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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 27 2013, 07:29 AM (484 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Jul 27 2013, 07:29 AM Post #1 |
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Veganism is agreeing with me. Not only are all of my digestive issues gone, but I am down to 163! I had been hovering around 180 for years until making this change, and though--at 6' tall-- I was never exactly "fat," I didn't feel good about myself. But now I have just 8 pounds until 155, which was my Skinny-Minnie high school weight. Woohoo! |
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| BenZ | Jul 27 2013, 08:30 AM Post #2 |
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Just get a stomach virus and you'll be there in no time! |
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| Tybee | Jul 27 2013, 08:33 AM Post #3 |
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Congrats on the achievement! I have an old friend who is perpetually on a diet (although I don't know why). He's 6'4" tall and weighs 230 lbs. and has a great build even for a man much younger (he's 60). But he thinks he's fat and is always trying to lose 15 lbs. yet never gets past 3-4 lbs. I have the opposite problem. I'd love to be able to gain a few lbs. But my metabolism and my picky eating habits won't allow it. The older I get the more weight I seem to drop. I was 130 when I graduated HS, and I'm 123 today. I'm a rake I tell ya, a rake!
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| Deleted User | Jul 27 2013, 09:28 AM Post #4 |
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My parents and both of my sisters are super overweight, and I've had to be vigilant, but have never been "fat." Though the weight I put on when I quit smoking was pushing me in that direction. Living in San Francisco and walking those hills all the time helped eliminate the problem, and here in Europe I walk everywhere. Tybee, people who complain about not being able to gain weight are usually targets for jealous rage. Be warned. :) |
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| Guest | Jul 27 2013, 11:41 AM Post #5 |
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Wow! If you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? |
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| LizBien | Jul 27 2013, 11:42 AM Post #6 |
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How tall a fellow are you Tybee? I'm just curious. Pollyanna- good for you for pulling off a vegan diet! If it agrees with you nicely then just keep on trucking with it. |
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| Guest | Jul 27 2013, 11:49 AM Post #7 |
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Someone started a thread on DL "Veganism = Eating Disorder". http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html#page:showThread,12999739,1 Someone opined that it is a form of fanaticism and no forms of fanaticism are ultimately healthy. I hadn't really thought of it that way before I read that. But, in any event, congratulations on losing the weight! That isn't an easy thing to do -- and I know you must feel much better for doing so. |
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| Tybee | Jul 27 2013, 12:39 PM Post #8 |
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I'm 5'6". Actually just a little shy of that, but I like to brag about how tall I am. :rofl |
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| Guest | Jul 27 2013, 12:40 PM Post #9 |
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So, in other words, you're actually a Tom Cruise 5'9" |
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| Tybee | Jul 27 2013, 03:00 PM Post #10 |
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Depends on how high a heel I wear that day. :rofl
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| Guest | Jul 27 2013, 03:22 PM Post #11 |
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I met a guy in LA last week who was 5'5", but pretty muscular (not because he was over-compensating, but because he had been a professional athlete -- NOT basketball!). He was incredibly handsome. |
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| Tybee | Jul 27 2013, 04:36 PM Post #12 |
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When I was a young buck in college you would have been surprised at the types of guys who went after me. It wasn't the little pocket gays like me. It was the big bruisers. And they didn't want to have their ways with me. They wanted me to have my way with them. I used to think they were afraid of getting with another guy their size. As tough as it was I never complained. I gave them exactly what they wanted. The unfortunate thing about being my size was that the girls wanted some of me too. They wanted me to "do 'em" so they could mother me afterwards. I was never amenable to that proposition. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 27 2013, 05:53 PM Post #13 |
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There are two problems with being vegan. #1) Anorexics tend to use the lifestyle to hide their eating disorders. Healthful vegans think of them the same way mainstream gays think of drag queens. We are embarrassed for them and constantly feel the need to remind people that we are "not all like that." #2) Many well-intentioned vegans either do not know enough about cooking or are too lazy to do it properly. Those are the ones who live on fake meat and fake cheese, eat too many processed carbs, and end up nutrient deficient and sickly. I am neither. At 6' tall, I am at a perfectly healthy 160#. Furthermore, I spent seven years in my 20s as a vegetarian, learned from a lot of mistakes I made, and taught myself everything I could about cooking before embarking on this endeavor (reading and watching everything Julia Child and James Beard ever produced, reading Mark Bittman's "How to Cook Everything," and constantly experimenting with countless types of foods, cuisines, and techniques). There are a million ways to get veganism wrong, but I am not one of those people. I don't buy fake meats or cheese (Daiya is fucking gross), and make a point of eating several types of grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, vegetables, and fruits every single day. Is it challenging? I guess it is at first. Is it more time consuming than cooking up a burger? Yes. But cooking is fun, and I'm starting to master it. And--if you can do vegan right--the rewards far outweigh the trouble. I used to have a lot of digestive issues: IBS and GERD. I was on Prilosec for years. Those issues are 100% gone. I sleep better, have more energy, have less muscle/joint pain, and have lost more than 20 pounds. I also feel better knowing I am eating a diet that is environmentally sustainable, doesn't involve cruelty to animals, lowers my risk of heart disease and cancer, and could lengthen my lifespan by up to a decade. We're not all sickly, anorexic freaks. |
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| Tybee | Jul 28 2013, 05:48 AM Post #14 |
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Sometimes people don't understand that some of the highest quality protein available for human consumption is from plant matter rather than meat or fish. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 06:46 AM Post #15 |
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Oh, and the link at R7 is full of idiots spewing misinformation and unnecessary hatred. My favorite is the poster claiming humans are designed to eat dairy, which is the exact opposite of the truth. It is true only if you're an infant sucking your mom's tit. After that, there is no use for milk. Especially from another species. Such ignorance. I hope they have fun with their heart disease and bowel cancer. |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 08:28 AM Post #16 |
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That's what the world needs -- less "unnecessary" hatred & more cruel hostility to strangers. |
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| Tybee | Jul 28 2013, 08:43 AM Post #17 |
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As my sainted grandmother would say: "Eles deveriam sofrer por seu ciúme" Translation: "They should suffer for their jealousy".
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| Erna | Jul 28 2013, 08:57 AM Post #18 |
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Mary OP must be a real fugly. We are glad! |
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| Tybee | Jul 28 2013, 09:52 AM Post #19 |
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Gird your loins Lady Campbell!
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 10:07 AM Post #20 |
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Yes, yes. 99% of the responses on that thread are openly hostile towards vegans in ways that far exceed a need to express a difference of opinion. But the second I slap a bitch back with nothing more than a fact (meat eaters are indeed far more likely to die early of heart disease and colon cancer), I'm the asshole. Can't say I'm surprised. That lack of reason is par for the course around here. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 10:10 AM Post #21 |
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Ooh, the insult of an 8th grade mean girl coming from an elderly, diseased whore. Shall I ever recover from such a witty attack? |
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| Erna | Jul 28 2013, 11:30 AM Post #22 |
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Now that Miss PP has confirmed that she is not hot, we feel much better! |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 12:39 PM Post #23 |
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"Not hot" from a group of internet wackos who I've seen call people like Brad Pitt and Jon Hamm ugly is hardly an insult. |
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| Erna | Jul 28 2013, 01:14 PM Post #24 |
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We never called Miss Pitt or Miss Hamm ugly, au contraire - we have praised them as drop-dead-gorgeous homosexuals! |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 02:23 PM Post #25 |
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Count me as one who also thinks Brad Pitt and John Hamm are handsome. And since producing/drinking milk is one of the things that distinguishes mammals, I think it is silly to claim that man wasn't designed to drink milk. I don't care for the stuff so I abstain, but I did drink it as a child with absolutely no problems. I suspect that many of the "intolerances" people now claim to various foods has more to do with fadish cachet than a medical condition. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 02:40 PM Post #26 |
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1) Dairy has only been a part of the human diet for about 9000 years, which is technically not that long. 2) Milk is meant to nurse babies, not feed adults of other species. 3) Humans are the only species that drinks the milk of another species. 4) 40% of humans are lactose intolerant. The only reason the percentage is even that low is due to white people of European descent (who have been consuming dairy the longest) bringing down the average. People of African descent are about 75% intolerant, and Asians are around 90%. The human body was absolutely not designed for it. 5) Dairy is full of saturated fat, bad cholesterol, casein (a known carcinogen), and--unless you're buying it organic--it is loaded with antibiotics and hormones that cause early onset menses in little girls and breast cancer in adult women. We can argue about eating flesh all day long, and you might be able to make fair points against me. But dairy is not good for you. In any way. End of story. You're just addicted to consuming it, and are making excuses. |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 03:10 PM Post #27 |
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what must the health nuts be thinking when they are laying in the hospital, dieing of nothing. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 03:41 PM Post #28 |
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Here's what I'm thinking: 1) You're parroting an internet meme I've already seen repeated dozens of times on Twitter and Facebook. Way to be original. 2) We're all going to die. Veganism isn't about cheating death. It's about improving your quality of life and eating food that is environmentally sustainable. But yes, on average we will outlive omnivores by 6-9 years. 3) Your barely literate way of writing makes me wonder why I'm bothering to respond to you. Seriously. Learn some basic spelling and grammar. |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 05:21 PM Post #29 |
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Please stop jumping to conclusions. I have no digestive issues with dairy. Nevertheless, I hardly ever eat it because daily products seem like "bad" calories to me. And I'm trying to eat more fruits and vegetables (along with meat) and cut out bread and dairy. I don't even miss it, so I am hardly addicted to it. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 05:25 PM Post #30 |
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What in the hell is wrong with some of you people, thinking I am addressing you personally? It's pathological. That post was not referencing anyone in particular, and "you" can be used both in the singular and the plural. Exhale. Unclutch. |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 05:34 PM Post #31 |
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I wrote about dairy. You responded (the very next post) by disagreeing with my remark. And now you're taking me to task for thinking you were responding to me because you responded to me? I think you need to treat yourself to a lovely, adult beverage. |
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| Tybee | Jul 28 2013, 05:45 PM Post #32 |
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Thanks for reminding me. The gimlet hour approacheth!
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 06:02 PM Post #33 |
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I'm confused. You clearly know how the quote function on here works, and a simple review of this thread (and all others), would show that I use the quote function when I am responding to someone directly. Yet you continue to think I was speaking to you and you alone. I wasn't. Your post raised my attention because it reflects what many people feel about dairy. Not just you. So I crafted my response to address the general attitude of "there is nothing wrong with dairy." If I'd meant to respond to you directly, I would have quoted you. It is no matter, though. You will believe what you choose. |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 06:12 PM Post #34 |
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As a pithy cashier at Church's Fried Chicken once told a snippy customer who assumed her preferences and habits should be known: "Bitch, I don't know your life." |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 06:15 PM Post #35 |
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The customer was a rather large woman who ordered 35 biscuits and the equivalent of several chicken. Cashier [without looking up]: "Is that to-go or will you be eating it here?" Customer: "You think I'm going to sit here and eat that much fucking food?" Cashier: "Bitch, I don't know you life." |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 06:18 PM Post #36 |
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Yes, I can see how one would find that profound. |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 06:20 PM Post #37 |
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It's funny; not profound. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 06:23 PM Post #38 |
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pithy |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 06:25 PM Post #39 |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 06:25 PM Post #40 |
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You called the cashier "pithy," dear. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 06:28 PM Post #41 |
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Anyway, I made a Lebanese lentil dish for a dinner party last night. It was vegan, and our guests raved about it. You should try my baba ghannouj! |
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| Guest | Jul 28 2013, 06:37 PM Post #42 |
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And I was being sarcastic. But I don't understand this arguing for the sake of arguing thing. So you win. Can we drop it now? |
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| Deleted User | Jul 28 2013, 07:13 PM Post #43 |
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And I was being sarcastic when I joked that the quote was profound. But you had to goad me further. Jesus fucking Christ. If you don't like arguing for the sake of arguing, then don't fucking do it. I'd love to drop it. But can you resist saying something else catty? |
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