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Tori Amos and Madonna
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Topic Started: Apr 7 2015, 09:43 AM (445 Views)
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Apr 7 2015, 09:43 AM
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Super Amanda said this in the Internet thread:- Madonna is as sensual as dried vomit on a shag rug . She isn't sexual or sensual just raunchy, explicit and trashy. I hope this is the last magazine cover she payola buys for awhile. That much photoshopped is on par with a solar eclipse.
This reminded me of a quote by a celebrity I read back in the mid or late 1990s.
I tried to google it to see if I could find the quote and who said it, and I did.
Tori Amos on Madonna's Sex book and public persona (Source): - QUOTES >>
I [the interviewer's question]: When you take the difference to popular music, you and Madonna are both raisin girls, whereas you both have not much in common. I mean, I would imagine your coffee table book about sex would be more original and subtle than hers...
T [Tori Amos' response]: (laughs) You know what I thought of that book? Madonna never seemed to enjoy herself much on any page of that book. Good sex would give you a big happy smile on the face, wouldn't you think? But it was all so serious with her, so cold, so calculated.
Okay, there were some daring pictures in it, when you define daring as something with handcuffs and pierced nipples...(laughs).
But I think daring would be: photo's on which you would see lust or enjoyment, on which you can read from someone's face a just-had-an-orgasm-and-already-craving-for-the-next-one expression. Madonna doesn't understand the dripping mango concept.
I: The what? T: The dripping mango concept. (She takes an orange - a mango can't be found easily - and bites in it repeatedly, until the juice drips over her chin and throat.) Madonna is like the shadow side of the Virgin Maria, and as such I appreciate her.
Christian bred girls still get that totally a-sexual picture of Maria. Okay, Maria had a child with Joseph, but it's never mentioned that she enjoyed the deed, or if she had pleasure from whatever form of sex. No dripping mango's in the bible. (laughs)
The importance of Madonna is that she used her energy to sexualize it, that she showed her fans they could also see themselves like that - like sexual beings.
I only fear that Madonna has gotten so addicted to the commotion she caused in the outside world, that she has been scandalized her inner self, and has no more pleasure out of it anymore. Only pride and power and a sort of sense of superiority, but no pleasure.
She should eat more mango's...Gee, now I want one myself...
-- Tori; Nieuwe Revu, Feb 1994 Some of Amos' other quotes, as recorded on that page, seem favorable, but that one was critical.
Here is another quote by Amos (first the interviewer's question): - I: In America people are talking about the "Alpha Male"; the prototype of the superman which all men like to compare themselves to. Who is the Alpha Male in pop music and why didn't you recapture any of his songs for the women?
T: K.D. Lang. Is that a correct answer? (laughs)
Where is the Alpha Female by the way? That's Madonna of course.
It's predictable, and I'm not really a fan, but she's a hunter, a mother, a carreer-woman, a leader, an anarchist, a marketing project and mouthpiece at the time. If only because she exists as a counterbalance against all those Alpha Males.
We should pay honour to her as female artists.
-- Tori; Samsonic Magazine, Sep/Oct 2001
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Julia Griggs
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Apr 7 2015, 04:41 PM
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To be fair, Tori was also very full of herself back in the day. And now she's just as washed up as Vadge is.
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Apr 10 2015, 01:32 PM
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Yeah you don't hear much from Tori these days.
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Apr 24 2015, 06:34 PM
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From the Cornflake Girl to the Material Girl: Tori Amos, 51, sticks up for Madonna, 56, as she discusses ageism in the music industry - By GEORGE STARK FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 23:30 EST, 23 April 2015 | UPDATED: 04:30 EST, 24 April 2015
There is no question that Madonna has taken a savage beating from critics this year, over her social media gaffes and questionable antics on stage.
But thankfully, it seems that the original Material Girl has now been given some much-needed support and encouragement from the original Cornflake Girl, Tori Amos.
Blissfully unaware of the taunting trolls of Twitter, Tori, 51, asked in a recent interview with The Guardian if there had been any 'meanness' about Madonna, 56, after she fell at the Brit Awards in February.
After being told that there had, Tori defended the singer, saying: 'Madonna is an entertainer. There are very few people who could've gotten up off that floor.'
'It wasn't because of her that she fell, but it was because of her that the performance carried on. Some of the vilification comes from women as much as men,' she continued.
'She's making choices and she's able to do things physically that a lot of people 25 years younger can't; she got up and refused to allow that to shame her.'
She added: 'I think people want her to be shamed into a role that they find acceptable for her age. It makes me sad that we can't embrace Madonna and say, Wow, this is an artist who’s expressing herself in a certain way.
Tori later added: 'You don’t have to agree with Madonna's outfit choices or how she sees her own sexuality but we can admire that she’s out there doing it.'
Elsewhere in the interview, Tori expanded on her thoughts about ageism in the music industry.
She mused: 'Noel Gallagher, Paul Weller, the Chili Peppers – they aren't far from me in age, but these guys are still putting out work that’s considered relevant, but there’s an attitude that the women have had their day, so they should give room to the younger ones. But that doesn't apply to men.
Tori isn't the first female artist to jump to Madonna's defence.
Earlier this month Madonna thanked fellow pop star Rita Ora for speaking out following the global backlash the music icon received for her on-stage kiss with rapper Drake at Coachella - which appeared to leave him repulsed.
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Apr 24 2015, 08:29 PM
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Oh Tori...zzzzzzzzzzzz Madonna shamed a RAPE VICTIM and you are a obsequious tool! I saw this and would add it to the "prepare yourself " via the lame fake feminists in the UK. They just HAD to bring up MDOAdonna....
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Apr 24 2015, 08:32 PM
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Mandonna's outfit choices and her classless and zero sensuality via the in your face, creepy expression of her "sexuality" IS all she's out there doing though. That's why Madonna stinks and is doing nothing discernible or important culturally to fight ageism.
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Apr 24 2015, 09:02 PM
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Tori's just another ageist whiner. She can go cry in her wine.
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Apr 25 2015, 05:37 PM
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- Apr 24 2015, 09:02 PM
Tori's just another ageist whiner. She can go cry in her wine.
Lol
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