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| 21 grams; does the human soul actually have mass? | |
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| Topic Started: Saturday, 28. July 2012, 16:48 (106 Views) | |
| SkeleBones | Saturday, 28. July 2012, 16:48 Post #1 |
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Doctor Duncan McDougal M.D. was an early 20th century physician in Haverhill, Massachusetts who sought to measure the mass purportedly lost by a human body when the soul supposedly departed the body upon death. In 1901, MacDougall weighed six patients while they were in the process of dying from tuberculosis in an old age home. It was relatively easy to determine when death was only a few hours away, and at this point the entire bed was placed on an industrial sized scale which was apparently sensitive to the gram. He took his results (a varying amount of perceived mass loss in most of the six cases) to support his hypothesis that the soul had mass, and when the soul departed the body, so did this mass. The determination of the soul weighing 21 grams was based on the average loss of mass in the six patients within moments after death. Experiments on mice and other animals took place. Most notably the weighing upon death of sheep seemed to create mass for a few minutes which later disappeared. The hypothesis was made that a soul portal formed upon death which then whisked the soul away. MacDougall also measured fifteen dogs in similar circumstances and reported the results as "uniformly negative," with no perceived change in mass. He took these results as confirmation that the soul had weight, and that dogs did not have souls. MacDougall's complaints about not being able to find dogs dying of the natural causes that would have been ideal have led at least one author to conjecture that he was in fact poisoning dogs to conduct these experiments. In March 1907, accounts of MacDougall's experiments were published in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research and the medical journal American Medicine, while the news was spread to the general public by New York Times. His results have never been reproduced, and are generally regarded either as meaningless or considered to have had little if any scientific merit. Nonetheless, MacDougall's finding that the human soul weighed 21 grams has become a meme in the public consciousness, mostly due to its claiming the titular thesis in the 2003 film 21 Grams. Edited by SkeleBones, Saturday, 28. July 2012, 16:52.
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| Bisho no Teresa | Saturday, 28. July 2012, 21:13 Post #2 |
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Why would mice, sheep and humans have souls, but not dogs? |
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| SkeleBones | Saturday, 28. July 2012, 21:22 Post #3 |
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no it said he performed it on the mice and sheep and dogs but only the sheep showed any measurable difference must have sumthing to do with the christian bibles thing about the lamb that was slain or wuddever |
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| Bisho no Teresa | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 01:11 Post #4 |
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So people who eat sheep are murderers? 
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| carmelianwasirewo | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 08:56 Post #5 |
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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According to Hume it would be in order to commit doctor Duncan to the flames: as he contains nothing but sophistry and illusion. I quite agree 
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| SkeleBones | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 17:15 Post #6 |
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who the hell is duncan? |
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| carmelianwasirewo | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 19:08 Post #7 |
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Doctor Duncan McDougal M.D. was an early 20th century physician in Haverhill, Massachusetts who sought to measure the mass purportedly lost by a human body when the soul supposedly departed the body upon death. I copy/pasted your own your text.. 
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| Bisho no Teresa | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 20:00 Post #8 |
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You're very intellectual today, Camel Boy.
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| carmelianwasirewo | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 21:15 Post #9 |
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Why would today differ from other days Bisho? Whenever I read the word 'soul' it automatically makes me cringe 
Edited by carmelianwasirewo, Sunday, 29. July 2012, 21:16.
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| SkeleBones | Monday, 30. July 2012, 16:49 Post #10 |
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| gherkin | Monday, 30. July 2012, 20:15 Post #11 |
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A live wire weighs more than an un-electrified wire. Several of the gasses of decomposition, for instance n2 are buoyant at sea level. The weight thing is an old & tired theologian argument, that never had any credibility to begin with. Like most of them. |
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| SkeleBones | Monday, 30. July 2012, 21:42 Post #12 |
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but this man recently died on the scales gherk no time for decomp |
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