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| Topic Started: Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:07 (497 Views) | ||
| Bisho no Teresa | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:07 Post #1 | |
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Over on another forum, I had an interesting convo in the shoutbox after I gave them my date of birth to see what star sign I was.So is anime for older people now? Edited by Bisho no Teresa, Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:08.
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| Itsuki predator | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:11 Post #2 | |
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my opinion is that anime and manga are for all peoples, it does not depend skin color or age 
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| Bisho no Teresa | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:12 Post #3 | |
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I mean the average age of the fandom, silly. 
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| Itsuki predator | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:16 Post #4 | |
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well in that case you can be retired and still full love to anime and manga..or you can be 5 year old watching pokémon and digimon and lost your heart to anime forever that what happened to me XD Edited by Itsuki predator, Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:16.
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| ellybean24 | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:37 Post #5 | |
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well, you can't say it is and you can't say it isn't my answer to your question is "it depends" there are anime made for older people and anime best suited to younger people anime that contains things such as nudity and/or porn, heavy violence and gore, would be best suited to older people in general anime that is cute and funny, contains VERY easily understandable plots/story lines are really meant for younger people (but older people can enjoy them for laughs i guess) for eg: I cannot expect my 8 year old sister to watch Naruto and understand it, because of the MANY in depth stories behind other strories ect. she would probably annoy me with "what's that?" "why'd he do that?" "how can he do that?" ect. |
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| Itsuki predator | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:40 Post #6 | |
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yes you are right on that there is anime for old and young peoples...still I think that Naruto is bad parable |
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| ellybean24 | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:54 Post #7 | |
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I think Naruto is a good parable due to it's complexity if you do not watch from the very begining, you miss out some valuble info on the rest of the story, each anime character has an in depth history, and so do their abilities ect. ect. ect. I'm not saying all 8yr olds are like that,, my sister just wouldn't get it, she'd even get confused with the chakra system in their body  though thats easy enough to understand once they explained it in some episodes
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| Bisho no Teresa | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:55 Post #8 | |
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I'm taking about who watches anime outside Japan, not who its meant for. | |
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| ellybean24 | Sunday, 17. June 2012, 23:58 Post #9 | |
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well you asked ,, "is anime for older people now" in other words is it for could be meant for... juuust saying so you never stated about who watches outside of Japan, so I answerd your question as best I could my answer does however relate to outside Japan |
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| Itsuki predator | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:01 Post #10 | |
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in that case children's can watch it too if they watch it all but I would say that Violence Jack is more adult stuff...if you think that you sow blood in elfen lied that was nothing side of Violence jack that is slaughter and hard gore violence...nothing like children's could watch it is traumatic if your mind is not ready to watch that kind of stuff |
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| ellybean24 | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:15 Post #11 | |
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I know elfenlied is light compared to most things even Higurashi no naku koro ni is waaaaaay worse than elfenlied ..................... I was just using Naruto as an example, because of its complexity and the fact younger kids would more likely watch Pokemon and Bakugan instead I never said they couldn't watch it, I said it's less likely than most because kids will get bored at the long cut scenes and explainations and boohoo drama ect. they'd get bored of the long conversations and speachess ect. again, it was just an example |
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| Itsuki predator | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:21 Post #12 | |
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yes you are right...and you might be right about that pokémon, bakugan thing. when I was kid I used to watch those child animes every Saturday morning XD I have watched bedaman, paiplaid, duel monsters and much more also I still like to watch those child animes...last summer I watched 1 season from digimon and this summer I have already watched alfred j kwak and now I'm watcing Moomin's XD I have to say I love moomin's XD they are so lovely |
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| ellybean24 | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:31 Post #13 | |
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why does moomin ring a bell?? I swear I know it from somewhere
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| Itsuki predator | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:34 Post #14 | |
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moomin's XD
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| ellybean24 | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:36 Post #15 | |
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I REMEMBER THEM it was so long ago though 
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| Itsuki predator | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:39 Post #16 | |
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you can watch them from youtube with English dub |
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| ellybean24 | Monday, 18. June 2012, 00:47 Post #17 | |
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I probably will |
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| feral | Monday, 18. June 2012, 01:06 Post #18 | |
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It's like this; if you like it then f@ck everyone else. Period. I read a story in an anime magazine before it went under and it told a story about a grandmother that was into Naruto. The lady wrote in to their column and told of how she started liking Naruto because her grandson liked Naruto. Her grandson died of some terrible disease (lukemia I think, but not sure), so she continues to watch Naruto because it gives her fond memories of her grandson. If people have something negative to say about that, then they can kiss my ass right along with hers.
Elly, I understand the point you were trying to make and I do agree with you 100%. But, I also think Naruto is a bad example. I mean, it was designed for 12 year olds, how difficult and in depth can the plot really be. Now, I personally like Naruto (well, I did in the beginning, now it just needs to hurry up and end, but that's another conversation altogether) and I can tell you personally, that Naruto does NOT have a complicated plot in the least. People might get a little confused because there are so many smaller storylines happening within the "world" of Naruto, but they are not complicated in the slightest. In fact, the most "complicated" and convoluted storyline has got to be Itachi and Sasuke. But even that can be summed up quite nicely by saying that Sasuke was angry with his brother, then got angry with the village when he found out the truth. Now Sasuke wants to get revenge. The end.
Just wanted to point out that the whole chakra thing comes from Buddhism, Jainism, Hinduism, and possibly other religions. They are taught to, and understood by, many small children all over the world. Most notably India and China of course. Edited by feral, Monday, 18. June 2012, 01:07.
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| lehnerus2000 | Monday, 18. June 2012, 04:24 Post #19 | |
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I think that ellybean24 meant that the plot spans multiple episodes (maybe hundreds in Naruto and Bleach). That's why most TV Sci-Fi fails, because it seems that most people (especially in the US) can't remember what happened more than 30 minutes ago! Any idea has to be wrapped up with 1 hour (2 hours in special circumstances). "Babylon 5" and "DS9" are two exceptions to "The Rule" (i.e. they had long running overarching plots). The weird thing is that "Soap Operas" have plots that span hundreds of episodes. Maybe the fact that they repeat the same plot, over and over again, means that people can follow what is supposed to be happening. |
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| feral | Monday, 18. June 2012, 04:31 Post #20 | |
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Goddammit Lehnerus2000!!!!! I am an American and I liked Babylon 5 and I fucking resent that you are trying to say that Amerians are stoopid. I mean stewpid. I mean stupid! Fuck you dude!!!! |
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| lehnerus2000 | Monday, 18. June 2012, 09:44 Post #21 | |
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It's not only Americans. It seems to be a spreading disease in the Western World. My country is overrun with people who were born without brains.  Short attention span doesn't necessarily mean stupid. Wait ... what were we talking about? Seriously I mentioned the US, because you guys are the only ones with enough money (well you used to be) to (potentially) make decent Sci-Fi. Even the new Dr Who series has gone to single episode ideas. Anyway back to the subject at hand, I was drawn to anime because it had more complicated and bizarre plots, than almost every other show (Australian and/or US). It's a similar situation with movies. Japanese and European movies are usually more interesting, than Australian and US movies. Edited by lehnerus2000, Monday, 18. June 2012, 09:50.
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| Itsuki predator | Monday, 18. June 2012, 10:20 Post #22 | |
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have fun with them XD |
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| feral | Tuesday, 19. June 2012, 09:29 Post #23 | |
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Ah, now that I'm not drunk (or drinking) I see that you make some very interesting comments here. Let me respond. Hm, I don't know. I think there were other shows in the past (like '60s or '70s) that had plots that span multiple episodes. I can't think of any Sci-Fi shows off hand, but I would be surprised if there none at all.
I think most TV Sci-Fi fails because the vast majority of people (in any country, not just the US and Australia) simply do not like Sci-Fi and Fantasy as a genre. In the US, men will go see a Sci-Fi or Fantasy "movie" like The Lord of the Ring series, but they would not be caught dead watching the TV series Firefly. It's just simply not "cool" to be into anything that's not firmly grounded in reality. Those guys only go to see those movies because the movies offer a big-time budget and it's something that they can take a girl to. Now having said that, I know lots of guys personally who still would never go see the Transformers movies because they think it's for nerds and dorks. But those same guys will watch the heck out of a 3 hour American football game without even going to the bathroom. How do you explain that? I'll tell you how, most people (men and women) simply don't like scifi/fantasy stuff. Look at the ratings and they will tell you the true story of how reality shows like "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" does big numbers, but the TV scifi series "Sanctuary" barely stayed afloat for 3 seasons before it got cancelled.
Ok, let me sum it all up with this, the TV series (all of them) that were based on Dame Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot private detective novels were all episodic (each episode has a self contained story) and they ran for years (since the '60s at least). Not to mention all of the Sherlock Holmes TV series. And these 2 series were wildly successful! Back in the '50s and '60s! My point is that pointing at the US today in 2012 and saying we can't keep up with a plot so therefore all TV SciFi fails is simply unfair if not outright ridiculous. Episodic TV series have been a mainstay in western culture for more than 40 years. When you look at the TV industry as a business (which you should, because it is) you have to do something that "works" financially. Leaning on the proven formula of episodic TV as a whole is just good business practice. It's ok to try to be innovative, but if it's not working then you have to move on. And lastly, you have to be sure that our short attention spans are the real reason for the cancellation of TV shows. I'm telling you, they are not. Poor ratings are why shows get cancelled, not poor attention spans. Especially when there are shows that were wildly successful and made literally millions of dollars like "24", "The Sopranos", and "Entourage." Those shows all had overarching plots but the difference is that they are not SciFi or Fantasy. Edited by feral, Tuesday, 19. June 2012, 09:34.
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| spit | Tuesday, 19. June 2012, 10:43 Post #24 | |
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just compare anime and western series - i dont know why there is such a difference, but it is there | |
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| lehnerus2000 | Tuesday, 19. June 2012, 15:35 Post #25 | |
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Indeed there were. "The Invaders" for example. "Dr Who" used to do story arcs of 4 - 6 episodes (during the 70s and 80s). "Blake's Seven" was another.
Most of the top 50 biggest grossing movies (World-wide) are Sci-Fi or Fantasy. Box Office Mojo Someone must be going to see them (maybe even women).  The reality is that pap shows, like "Keeping Up With the Kardashians", don't require any brain power to watch. IMO, "Sanctuary" is a bad example, because I'm surprised it ran for that many seasons (I found it boring). I watched the first 2 seasons, because it's "my duty" to try and support any Sci-Fi shows that are shown. Bad, boring or unpopular shows will get cancelled. How many cop shows have been made? How many of those are still running?
Simple answer; brand recognition. Lots of people would have read "Sherlock Holmes" and Agatha Christie stories. What options did people have for entertainment in the 50s and 60s? There was no Internet, gaming consoles or iPods. They had books, radio and TV. They didn't even have movie megaplexes like we do (24/7). I watch Sherlock Holmes shows, because I read the books. The trouble with Sci-Fi and Fantasy shows is that the early episodes are generally introductory (i.e. introducing the setting and characters). I almost stopped watching "Babylon 5", because the first 6 or 7 episodes were so generic. The "Death Walker" episode made me change my mind. The modern "Star Trek" shows were set in an established universe (with an established fan base). They didn't need to do any setting up. which meant that they could skip those type of episodes (not that TNG skipped them).
Just look at all of the Hollywood remakes of classic movies. The original plots are normally discarded in favour of explosions, gunfights and car chases (e.g. Rollerball).
Do I have to be sure? Poor ratings CAN be related to poor attention spans. At no time did I claim that, that was the only reason!
I counter those with the New Star Trek shows (TNG, DS9, Voyager) and Stargate (SG1 and Atlantis). The reality is that crime (e.g. "CSI", "NCIS", etc.) and medical shows require no set-up, it's straight into the action. Who gets murdered this week? You don't need to know anything about the previous episodes to watch them (it would help in the cases of "24" and "The Sopranos"). Compare those shows to something like Steins;Gate. Every episode had clues or vital information. If you missed some episodes, you would rapidly become confused ("24" would also be in this category). Edited by lehnerus2000, Tuesday, 19. June 2012, 17:25.
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