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| Manny's Camp In Panic; (Over Lookin' Bad at Gaultier's Show) | |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Jan 31 2006, 10:06 PM Post #1 |
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Drowned Madonna was one of the sites carrying this funny knee-jerk reaction to reports that Madonna wasn't looking her best at that Gaultier fashion show:
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| flea dip | Jan 31 2006, 10:35 PM Post #2 |
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I think I remember seeing that on their fan site or one of the sites the other day, and I meant to post it, but I forgot, so thank you! Normally, I might agree with some of that article's points, but when it comes to Madonna in particular, I don't think so. From the article: Really, the only target I have is Madonna. When she was in her 20s and 30s especially, she was the most egotistical person on the planet. Hmm, but Madonna has always been addicted to exercise. She didn't just suddenly start working out a lot once she reached 46. If you're age 30+, remember back in the 1980s when we were always being subjected to papparazzi video or photos of her bike riding or jogging? They'd show such photos on t.v. shows such as Entertainment Tonight or in magazines such as People. Madonna was always exercising, even in the 1980s. Before that, she was a dancer in her early college days, and bios and so forth quote old friends as saying she didn't eat much back then. Madonna seems to be obsessed with staying in shape for its own sake, and not due to societal pressures. I doubt that she does so out of insecurity. I think she sees it more as a point of pride to be in shape, and it's like a hobby of sorts. And back then, as an American living in American society, Madonna was being subjected to American beauty ideals in the press, not British ones - if you want to get nit picky about things. Well, I can't speak for all the British press, but I for one certainly dislike one woman in particular: Madonna. Just looking at photos of Madonna, she looks malnourished to me. Nobody has to "suggest" it to me. After years of Madonna's arrogance, it's pay back time. It's about time the tabloids pick on her a bit. Either great minds think alike, or journalists have been visiting this board again, because I noted under one recent photo of her that she's looking more like Joan Rivers these days. How does athleticism explain away a receding hair line and "grand pa" hands? Okay, putting aside her body/face for a moment, does this journalist expect me to believe that Madonna's latest round of tacky fashions (e.g., hot pink colored spandex leotards, tacky Farrah hair, and baggy, see-through silver dresses) are also due to imposing standards set by the media on women? If so, why do we not see lots of young ladies running about also wearing tacky silver dresses and hot pink leotards? I think Madonna's tacky fashions are due to Madonna having to think up a new and unique "reinvention" for her new album release (it's standard issue with each new album she makes), and it has to be (or so she thinks) hip, youthful and trendy, and she thought that tacky 1970s fashions / hair style would fit the bill. The bottom line is Madonna is looking haggard these days, or weird, regardless of the reason(s). I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I've seen women same age as Madonna or older who do not look as bad or as old as she does. For a 47/48 year old, Madonna looks as though she's much older, IMO - maybe she went through too many years of hard partying. |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Jan 31 2006, 10:52 PM Post #3 |
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I agree with most of what you said, especially about it being payback time after eons of sycophantic Madonna praise. But as for the following:
I definitely see it being due to insecurity. If she were truly happy with herself and her self-image, she wouldn't take it to these ridiculous lengths where she spends several HOURS each day exercising, and making her arms look strange. (Heck, even professional bodybuilders don't have arms that look webbed at the elbows the way hers do.) She is literally a nutjob who ALWAYS has to be doing something (or someone.) |
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| flea dip | Jan 31 2006, 11:16 PM Post #4 |
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You could be right. If she does it out of insecurity, that's another example of how she's not the independent woman or ideal feminist her supporters say she is. If Madonna is just as affected and feels just as pressured by Madison Ave. (i.e., Western media / marketing / beauty ideals) to look a certain way as your average British or American female is, then she isn't really the "in-charge" or "take-charge" rebel / feminist / strong woman the feminists and fans claim she is. Madonna supposedly doesn't care what anyone, anywhere says about her. (That's how her fans like to see her, anyway, and I think she promoted and encouraged them to see her that way, at least through the 1980s and on into the early 1990s.) My impression is that she exercises excessively because she's wacko. She just has an unnatural obsession with it. Some people collect stamps. Some people relax by gardening. She exercises constantly. She also seems to have a deep seated, odd fear of fat people. She's said several very hostile / rude comments about fat people in interviews over the years. Maybe her exercise mania / rigorous (spelling?) dieting stems from that (if not insecurity).
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| madame duran | Jan 31 2006, 11:19 PM Post #5 |
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Madonna has set herself up as a "boy toy" for years and the media has come to accept her on those superficial terms. When she tries to get serious, the press doesn't buy it at all (witness the reaction towards American Life album and her forays into spirituality...then compare it to the reaction when Madonna goes back into familiar dance/pop fluff territory as her latest CD does). I think people have become so accustomed to the airbrushed version of Madonna that the recent shots of her at the fashion show genuinely took them by surprise. The reality doesn't match the hype. Sadly, Madonna's past is catching up with her; I don't think she's aging gracefully at all. Maybe that's why she has to work twice as long and hard to maintain her physique because she senses the spotlight is fading. |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Jan 31 2006, 11:33 PM Post #6 |
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Manny didn't complain too much about "age-ism" when she was still the young disco tart rolling around on MTV. Now, suddenly, it's a problem....
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Feb 5 2006, 09:07 PM Post #7 |
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**EDIT BELOW** I haven't seen any scans of it yet, but I can confirm that at least two major tabloid magazines in the US have jumped on the "What's Wrong With Madonna's Face?" bandwagon. (In fact, I think that was the headline used in the Star.) It's been posted: ![]()
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| flea dip | Feb 6 2006, 09:28 PM Post #8 |
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Sorry; I posted the same photos in another thread before seeing they were here. Anyway, it's pretty funny when a magazine headline is screaming, "What is wrong with her face????!!!!????!" |
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| mirrorimage | Feb 6 2006, 11:40 PM Post #9 |
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lookin at that side by side comparison, it looks like Madonna had cheek muscle sucked out of her face to give her that drawn look. I don't think a face can get drawn the way hers is now through losing weight. I believe she was extremely anorexic when she was young and her face was stil round. It also looks as if she had a little lip collagen on her bottom lip. Her gap seems wider or when she first started her advisors told her to cover it up I can tell for a fact she definitely had fat sucked out of her eyes to give her that "enlightened" look Perhaps a mini face lift to straighten out some of her laugh line and crows feet. Either that or minimal botox And the bridge of her nose was definitely slightly adjusted because her nose used to look ethnic. |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Feb 8 2006, 08:52 PM Post #10 |
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Here's the other one I saw:![]()
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| whistleblower | Feb 8 2006, 10:06 PM Post #11 |
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Manny needs to get herself acquainted with a bathtub...
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