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Manny's Camp In Panic; (Over Lookin' Bad at Gaultier's Show)
Topic Started: Jan 31 2006, 10:06 PM (222 Views)
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Drowned Madonna was one of the sites carrying this funny knee-jerk reaction to reports that Madonna wasn't looking her best at that Gaultier fashion show:
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[Read It First Here] Criticism at UK media for "Sadonna" reports

Joan Smith, at the UK newspaper The Independent, wrote this editorial criticizing the negative and vengeful British press coverage of Madonna's appearance last week at the Jean Paul Gaultier fashion show in Paris:

Hold the front page! Madonna is a bit older than she was

The popular press in this country really hates women

Shocking news, I'm afraid, for anyone of a nervous disposition: Madonna is getting older. Photographs published last week confronted readers with incontrovertible proof that the singer no longer looks the same as she did in 1982, sending large numbers of fans to lie down in darkened rooms. Personally, I would have liked to see some then-and-now pictures of the Daily Mirror's senior staff - none of whom has acquired a single wrinkle or a grey hair in the past quarter of a century, I understand - but there was no room. A cruel photograph taken on Wednesday, as Madonna arrived at Jean Paul Gaultier's show in Paris, took up too much space, with arrows drawing attention to her chin, teeth and forehead.

The popular press in this country really hates women. The brand leader in misogyny is the Daily Mail which, when it isn't writing about women dying from horrible diseases, goes on and on about cosmetic surgery: is 16 too young for a boob job? Why did this woman spend £25,000 on remodelling her body? I am sometimes asked why, if my theory is correct, the Mail and other big-selling dailies have so many women readers. The answer's simple: they have their fingers on the pulse of female anxiety. They present women readers with images of impossibly slender celebrities, making them feel aspirational and envious, in between revealing hidden messages in the Bible. The Mail is always promoting the next big diet, while revelling in exposing how miserable famous and successful women secretly are.

Often this is done under the guise of expressing legitimate concern, as in "friends of X say she has become worryingly thin after the death of her dog and being dumped by her millionaire boyfriend". This is code for suggesting that the woman in question has anorexia, in which case an element of bullying is involved; the paper hopes that the victim will issue a denial, thus keeping the story going, and that more "friends" will come forward to dish the dirt. I'm not sure how many readers recognise this device but it is unwise to take expressions of anxiety about someone's health or emotional state in the popular press at face value.

Last week, the Mirror got so carried away with its spiteful coverage of Madonna (front page splash calling her "Sadonna", followed by double-page spread) that it even devoted a leader to the subject. "As Tammy Wynette once sang, sometimes it's hard to be a woman. And Madonna is clearly finding holding the years back tougher and tougher," the paper pontificated, telling a greater truth than it realised. Neither the Mail nor The Sun even pretended to be anxious about the 47-year-old singer, the former asking whether her hair was receding after years of using dye and the latter comparing her with Joan Rivers - 25 years her senior.

I suppose it's fun, if you like that sort of thing, to feel you're bringing famous women down a peg or two. What the popular press never acknowledges is its dishonesty in endlessly promoting stick-thin women such as Victoria Beckham and Kate Moss - not to mention sending out a message that it's virtually a moral failing to show signs of ageing - and then mocking anyone who tries to stay young and slender, especially if she fails. Thus the Mirror announced last week that Madonna was "showing all the signs of a face and body pushed too far and too hard", without examining the question of who in this youth-obsessed, misogynist culture does the pushing. Given her athleticism in her latest video, maybe the singer was just having a bad day on Wednesday. But if her "quest for eternal youth" really is taking its toll, I think I know who to blame.


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I think I remember seeing that on their fan site or one of the sites the other day, and I meant to post it, but I forgot, so thank you!

Normally, I might agree with some of that article's points, but when it comes to Madonna in particular, I don't think so.

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I suppose it's fun, if you like that sort of thing, to feel you're bringing famous women down a peg or two.
Really, the only target I have is Madonna. When she was in her 20s and 30s especially, she was the most egotistical person on the planet.
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What the popular press never acknowledges is its dishonesty in endlessly promoting stick-thin women such as Victoria Beckham and Kate Moss - not to mention sending out a message that it's virtually a moral failing to show signs of ageing - and then mocking anyone who tries to stay young and slender, especially if she fails.
Hmm, but Madonna has always been addicted to exercise. She didn't just suddenly start working out a lot once she reached 46.

If you're age 30+, remember back in the 1980s when we were always being subjected to papparazzi video or photos of her bike riding or jogging? They'd show such photos on t.v. shows such as Entertainment Tonight or in magazines such as People.

Madonna was always exercising, even in the 1980s. Before that, she was a dancer in her early college days, and bios and so forth quote old friends as saying she didn't eat much back then.

Madonna seems to be obsessed with staying in shape for its own sake, and not due to societal pressures. I doubt that she does so out of insecurity. I think she sees it more as a point of pride to be in shape, and it's like a hobby of sorts.

And back then, as an American living in American society, Madonna was being subjected to American beauty ideals in the press, not British ones - if you want to get nit picky about things.
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The popular press in this country [Great Britain] really hates women
Well, I can't speak for all the British press, but I for one certainly dislike one woman in particular: Madonna.
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This is code for suggesting that the woman in question has anorexia...
Just looking at photos of Madonna, she looks malnourished to me. Nobody has to "suggest" it to me.
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Last week, the Mirror got so carried away with its spiteful coverage of Madonna (front page splash calling her "Sadonna", followed by double-page spread) that it even devoted a leader to the subject.
After years of Madonna's arrogance, it's pay back time. It's about time the tabloids pick on her a bit.
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... the latter comparing her with Joan Rivers - 25 years her senior.
Either great minds think alike, or journalists have been visiting this board again, because I noted under one recent photo of her that she's looking more like Joan Rivers these days.
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Given her athleticism in her latest video, maybe the singer was just having a bad day on Wednesday.
How does athleticism explain away a receding hair line and "grand pa" hands?
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But if her "quest for eternal youth" really is taking its toll, I think I know who to blame.
Okay, putting aside her body/face for a moment, does this journalist expect me to believe that Madonna's latest round of tacky fashions (e.g., hot pink colored spandex leotards, tacky Farrah hair, and baggy, see-through silver dresses) are also due to imposing standards set by the media on women?

If so, why do we not see lots of young ladies running about also wearing tacky silver dresses and hot pink leotards?

I think Madonna's tacky fashions are due to Madonna having to think up a new and unique "reinvention" for her new album release (it's standard issue with each new album she makes), and it has to be (or so she thinks) hip, youthful and trendy, and she thought that tacky 1970s fashions / hair style would fit the bill.

The bottom line is Madonna is looking haggard these days, or weird, regardless of the reason(s).

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

I've seen women same age as Madonna or older who do not look as bad or as old as she does. For a 47/48 year old, Madonna looks as though she's much older, IMO - maybe she went through too many years of hard partying.
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I agree with most of what you said, especially about it being payback time after eons of sycophantic Madonna praise. But as for the following:
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Madonna seems to be obsessed with staying in shape for its own sake, and not due to societal pressures. I doubt that she does so out of insecurity. I think she sees it more as a point of pride to be in shape, and it's like a hobby of sorts.

I definitely see it being due to insecurity. If she were truly happy with herself and her self-image, she wouldn't take it to these ridiculous lengths where she spends several HOURS each day exercising, and making her arms look strange. (Heck, even professional bodybuilders don't have arms that look webbed at the elbows the way hers do.) She is literally a nutjob who ALWAYS has to be doing something (or someone.)
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Jan 31 2006, 10:52 PM
... I definitely see it being due to insecurity.  If she were truly happy with herself and her self-image, she wouldn't take it to these ridiculous lengths where she spends several HOURS each day exercising, and making her arms look strange....
You could be right.

If she does it out of insecurity, that's another example of how she's not the independent woman or ideal feminist her supporters say she is.

If Madonna is just as affected and feels just as pressured by Madison Ave. (i.e., Western media / marketing / beauty ideals) to look a certain way as your average British or American female is, then she isn't really the "in-charge" or "take-charge" rebel / feminist / strong woman the feminists and fans claim she is.

Madonna supposedly doesn't care what anyone, anywhere says about her. (That's how her fans like to see her, anyway, and I think she promoted and encouraged them to see her that way, at least through the 1980s and on into the early 1990s.)

My impression is that she exercises excessively because she's wacko.

She just has an unnatural obsession with it. Some people collect stamps. Some people relax by gardening. She exercises constantly.

She also seems to have a deep seated, odd fear of fat people. She's said several very hostile / rude comments about fat people in interviews over the years.

Maybe her exercise mania / rigorous (spelling?) dieting stems from that (if not insecurity). :dunno:
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Madonna has set herself up as a "boy toy" for years and the media has come to accept her on those superficial terms. When she tries to get serious, the press doesn't buy it at all (witness the reaction towards American Life album and her forays into spirituality...then compare it to the reaction when Madonna goes back into familiar dance/pop fluff territory as her latest CD does). I think people have become so accustomed to the airbrushed version of Madonna that the recent shots of her at the fashion show genuinely took them by surprise. The reality doesn't match the hype. Sadly, Madonna's past is catching up with her; I don't think she's aging gracefully at all. Maybe that's why she has to work twice as long and hard to maintain her physique because she senses the spotlight is fading.

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Manny didn't complain too much about "age-ism" when she was still the young disco tart rolling around on MTV. Now, suddenly, it's a problem.... :ask:
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I haven't seen any scans of it yet, but I can confirm that at least two major tabloid magazines in the US have jumped on the "What's Wrong With Madonna's Face?" bandwagon. (In fact, I think that was the headline used in the Star.)

It's been posted:
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Feb 5 2006, 09:07 PM
**EDIT BELOW**

I haven't seen any scans of it yet, but I can confirm that at least two major tabloid magazines in the US have jumped on the "What's Wrong With Madonna's Face?" bandwagon. (In fact, I think that was the headline used in the Star.)

It's been posted:
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Sorry; I posted the same photos in another thread before seeing they were here.

Anyway, it's pretty funny when a magazine headline is screaming, "What is wrong with her face????!!!!????!"
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**EDIT BELOW**

I haven't seen any scans of it yet, but I can confirm that at least two major tabloid magazines in the US have jumped on the "What's Wrong With Madonna's Face?" bandwagon. (In fact, I think that was the headline used in the Star.)

It's been posted:
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lookin at that side by side comparison, it looks like Madonna had cheek muscle sucked out of her face to give her that drawn look. I don't think a face can get drawn the way hers is now through losing weight. I believe she was extremely anorexic when she was young and her face was stil round.

It also looks as if she had a little lip collagen on her bottom lip.

Her gap seems wider or when she first started her advisors told her to cover it up :laugh:

I can tell for a fact she definitely had fat sucked out of her eyes to give her that "enlightened" look

Perhaps a mini face lift to straighten out some of her laugh line and crows feet. Either that or minimal botox

And the bridge of her nose was definitely slightly adjusted because her nose used to look ethnic.


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Here's the other one I saw:
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Manny needs to get herself acquainted with a bathtub...

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