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| Money money money.......where's the money!; Former Michael Jackson defender now claims sexual abuse | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 8 2013, 08:21 AM (316 Views) | |
| Tybee | May 8 2013, 08:21 AM Post #1 |
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So, he lied when he claimed Jackson was not an abuser of children? AFAIC, if he'll lie once, he'll lie twice.![]() Los Angeles (CNN) -- A dancer-choreographer filed a claim against Michael Jackson's estate related to alleged child sex abuse by the late pop icon. Wade Robson, now 30, denied in testimony at Jackson's child molestation trial in 2005 that he had been molested by the singer. The details of the allegation are sealed by the Los Angeles probate court where Robson's lawyer filed the claim last week, according to a court document obtained Tuesday by CNN. The deadline has long passed for creditors to file claims against Jackson's estate, but Robson is asking the probate court to allow him to file a late creditor's claim. The sealed documents include an affidavit from Dr. David Arrendondo, a San Francisco-based child psychiatrist, the filing said. Jackson was acquitted of child molestation charges in 2005, partly based on the testimony of Robson, his sister and his mother. "It's absurd," said Tom Mesereau, the lawyer who successfully defended Jackson in the trial. "He was one of the strongest witnesses for the defense at Michael Jackson's criminal trial in 2005. He was adamant under oath that he had never been molested at any time." A Neverland housekeeper testified that she saw Jackson showering naked with Robson during a visit in the early 1990s, but he denied it at the trial. "He withstood very aggressive cross-examination by the prosecutor," Mesereau told CNN Tuesday. "He stood his ground and never wavered in saying Michael Jackson had done absolutely nothing improper to him." The 2005 trial in Santa Barbara County, California, centered on charges that Jackson had molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor who often visited his ranch. He was also charged with plying the boy with alcohol, conspiring to abduct, extort and falsely imprison the child and his family. He was acquitted on all counts. "I've known Michael for a long time. I've spent many hours talking to him about everything. I trust him. I trust him with my children," Joy Robson, the mother of Wade Robson, testified when called as a prosecution witness. Robson said she let Wade, who was then 7, and daughter Chantal sleep in Jackson's bedroom from the first visit. A spokesman for the Jackson estate said the executors may issue a statement later. Mesereau said it was "suspicious timing" for the claim to be filed at the start of the trial of the Michael Jackson wrongful death case, in which Jackson's mother and children are suing concert promoter AEG Live. AEG Live lawyers have said they would bring up the child molestation charges against Jackson as part of their defense. http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/07/showbiz/michael-jackson-sex-claim/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Edited by Tybee, May 8 2013, 08:21 AM.
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 08:36 AM Post #2 |
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Fine, give him money. Then make him give it all to the kid he said was lying. |
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| Erna | May 8 2013, 09:31 AM Post #3 |
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Wade is a rather attractive homosexual. (Are there nude photos of Wade?) |
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 10:02 AM Post #4 |
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Why is it you can get money for sex but not other things? |
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| Tybee | May 8 2013, 10:05 AM Post #5 |
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IMO there should be a statute of limitations for sexual abuse lawsuits. Either file your claim within 12 months from the date you claim the abuse occurred or move on with life. |
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 10:09 AM Post #6 |
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^^^ Agreed. |
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 10:24 AM Post #7 |
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There are much longer statutes of limitation for walking on someone's lawn. 12 months is ridiculously short, especially given the emotional aftereffects of actual abuse. To say nothing of the fact that a minor cannot, as a mater of law, waive a right. |
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| Tybee | May 8 2013, 10:48 AM Post #8 |
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Yeah you're right. 12 months is too short, especially if it was a child that was abused. Upon rethinking maybe the system works the way it is, since I believe most fraudulent sexual abuse allegations end up failing anyway. |
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 10:53 AM Post #9 |
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It is, by its nature, very difficult to prove. But even if you don't get a conviction, you have ruined the reputation of the other person. That being said, I don' think you can ruin Michael Jackson's reputation enough. He was clearly a predator who preyed on young boys. |
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| Deleted User | May 8 2013, 11:05 AM Post #10 |
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I was an insurance adjuster for several years, and the way the SOL works on most injury claims for minors is 1 year from their 18th birthday, or two years from the injury if over 17. So they basically get until they're 19, which is fair. But that's for car accidents and other types of injury where the incident causing injury can be proven and medical records can be produced. In this case, who knows...plus he lied. I used to think Jackson was guilty, guilty, guilty, but every time one of these douchebags steps forward with $$$$$ in his eyes, it makes me wonder. |
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| Deleted User | May 8 2013, 11:07 AM Post #11 |
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SOL = statute of limitations |
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| Erna | May 8 2013, 11:58 AM Post #12 |
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Because the Puritan anglo/saxon culture, which is still totally predominant in America, teaches fear and hatred of nature and sexuality. |
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| Tybee | May 8 2013, 12:35 PM Post #13 |
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Personally, I think he probably did things a rational adult would not have done with at least some of those kids, but I don't believe he actually sexually molested any of them. I believe he did things that children do with each other because mentally and emotionally he was a child. As an adult he lived the childhood that was stolen from him by his father. He had access to hundreds (if not thousands) of children over the years. It doesn't seem feasible that he would only molest a tiny # of them. If he was a true pedo with access to that many kids I believe the number of abuse claims would be staggering. And considering how many children he had private access to the number of claims has been miniscule. |
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 12:44 PM Post #14 |
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The Vanity Fair piece sealed it for me. The kid he paid $25,000,000 to shut up. You don't pay that type of money if you are innocent. According to Vanity Fair, Jackson paid up when the kid identified his penis as being mottled like a pinto pony. The kid also told the police that when he was with Jackson in the South of France, Jackson would come into the bathroom nude and erect when the kid was in there. Then, Jackson masturbated him and licked the emission of his belly. This led to oral. Jackson paid the kid and the police suddenly had no witness. That doesn't, of course, mean that EVERY kid is telling the truth. But Jackson set himself up for the suspicion they are because of his actions. |
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| Erna | May 8 2013, 12:59 PM Post #15 |
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We also do not believe that Miss J 'molested' any children. A child - in the sane world outside the USA - is defined as someone who is not old enough to shoot, who does not yet have any hair 'down there'. Edited by Erna, May 9 2013, 03:04 AM.
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| Guest | May 8 2013, 10:48 PM Post #16 |
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MPC, I have newfound respect for you after that post. Nice to see someone remain rational and honest amid the sexual hysteria of the last couple of decades. I'll try to remember that next time you go off the deep end about the NWO. |
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| Guest | May 9 2013, 02:59 AM Post #17 |
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Right, and it seems what happens with most of these cases, especially when they're proffered up as gossip, is people weigh their own personal opinions which are based on hearsay (if even that) as more important than facts. So your opinion based on the fact that he gave an accuser a nearly $25 million payout, which was confirmed by court documents released over a decade ago, is considered less important than someone whose opinion is based entirely on speculation or their own personal belief system and/or agenda. Some of the comments on the LA Times and NY Daily News are flat-out insane. I don't know if Robson is lying. No one else knows, either. I feel the worst for the kids he testified against at that trial a few years ago. If he really was lying he needs to pay for that, because those kids may have been telling the truth all along but no one believed them. And he should have just 'fessed up about his lies and apologize instead of not even saying anything about it until he wants to sue. So I get the hate of the guy, I really do, but we just don't know enough to know if he is lying about the molestation OR if he was lying during the trial. |
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| Guest | May 9 2013, 06:27 AM Post #18 |
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I do agree with you about the hysteria part. Nevertheless, I find MPC's views creepy in this regard. And yours even more so, as there is less chance they are being served up as a part of a larger fiction. |
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| Erna | May 9 2013, 07:16 AM Post #19 |
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r18 = fish? |
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| Tybee | May 9 2013, 07:27 AM Post #20 |
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It's a shame the whole world can't read that little missive for the next time anyone deigns to have a personal opinion. We should all strive to be as perfect in our thoughts as you, and feel secure that when we have an opinion that doesn't agree with yours you will be there to tell us how wrong we are and set us all on a righteous path to correct thinking. |
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| Erna | May 9 2013, 07:38 AM Post #21 |
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We don't believe that MJ paid out $25 million for such b.s. ca-ca. What is the verificatia - a story in the Enquirer? |
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| Deleted User | May 9 2013, 07:54 AM Post #22 |
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Please tell me this is an attempt at irony. |
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| Guest | May 9 2013, 08:04 AM Post #23 |
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Don't hold you breathe on that. There is definitely someone on here who has a certain predilectia. |
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| Guest | May 9 2013, 06:06 PM Post #24 |
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what kind of crap are you giong on about now ? |
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| Guest | May 10 2013, 03:22 AM Post #25 |
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Nope, CNN based on the actual court documents.
That apparently totaled almost $25M in 1993, which is, I dunno, a quajillion dollars nowadays. |
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| Erna | May 10 2013, 03:38 AM Post #26 |
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A 13 year old is not a child. Most 13 year-olds today are already shooting twice daily and having active sex lives - and they are perfectly capable of saying NO if not interested. This case, if it even happened, was just a matter of a younger queer trying to rip off some easy big cash from a rich older queer. Only in the USA could such insanity - and ONLY when there are zillion$$$$$ to collect. Here in Europe something like this would be laughed right out of court, if it ever even got to court. Edited by Erna, May 10 2013, 05:05 AM.
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