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Islamic Teachings About Sex; -rape of school girls at Beslan
Topic Started: Jan 25 2006, 01:47 PM (881 Views)
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read what do you have to say about this ,

http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussi...ic_teachin.html

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EDIT: Main subject heading of post was edited by Flea Dip to clarify matters. Original subject heading of post was, "i dont know all i did was click , and i found this"
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If that's for real, it's certain very twisted and anal retentive (pun intended, yuck yuck)...
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Islamic Teachings on sex with infants - (and other, similiar topics)

Lots of gross stuff there. Don't know how much any of it applies to all Muslims, how much is considered to be official and binding on "average Joe" Muslims by their imams, etc. I would hope that most of them don't practice sex with infants (or approve of it) and so forth.

I didn't understand the deal with "sweating,"
  • If a man becomes aroused by a woman other than his wife but then has intercourse with his own wife, it is preferable for him not to pray if he has sweated;
Is "sweating" or "sweat" code-speak or a euphemism (spelling?) for some other concept that I'm just not getting?

Another puzzler:
  • "It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden."
But hey, if you want to eat camel crap or sheep snot (if you really, really want to eat dung or snot, and you know you do, sure!), it's okay - if you use it as a seasoning or condiment? What? :confused: :laugh:

Ths next part addresses Islam and homosexuality. I've often been confused by Islam's condemnation of homosexuality, that they're not consistent about their treatement of this subject.

I had a co-worker from Iran who said that homosexuals get stoned to death in Iran, and I think that may also be practiced in other predominantly Islamic communities, or so I've heard.

Okay, but friends on another board were explaining that not only are extremist Muslims taught that martyrs for Allah get 72 (female) virgins when they die, but they can also have sex with little boys if they like.

The blog owner that Anshirk cited remarked,
  • Note: Therefore, homosexuality and pedophilia are accepted in Islam. Why then [is] the punishment for homosexuality is death?
My question too.
  • Sodomizing a menstruating woman does not require such payment.
I can't imagine many women wanting to be sodomized. Sounds like the fantasy and sexual position favored by AC-DC males and/or males with homosexual tendencies. :dunno:
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very complicated topic to deal with ,

looks like some quack who wants to manipulate his religion, the point that i could see is that women look like a piece of sh** to these men .
something like second class ,as if we/they are something filthy in general just an object.
another thing what religion allows adult sexual contact with children .forbidden.

---a fantasy thing like you stated --right

i was just logging onto google and i dont know just as if the browser was alive and knew me and put this on the page in front of me i didnt even type anything .i got this aussie blogsite .

i got lots of messages( because my anti- virus expired ),there are alot of spyhardware found in my computer and automatically i started to get things in consideration of what i typed or browsed.i had to get the computer formatted finally.i think people dont like what we do on anti-madonna, i felt that we are being watched, everything is pin pointed in silence .
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anshirk
Jan 28 2006, 01:32 PM
i think people dont like what we do on anti-madonna, i felt that we are being watched, everything is pin pointed in silence .

Oh, I wouldn't give Madonna that much credit :)

I know she thinks she's god-like - she has a huge ego - but she's not all-powerful, so I wouldn't worry about it :)
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I thought we already had a thread about Islam and homosexuality - guess not.

Operation removes lightbulb from [Muslim dude's] anus
  • Thu Jun 29, 7:34 AM ET

    MULTAN, Pakistan (Reuters) - Fateh Mohammad, a prison inmate in Pakistan, says he woke up last weekend with a glass lightbulb in his anus.

    .... Mohammad, who is serving a four-year sentence for making liquor, prohibited for Muslims, said he was shocked when he was first told the cause of his discomfort. He swears he didn't know the bulb was there.

    "When I woke up I felt a pain in my lower abdomen, but later in hospital, they told me this," Mohammad said.

    "I don't know who did this to me. Police or other prisoners."

    The doctor treating Mohammad said he'd never encountered anything like it before, and doubted the felon's story that someone had drugged him and inserted the bulb while he was comatose.
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From The Truth About Islam: A Former Muslim Speaks

:sick: More on Pedophelia.....And Thighing?? Beastility?

A few excerpts:
  • Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

    "A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia)

    .... Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
    “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”

    .... If there are no children available, an animal will do:
    A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.

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:puke2: the teachings of the Ayatollah Khomeini
  • Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini - Self-professed pedophile and beastiality expert felt it necessary to address the issue with these fatwahs:

    -- SEX WITH ANIMALS --

    >> "A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." <<

    Maybe this is why beef exports aren't a booming business for Islamic countries.

    >>"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned."<<

    -- MARRYING OFF YOUNG, pre teen, GIRLS --

    While we're on the subject of the legal opinions of Islam's most respected cleric, let's not forget this other Khomeini gem:

    >>"It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."<<

    Marrying off your daughter before puberty is a Muslim father's VIP pass to heaven.

    -- SEX WITH INFANTS --

    Let's check out another helpful tidbit from the Ayatollah:

    >>"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby.

    However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK.

    If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."<<

    The message here is that if you want to get around the Islamic four-wife cap, you can stake your claim on as many sex slaves as you want by simply sticking your penis in babies until you feel you've reached the number necessary to satisfy your sadistic perversions.

    Of course, make sure you molest the hottest baby in the family, since you can't change your mind and swap her out for one of her sisters.

    Thank goodness you can do a test drive in their rectums before you have to commit to your decision.

    (There are many more of the Ayatollah Khomeini's incredible insights into Sharia Law and how Muslims should behave in The Little Green Book.)

    -- SEX WITH BOYS --

    ...Even though we're supposed to be talking about women, while we're on the subject of Muhammad's libido, what about young boys?

    >>Bukhari:V4B52N143
    "The Prophet told an Ansar, ‘Choose one of your slave boys to serve me in my expedition to Khaybar.' So, he chose me, even though I was just nearing puberty.

    I served Muhammad when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly,

    ‘Allah! I seek refuge with you from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and from being overcome by men.'"<<

    In his description of paradise...

    >>Qur'an 56:13 "...Round about them will (serve) boys of perpetual (freshness), of never ending bloom..."<<

    >>Qur'an 76:19 "And round them shall serve immortal boys of perpetual freshness, never altering in age. If you saw them, you would think they were scattered pearls." <<

    >>Qur'an 76:21 "Upon them will be green garments of fine green silk and heavy gold brocade. They will be adorned with bracelets of silver;..."<<

    Abdel Hamid Kishk, a blind sheikh who constantly attacked Egypt and its official religious establishment for not adhering to true Islam, had been telling his audience that

    >> "Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy ETERNAL ERECTIONS and the company of young boys draped in earrings and necklaces."<<

    Some of the religious scholars (ulama) at al-Azhar, which is considered by almost all Muslims to be the center of Islamic "scholarship", had of course come out with a bold statement to refute this damning claim:

    >> "Yes," they said, "men in paradise would have erections, but MERELY PROTRACTED (for a long period of time), NOT PERPETUAL."<<

    Thank goodness they cleared up that important inconsistency in his depiction of homosexual pedophilia in Islamic paradise.
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Sudan man forced to 'marry' goat
  • A Sudanese man has been forced to take a goat as his "wife", after he was caught having sex with the animal.

    The goat's owner, Mr Alifi, said he surprised the man with his goat and took him to a council of elders.

    They ordered the man, Mr Tombe, to pay a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars ($50) to Mr Alifi.

    "We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi said.

    Mr Alifi, of Hai Malakal in Upper Nile State, told the Juba Post newspaper that he heard a loud noise around midnight on 13 February and immediately rushed outside to find Mr Tombe with his goat.

    "When I asked him: 'What are you doing there?', he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up."

    Mr Alifi then called elders to decide how to deal with the case.

    "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife," Mr Alifi told the newspaper.
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Someone wrote in the LGF thread:
"Fatwas from Egypt are nothing more than pyramid schemes."
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Weird Meta-Fatwa of the Day
  • Gomaa’s request came a week after Sheikh Ezzat Atiya, president of the Hadith (Prophet Mohamed’s (PBUH) Sayings) department at Al-Azhar University, issued the breastfeeding fatwa in which he had drawn on Islamic traditions which forbid sexual relations between a men and a women who had breastfed him, to suggest that symbolic breastfeeding could be a way round the strict segregation of males and females.
What?-
  • forbid sexual relations between a men and a women who had breastfed him
Do they mean a mother - son relationship - or what the heck are they talking about?

From the article:
  • Gomaa himself is the author of a controversial book which claimed that Prophet Mohammed’s (PBUH) companions used to drink his urine, considering it a blessed act, as reported by Al-Masry Al-Youm newspaper.

    Gomaa stuck to his position despite criticism, claiming that everything which emanated from the Prophet is pure and sacred.

    “We hope that we will no longer have to see another fake and incorrect fatwa similar to those that have been released recently about breastfeeding adult men and the Prophet's Mohammed’s (PBUH) urine,” Sheikh Mohmoud Ashour, former deputy of Al Azhar and member of the Islamic Research Center, told The Daily Star Egypt.
Someone at LGF volunteered this next link.

:sick: Islam and The Nursing of Adults

Lecturer suspended after breastfeeding fatwa

Excerpt:
  • CAIRO'S al-Azhar Islamic University has suspended a lecturer who suggested men and women work colleagues could use symbolic breastfeeding to get around a religious ban on being alone together.

    The lecturer, Ezzat Atiya, had drawn on Islamic traditions that forbid sexual relations between a man and a woman who has breastfed him to suggest that symbolic breastfeeding could be a way around strict segregation of males and females.
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...but it IS ok to have sex with goats.
I heard on the tube today that Palestinian women are being threatened with murder if they do not cover their heads.
And some people say WE have censorship. Some people don't know what real oppression is.
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This article could be cross-posted to our threads called Islam and Women, or Islam and Homosexuality, but I decided to post it here.

Raping Men as a Terrorist Recruiting Tool

Excerpts:
  • Posted By Phyllis Chesler On February 5, 2009 @ 5:41 am In Uncategorized | 77 Comments

    Fancy that! Al Qaeda does not discriminate on the basis of gender or religion. They not only kill both men and women, Muslim and infidel alike, they also recruit men and women by raping them!

    [1] Pink News, which bills itself as “Europe’s largest gay news,” outlet has just confirmed that al-Qaeda uses male rape as a tactic to recruit male human bombers in Algeria.

    We have just [2] learned about a [3] Sunni al-Qaeda related plot in Iraq in which terrorists raped eighty Muslim girls and women, then turned them over to [4] Samira Jassim who patiently and persistently persuaded the rape victims, (many of whom had been targeted because they were depressed or mentally ill), to cleanse their shame by blowing themselves and other Muslims up. Twenty eight women did so.

    In an interview with Dr. Anat Berko, the author of The Path to Paradise - The Inner World of Suicide Bombers and Their Dispatchers, she pointed out that there is “always a woman” behind the female suicide bomber, who functions like a “pimp or a Madam in a brothel.”

    Potential women suicide bombers are never alone again, they are always accompanied by at least one, usually older woman, who encourages, manipulates, guards, and supports the potential shaheeda–just like a mother might do.

    Dr. Berko, who is currently a Visiting Professor at George Washington University, is a criminologist, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Israeli Defense Forces, and a research fellow at the Institute for Counter-Terrorism and lecturer at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herziliya.

    In a terrible sense, “Madam” Jassim only exaggerated what is routinely and normatively done to many girls and women today in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, and increasingly in countries such as Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, etc. After all, Jassim did her Evil Stepmother maternal dirty work in a culture which fears, despises, shrouds, genitally mutilates, force-marries girls to their first cousins, and perpetrates honor killings.

    How different is raping them so that they may find glory through jihad? In a sense, isn’t this a quantum career leap and sacred opportunity?

    I have [5] written about the routine rape of both male and female children by older boys and men in Arab and Muslim societies many times in the past, in both books and articles.

    This is one factor which may account for a characteristic life-long “paranoia” and a super-vigilance about shame and honor which afflicts these cultures.

    According to Pink News, an Algerian militant, Abu Baçir El Assimi, confirmed in the pages of The Sun that:

    “The sexual act on young recruits aged between 16 to 19 was a means to urge them to commit suicide operations… that “intense social stigma and fear of more gay sex attacks leaves Muslims prepared to die.”

    Apparently, a suspected 22 year-old terrorist bomber was killed in an attempted attack on a security installation in the Tizi Ouzou province of Algeria last month. The ongoing autopsy has revealed that he may have been raped. “There was a large tear in the anus of the terrorist, (as well as semen), which confirms the sexual abuse.”

    We can’t say we didn’t know, that no one told us. We now know– I am telling you– that we are dealing with terrorists who engage in the human sacrifice of their own people, including their own children; who hide behind their own civilian populations whom they force into becoming their “human shields;” who use rape as a systematic weapon of war in Darfur, (I have called this “gender cleansing”), and who now use rape as a way to recruit young men and women into becoming human homicide bombers.
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Someone on another site mentioned that the "brides" in question were little girls - and they were being married to grown men; if you look at the photos of the "brides" on news sites carrying this story, most of the girls appear to range in age from about 8 to 10:

Hamas sponsors mass wedding in Gaza
  • July 30, 2009

    SHEIKH ZAYED CITY, GAZA STRIP — Nearly a thousand Palestinians celebrated marriage on Thursday night in a ceremony organized by Hamas in the north of the Gaza Strip.

    Hamas dignitaries including Mahmud Zahar, one of the militant group's top leaders, were on hand to congratulate 450 grooms who took part in the carefully stage-managed event.

    "We are saying to the world and to America that you cannot deny us joy and happiness," Zahar told the men, all of whom were dressed in identical black suits and hailed from the nearby Jabalia refugee camp.

    Each groom received a present of $500 from Hamas, which said its workers had also contributed five per cent of their monthly salaries to add to the wedding gift.

    The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days.

    "We are presenting this wedding as a gift to our people who stood firm in the face of the siege and the war," local Hamas strongman Ibrahim Salaf said in a speech.

    The Gaza Strip has been under Israeli blockade since the Islamist Hamas movement seized control there in June 2007. In December and January, 1,400 Gazans and 13 Israelis were killed in a 22-day war that left much of the territory in ruins.
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I guess this could be cross posted to the "Islam and Homosexuality" thread, but for now-

The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan
  • As the United States deepens its commitment to Afghanistan, FRONTLINE takes viewers inside the war-torn nation to reveal a disturbing practice that is once again flourishing in the country: the organized sexual abuse of adolescent boys.

    In The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan, Afghan journalist Najibullah Quraishi (Behind Taliban Lines) returns to his native land to expose an ancient practice that has been brought back by powerful warlords, former military commanders and wealthy businessmen. Known as "bacha bazi" (literal translation: "boy play"), this illegal practice exploits street orphans and poor boys, some as young as 11, whose parents are paid to give over their sons to their new "masters." The men dress the boys in women's clothes and train them to sing and dance for the entertainment of themselves and their friends. According to experts, the dancing boys are used sexually by these powerful men.

    In detailed conversations with several bacha bazi masters in northern Afghanistan and with the dancing boys they own, reporter Quraishi reveals a culture where wealthy Afghan men openly exploit some of the poorest, most vulnerable members of their society.

    "What was so unnerving about the men I had met was not just their lack of concern for the damage their abuse was doing to the boys," Quraishi says. "It was also their casualness with which they operated and the pride with which they showed me their boys, their friends, their world. They clearly believed that nothing they were doing was wrong."

    Under the guise of doing a documentary on similar practices in Europe, Quraishi gained the confidence of Dastager, a former mujahideen commander and wealthy businessman whose business interests include importing autos from the Far East. With Dastager as his guide, Quraishi takes viewers inside the world of bacha bazi, where prominent men compete to own and use the boys.

    "I had a boy because every commander had a partner," says Mestary, a former senior commander who is well connected with major Afghan warlords. "Among the commanders there is competition, and if I didn't have one, then I could not compete with them."

    "I go to every province to have happiness and pleasure with boys," says an Afghan man known as "The German," who acts as a bacha bazi pimp, supplying boys to the men. "Some boys are not good for dancing, and they will be used for other purposes. ... I mean for sodomy and other sexual activities."

    "It's a disgusting practice. ... It's a form of slavery, taking a child, keeping him. It's a form of sexual slavery," says Radhika Coomaraswamy. U.N. special representative for Children and Armed Conflict. "The only way to stop bacha bazi is if you prosecute the people who commit the crime, and that's what we need, because the laws are there in the books against this practice."

    In the documentary, Quraishi interviews local police officials who insist that men who participate in bacha bazi will be arrested and punished regardless of their wealth or powerful connections. Later that day, however, Quraishi's cameras catch two officers from the same police department attending an illegal bacha bazi party.

    "Many of the people who do this work for the government," says Nazir Alimy, who compiled a report on bacha bazi for UNICEF. "They speak out against it but are abusers themselves. ... I personally cannot mention any names because I am scared."

    Quraishi speaks with some dancing boys who fear they will be beaten or killed. "If they stray, they get killed," says a 13-year-old dancing boy. "Sometimes fighting happens among the men who own the boys. If you don't please them, they beat you, and people get killed."

    Quraishi also talks with the family of 15-year-old Hafiz, who reportedly was murdered after trying to escape from his master, a well-known drug baron and warlord. In Hafiz's case, a suspect -- the policeman who supplied the gun that killed Hafiz -- was arrested and convicted. Sentenced to 16 years in prison, the officer was released after serving only a few months. Hafiz's family says they suspect the boy's former owner bribed local officials to win his release.

    "If only these people were punished, this kind of thing wouldn't happen," Hafiz's mother says. "Whoever commits these crimes doesn't get punished. Power is power."

    The program will conclude with a detailed update of attempts to arrange the rescue of one of the dancing boys profiled in the film, an 11-year-old boy bought by Dastager from an impoverished rural family. It is a dramatic final chapter, full of new shocks and surprises, and, in the end, provides a measure of justice for the boy and his master.
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Six Year Horrible Anniversary: Beslan Jihad
Raping for Allah at Beslan: Sexual Terror: The Untold Stories of Beslan Jihad

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  • TheOpinionator November 19 2008
    By Deborah Schurman-Kauflin

    From the days of Prophet Muhammad, sexual terror has been an integral part of Islamic Jihad. The siege of the Beslan School by Islamic Jihadis in 2004 was no exception as reveals Dr. Schurman-Kauflin. -- Editor, MA Khan

    Excerpt from Chapter 1, “Disturbed: Terrorist Behavioral Profiles” (2008)

    On September 1, 2004, terrorists stormed a school in Beslan, Russia, and perpetrated one of the most heinous terror attacks in history. Though many people may have heard of this attack, it is very likely that most do not know what really happened there. The reality is so dark that few dare speak of what went on.

    There are predators in wait lurking everywhere searching for unsuspecting victims. If a person has a proclivity or a secret desire, that inclination can easily come out if an opportunity arises. And that is what happened at Beslan. The terrorists immediately killed the men because they wanted no resistance for their plans. Then, when they saw the helpless girls in front of them, the temptation became too much. Their perverse dreams came true.

    Beslan was clearly a sexual homicide/sexual suicide. That is, the offenders wanted more than simple terrorism. Some of the terrorists at Beslan were hired guns who did not plan on dying that day. They had not thought things through and did not realize that the Russians would not let them out alive.
    Then, once they were inside, and the realization dawned on them, plans changed.

    Things had deteriorated when the media reported that there were only 354 victims. Wanting to have a dramatic impact, the terrorists exploded with anger. There were 1200 victims, and the Russians were trying to down play the incident. The terrorists said they would have to eliminate victims to fit with what the media had reported. Their demeanor worsened, and they got really mean.

    It was then that they began raping the girls. They wanted sex as they killed, and this is sexual homicide. A sex killer gets excited when he thinks about forcing himself inside an unwilling victim, but the rape itself does not produce the ultimate excitement. It is the rape followed by the killing that is arousing. This is what happened at Beslan.

    One by one, females were targeted. The sex killers looked for the perfect victims, and after zeroing in, they grabbed and disrobed the little girls in the middle of the gym.

    There were muffled cries as the girls were humiliated in front of everyone.

    They were stripped, raped, and sodomized by several men.

    Not content to simply rape, the terrorists used their guns and other objects to penetrate the screaming victims while the other hostages were forced to watch.

    And the terrorists laughed. They laughed as they violated the children and made them bleed. What few people know is that some of the girls died as a result of being raped with objects. The internal damage was so severe that without immediate medical attention, the girls bled to death.

    Those who managed to survive required extensive reconstructive surgery and painful recoveries.

    But raping the girls was not enough for the deviants who had entered the school. The terrorists beat the other children. In fact, beatings took place regularly, and as they pummeled the little ones, the terrorists smiled and laughed.

    It was said that they would strike a child and then watch the child cringe. When the youngsters recoiled, their captors laughed.

    This says the offenders enjoyed inflicting the suffering. They wanted their victims to suffer. Such behavior is sadistic.

    Bringing others pain brings the sadist pleasure. And the terrorists tortured the victims in many ways.
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