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| flea dip | Jan 24 2016, 08:57 AM Post #1 |
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A long time ago, Madonna visited the anti-Madonna discussion board. This is when it was on a different host, not Zeta Boards. At that time, my anti-Madonna board /site were one of the few anti-Madonna destinations on the web (other than the anti-Madonna page by MadonnaSux, who used to post here). I could tell Madonna was visiting this board (I mean, the old one) or read stuff from it (maybe she gets her staff to print up the posts so that she can read them later, who knows), because when the board was fairly new, she would quote a few things from this forum verbatim days after in interviews. I have no idea if, since then, she visits (someone was asking me a few months ago about this). I was reading some Rebel Heart tour review the other day. Something in that review got me to wondering if she still visits this board, because I had mentioned a couple months ago two or three times that I think she should just stand on stage and sing - ditch the back up dancers and big video screens. In one of her shows a day or two ago, the review, or someone who left a comment under the review, said she stopped and asked the crowd if they think she should get rid of the back up dancers, video screens, etc and just sit on a stool and sing. Here it is (most of the comments on this page were trying to defend Madonna over her tardiness):
I personally do not get why anyone wants to spend big bucks to see more of a circus on stage - see people dangling on poles, video interludes, etc., for a music tour. I would think if you went to see someone known mostly for singing, you'd want to dispense with the antics and just sit their ass down and sing. I'm not really seeing the appeal in wanting to go to a show to see a zoo on stage, all the big screens and stuff. She's also been putting on the big gee whiz flash and fireworks type shows for over a decade now. I think sitting on a stool and singing minus all the frou frou would be more revolutionary. |
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| Marilynrules62 | Jan 24 2016, 10:01 PM Post #2 |
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I believe that stage shows/larger than life bravado is what Madonna does best. If I were her manager I would tell her to stick with it. Perhaps add some ballads, like 25% of her show should be a ballad on her next tour. 100% of it? That's going too far. Strange, but sometimes 'original' and 'different' aren't necessarily good, LOL. Even 50% all ballad is too much for a Madonna tour. |
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| oceanlover998 | Jan 25 2016, 05:03 PM Post #3 |
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...although most people (ok everyone but me...) on this board are probably too young to remember, Diana Ross started doing the big-budget, early laser-light spectacular concert spectacles back in the 1970s... ...by 1979, however, she ditched the high cost production frou-frou for a stripped down, bare-bones format that featured her singing in a spotlight with backing band and just a few back-up singers... ...this proved to be a successful and profitable touring model for Miss Ross until current day despite numerous tell-all books that turned off a good chunk of her fans and general public... ...although much like m Diana Ross was accused of minimal talent and overweening ambition early in her career, Diana developed into a truly capable live performer who could more than hold a tune in a stripped down stage setting... ...madonna just hasn't proven herself as a live singer who can deliver in a minimal stage setting without backing vocal tracks...perhaps if she applied herself like she did for Evita...maybe...I wouldn't hold my breath, though... ...but it's kind of a scary thought that our various contributions to the site over the years might be giving her ideas for career longevity...shudder... Edited by oceanlover998, Jan 25 2016, 10:39 PM.
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| Realist84 | Jan 25 2016, 09:28 PM Post #4 |
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The dancers and the stage is what makes Madonna Madonna... why would she just sit on a stool and sing? That's not how she made her career. |
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| flea dip | Jan 25 2016, 10:11 PM Post #5 |
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For one thing, that's precisely why she needs to stop. It's all she's been doing for years. It's boring. She also built her career in part on "reinventing" herself, and it's not much of a reinvention if every tour has the same stuff - huge video screens, lots of dancing, back up dancers. Maybe if she didn't have the 50 billion video screens and dancers she could get her butt on stage on time, as well. |
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| Julia Griggs | Jan 26 2016, 10:49 AM Post #6 |
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She's insecure & she makes it look like it's other people's fault. The only reinvention she's done here is dialing up her temper tantrums & personal drama. |
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| Mandonna | Jan 26 2016, 12:23 PM Post #7 |
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No, Madonna, we don't want you to just sit on a stool and sing. But stop this aimless hopping and bouncing and showing off you flexes and hide your age behind the dancers doing all the work. Nobody wants to see you backflip. Everybody wants to see you move and hear you sing. But if there needs to be dancing. There is a video from back in the days, where she was able to do a half-toe pirouette in a very beautiful way. Also that Who's That Girl tour has dancing scenes which are fitting, not over the top and did not look too much like 'I spent 3 hrs at the gym daily, for I don't want to be the fat b* I cannot tolerate'. There were backing singers, a video board, and while I know that technology has moved on since the 1988, there are lots and lots of artists, who can do it with two backing singers and some hot arse moves. I know there is such a thing as scene show and dramatics. But a good show is not just show. I'm tired of acts doing a TV-show in a stadium. No, rock that mic and give it to us, and then we will want to marry you. Also, we wished that 'No fat b*s in my vicinity' was a thing fired off in jest. We would like to have heard that you had said 'Oh I hate those hydrangeas, but you could not know, but sorry. I'm a rose girl' (Unless that incident was a stab in the front, meaning the person knew very well, that she hates those flowers, and gave them to her anyway.) I mean, there are so many ways to do this much more elegant. And then, we could use some real tongue in cheek, and not all this wooh, sexism/ageism. It really does come off false. No, you do not look like Justin Bieber's girlfriend, and nobody needs you to. These blown-up cheeks are even less attractive as the hollow cheeks of a a-little-more-than-middle-aged, very trained would be. Noone cares for your hands. You still have spectacular legs. Seriously, if I'd show at work in a bunny suit, pony tails and a lollipop, people would think I'm an extra at a children's show. It is not giving in to sexist misogynist sh**, if one thinks 'Hell I'm way 50+, maybe I should give this outfit to Miley Cyrus'. There is plenty of scorching hot stuff for 50+ to wear on stage and out. Also, The Awesome Ms Baddie Winkle, for a reference to how really be tongue in cheek about ageing as a woman. And oh. Please write better songs. You know, the type of songs that don't die, if they are sung by the performing artist sitting on a stool. TL;DR: There is too much Madonna's shadow demons, and too little Madonna. Stool or not
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| Julia Griggs | Jan 26 2016, 01:35 PM Post #8 |
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The Roaring Twenties & Catholic stuff stopped being provocative years ago. They're worse than cliché. |
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| flea dip | Jan 26 2016, 02:45 PM Post #9 |
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Yes, one thing I wanted to say before but didn't think of until now (in this thread, though I've pointed this out in years past) is that a lot of her stage shows (and some videos) rely on sexualizing imagery of nuns, Christ, or other Christian persons or symbols. Her current tour has topless women dressed in nun habits or something. There is nothing ground-breaking about her desecrating Catholic / Christian motiffs. She doesn't get condemned as much now for this stuff as she did in the 80s or early 90s. Even that one very outspoken talking head who represents some kind of Roman Catholic organization (similar to Islam's CAIR in purpose, in that the RC org would speak out against those who would say derogatory things about Catholicism) doesn't hardly ever speak out against her anymore. I forget his name. Used to be every time she opened her mouth, went on tour, or made a new album or video (with Jesus Christ or Catholic themes in it), you could count on that guy to fire back on TV news spots or in editorials saying how disrespectful her RC tinged antics were. Now you hardly hear a peep out of him. I think one of the last editorials by him I remember seeing from several years ago, he even said her anti-RC stuff had grown very stale, and he was tired of discussing it. He said she was a one trick pony (I think he's right). |
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