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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 22 2005, 05:09 PM (2,047 Views) | |
| The 1 Not Fooled | Jun 22 2005, 05:09 PM Post #1 |
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edit by Flea: Just wanted to say that some of the critical essays I see written now are by people who say they are Madonna fans or USED TO BE Madonna fans, but now they find her desperate, tacky, or awful. Depending on the main point of their criticism, you can find their essays in the "Old Lady" thread, or "Has Been" thread (Has Been Thread), Desperate to Remain Raunchy thread, or "Fans Angry At Madonna" fan. ---------------------------- It's not for the right reasons, but heh, this is good for a chuckle (large image; click to read) At Least She Asked Hard Questions |
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| SkylerKnows | Jun 22 2005, 07:58 PM Post #2 |
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Haha look at Madonna mentioning that when she started studying kaballah, there were no celebrities....you can feel the sense of 'i started first-i am a trend setter' tone. Also, how dare she talks about where the money goes in the Catholic church. How about the kaballah centers...where does that money go? To spirituality for kids??? please! The Catholic church is the largest non-profit aid organization in the world that mostly helps the poor, the war-thorn, sending missionaries to spread the word of God for hundreds of years (I wouldn't say that there has not been injustices in the way) but how come this kaballah is not in any textbook or has any record of helping the poor, the oppressed?...and she questions where the money goes??? The b***h!. If she wants proof in order to believe then so be it. But know that for a lot of people, believing in what they cannot see or understand is enough, and that's called FAITH . Stupid MADONNA!!! |
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| MissThang | Jun 23 2005, 12:11 AM Post #3 |
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LOL!!! That is really sad. I can just imagine her saying "Oh! I was a rebel, you know?" in a fake British accent. What a douche!!! LOL! She is such an idiot. |
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| Ironshadow | Jun 23 2005, 10:55 PM Post #4 |
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Good article. But yet another in which mandona rips on Christianity. That's been happening in just about every interview she's done lately, hasn't it? I wonder if she got off any shots while she was pushing her latest book- what was that called again-" Doggie Style with Mandona"?(or as she subtitled it, "the good old days") So she's filled with hate for Christianity this time because the Vatican has "all that gold on the roof"- Well, let's see- first of all, there's no gold on the Vatican roof. Maybe the stupid bi tch was thinking of a temple in the far east somewhere- after all, all roofs look pretty much the same when you're a demented, stupid, addled old whore. There are some paintings on the ceiling of the Vatican, but that's not the same as a roof made of gold. Maybe she doesn't know the difference between a painted ceiling and a roof. Not surprising since her time in grade school was spent trying to make people look at her beaver. Kinda pathetic that she's gone right from kindergarten all the way to age 47 just holding her legs open in front of strangers without even learning the ABC's. Maybe that's why she has so much trouble cribbing- I mean, writing kid's books- she hasn't gotten to that level yet. But at least we now know she's insanely jealous of the decor at the Vatican. That, from a woman who has mansions all over the world, and designer clothes....and servants that cater to her every whim......and limosines....who wants to buy an island or two....who never appears in public without diamonds and jewels- Looks like she's angry that people support the Catholic church instead of the religion that she's now taking credit for founding. But see, people went and did some beautiful artwork for the Vatican, because it's a sacred place. Precious blood was spilled there, and that means something to people. And the Pope.....only has one apartment. The rest of the place is devoted to worship, and libraries, and archives, and study. mandona, on the other hand, is worth nothing; why would people want to spend any money on her?
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| MayKennedy | Jun 24 2005, 06:21 PM Post #5 |
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I've gotta say, I love her approach to writing. I know quite a few writers, and I'll have to pass on this brilliance. Instead of looking for inspiration, turning over plot points, and waiting for the creative mood to strike, they can all do it her way: sit at the computer and wait for "something to come out." Somehow I have to visualize a toilet in all this. I remember seeing somewhere that she started writing books because "there weren't any good books with morals for children." So she writes The English Roses, about how you shouldn't judge people by how they look. Judy Blume certainly did not cover this territory with Are you there God, it's me Margaret. Richard Peck didn't cover jealousy and how hard it is to be the poorest in school in Ghosts I Have Been, so it's a good thing Madonna had her "Binah" deal with that as well. And what's the point in reading Katherine Paterson's Bridge to Terabithia when Madonna's coming out with a new, didactic book. Yes, it's great she's writing, because none of the above books are any good. |
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| flea dip | Jun 24 2005, 07:19 PM Post #6 |
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According to fan site Drowned Madonna, this newspaper article you linked to is from a British newspaper called The Guardian. The interview was done by a Dina Rabinovitch, and according to the intro, she is a "long time [Madonna] fan." This interview (according to the fan site) was done to publicize Madonna's Lotsa De Casha book. I will type in some of the quotes from the inteview, followed by my observations or thoughts. (#1.) Why is Madonna acting as though she had writing block? She already said early on that her books were "inspired by" Kabblah stories she heard from Berg. (#2.) Secondly, she's had a long history of ripping off other people's ideas, so why did she opt to attempt at being original this time (though she point (#1.) above). (1.) Has she never heard of Christian apologetics?? (She should also get a copy of The Purpose Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For? , by Rick Warren; or click here to visit the official site.) Christians have written mounds of essays, tracts, and books about these questions she has. For example, Unravelling Wittgenstein's Net: A Christian Think Tank Tekton Apologetics Probe Ministries - although "Probe," is, I believe incorrect on its stance against women serving as clergy in Christianity; see this site for rebuttals to the traditionalist gender view. See their "Free Article" link, which is under the "The Resources" heading on the left side of the page. Apologetics Press Origins - This site features scholarly and popular resources concerning intelligent design and philosophical theism - in other words, they also cover Darwinism / evolution -and that's just the tip of the ice berg. I could list many, many more such links. (2.) Um, Madonna - have you ever read the Bible yourself? Instead of relying on the Roman Catholic magisterium to tell you what it means, rather than accepting unquestionably the official Roman Catholic stance on what it all means, have you ever read the Bible yourself? You should. (3.) Have you ever considered that maybe Roman Catholicism is not the end-all, be-all, or only method of understanding Christianity, that maybe some of the Roman Catholic Church's claims or teachings on some subjects are not true or accurate? I do not mean to offend any Roman Catholic board members, and if you are one and would like to defend Roman Catholicism, please feel free to do so (but probably in a new thread in the "Outlook" forum would be better than doing so in this thread)... I know that Roman Catholics believe that their group is the one and only true form of Christianity (though the Vatican 2 position tries to be slightly more open than this), and they claim that they can trace their lineage back to Peter, who was supposedly the first pope, but hello, Madonna, there was a Protestant Reformation. Have you, Madonna, read any Baptist or Protestant rebuttals to Roman Catholic claims? - (although the guy behind that site is into "Reformed Theology," a.k.a. "Calvinism," which I do not agree with, either) I love how she acts like Christian thinkers, authors, and philosophers have never addressed her concerns, when in fact, they've been doing so almost since the inception of Christianity itself. Again with the "she's so little in person" comment. She looks like a frikkin' corpse in photos we've seen, when she doesn't look like an unwashed, unbathed bag lady or a Sylvester Stallone wanna-be, with those big biceps. Other mothers have used the approach before, but usually in regards to toys, not clothing. My mom did this to me once when I was a kid. I've heard of other moms doing it with bath towels. The American t.v. show Malcolm in the Middle featured a plot where the mom, Lois, punishes her sons by locking up all their Christmas presents in the garage. She threatens them with taking all their presents back to the store if they don't behave. So why is Madonna being made out to be the originator of this parenting technique? Ah- ha. This fits in with my theory about her. She will rip off other people, but 1.) she hates it when people can see that she's not original and 2.) she hasn't always done a 'verbatim' rip-off, which at times, can make her thefts a bit harder to detect. In one interview, when a journalist asked her about her very frequent habit of ripping off Marilyn Monroe, she snapped back, "So what, so have a lot of other people!" She's showed anger in other interviews when being pressed to explain why she relies on Monroe's persona and look so heavily. Madonna gets pissed off when people point out she didn't come up with an idea. I said on the old board in a very old post (and I maybe point this out on my site), that when she rips somebody off, it isn't always a "word-for-word" or exact duplicate (whether we're talking about a music video, pose in a photo, out fit she is wearing, hair style, etc). I guess she thinks if she changes 10% of an idea (or changes song lyrics, a costume, or hair style only slightly) that nobody will notice that she got the idea elsewhere. She changes a song lyric or an outfit or a pose just enough to throw off a casual observer. So this writer is disappointed because Madonna is a fake. Well duh, I've been saying this forever. The fans don't listen. They don't want to see the truth. They want to believe in the media- and feminist-pundit- created Madonna image, that she's this strong, indepenent, emboldened, deeply-thinking feminist or a "savvy business woman." Madonna is a shallow thinker, doesn't have any original ideas, and she's out for herself. She's a vapid pop singer who wants fame and money, and she can't be true to (or consistent with) any central set of values, because she doesn't have any, or, if she has any, she briefly clings to them and dumps them when something else grabs her attention. If you're looking for deep meaning when it comes to Madonna, or for her to actually believe in and practice the crap she spouts in her publicity releases, you're going to be disappointed every single time. The fans can only see the "marketed" Madonna. They're unwilling to see her for what she is. edited to fix some type-o's and to add a link |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Jun 25 2005, 12:49 AM Post #7 |
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I think she photocopied "Revelations" when she needed to make a remix of "Justify My Lameness"... |
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| flea dip | Jun 25 2005, 02:36 AM Post #8 |
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I think Lenny Kravitz came up with the idea for the song, didn't he? Which would mean he had to at least know what book of the Bible to crack the volume open to. Man-donna probably wouldn't have had a clue. There's only one book of the Bible I could picture her actually reading, and that's Song of Songs. Chapter 1 - skim it over to see what I mean, if you're not already familiar with it. Chapter 2 Racy stuff. |
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| Ironshadow | Jun 25 2005, 03:39 AM Post #9 |
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.....and another well-deserved kick in the ass: Once there was a rich star who suggested giving money away- |
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| flea dip | Sep 13 2011, 10:42 PM Post #10 |
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She sounds like she was let down by the experience: The two faces of Madonna
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| flea dip | Oct 24 2011, 12:47 AM Post #11 |
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We used to have a "Madonna booed by fans" thread a long time ago. I don't know what happened to it. Maybe I merged it with another thread? It would sure come in handy right now: 'I'm misunderstood,' says Madonna as she gets booed at W.E.'s London premiere
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| flea dip | Apr 15 2012, 10:26 PM Post #12 |
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A Madonna fan is disappointed with MDNA (see letter below) and asks a Billboard employee about it. The guy who answers the question... I cannot take him seriously, because on his list of most favorite Madonna albums he actually includes that terrible "American Life" album at #6. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MADONNA?
Madonna did not write Open Your Heart (it was by some guy who wrote it because he had a crush on a woman who was a waitress at a restaurant he used to visit), and I'm pretty sure she did not write the other two songs, either. She did write the horrid "Where's the Party" which was on the True Blue album. |
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| flea dip | Nov 15 2012, 04:52 PM Post #13 |
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Teresa Giudice, Madonna Fan, Doesn't Get Post-Show Meet-And-Greet
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| flea dip | Jun 23 2015, 09:16 PM Post #14 |
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The following editorial will probably be cross posted to a few different threads ------------------- This author covers so many concepts we have threads for at this board, it's hard for me to know which thread to put this in, or maybe I should cross post it to a few? She talks about how Madonna is desperate (but without using the word "desperate"), and she talks about ageism and other things. I do not agree with this author that Madonna has ever been intelligent, sexy, or talented, though. She admits to being a Madonna fan, or was at one point, and finds herself very disappointed by what Madonna has turned out to be. Verity Johnson: Madonna's lost it - here's what she needs to do to get it back
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| flea dip | Jun 25 2015, 09:14 PM Post #15 |
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Just wanted to say that some of the critical essays I see written now are by people who say they are Madonna fans or USED TO BE Madonna fans, but now they find her desperate, tacky, or awful. Depending on the main point of their criticism, you can find their essays in the "Old Lady" thread, or "Has Been" thread (Has Been Thread), Desperate to Remain Raunchy thread, or "Fans Angry At Madonna" thread |
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| oceanlover998 | Jun 26 2015, 09:23 PM Post #16 |
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...when I checked in on this site this morning just after making my way to the kitchen in a somewhat bleary state, I read the title of this thread as 'Madonna Lays Down Farts'... ...hahahahahahaha... |
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| flea dip | Jun 27 2015, 12:04 PM Post #17 |
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Considering our last conversation maybe she does. |
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| flea dip | Jul 4 2015, 01:15 PM Post #18 |
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The following editorial has been cross posted to several threads. Madonna returns to play Sydney after nearly 23 years - and it's too late
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| Blue Tiger | Jul 16 2015, 04:34 AM Post #19 |
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On fb she's just posted a photo o Jesus and captioned it ""b***h Please..............i'm THE Madonna! ❤ #rebelheart" -Madonna" https://www.facebook.com/madonna/photos/a.10151969572164402.1073741833.10584534401/10153478854394402/?type=1&theater There are many comments from her fans who dislike it and resposnses from the stans trying to excuse her. This one is the best: "So, thats it... im gonna sell my Madonna tickets.. seems someone is so not matured.. its ok to be different and rebellic.. but this is just childish attention seeking of an aging artist. Bye bye , Madonna" and response: "Hey she doesn't operates the account." And the other good ones: "I'm a fan of her music but dislike it. She talks about respect beliefs, all religions, etc and look what she is doing acting so childish." "I don't like it. She is offensive and seems really desperate" "I dislike this too. She cannot compare herself to the holy mother Mary. She should go to Pompei pray to God and mother Mary for what she has achieved in life. Childish and stupid post." "Utterly disrespectful!" "Love u M but please stop making fun of religion. You look desperate for attention." "Madge - this image and your words are offensive, in my opinion. Your EGO has grown way too big, and does not suit you, or your degree of talent. Please respond!" "Yes, you are Madonna and no need to prove it still. But, sincerely, I don't like your vulgarity..." "u r not normal" "HUGE DISLIKES for this post Emotikon unsure Emotikon unsure Emotikon unsure But Emotikon heart You Madonna Emotikon heart <#" "Someone sure is thirsty for attention!I am not a religious dude but she sure has become an ignorant attention seeking tw**.She is basically pulling a Kanye Yeesus type of move for publicity.Her children should be ashamed of their Mom for trying so hard to be controversial." Edited by Blue Tiger, Jul 16 2015, 04:34 AM.
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| oceanlover998 | Jul 16 2015, 09:10 AM Post #20 |
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...thx for the post Blue Tiger - that's actualky a picture of the Blessed Virgin Mary she posted...the actual, real Madonna, Mother of God... ...pride and ego go before a huge fall...if she thinks blasphemous mockery is just another tool to generate PR buzz and controversy, she may just finally do herself in... |
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