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Troubles with U.S. homosexual fan base?; - and related issues
Topic Started: Jun 22 2005, 01:28 AM (588 Views)
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How is Madonna going to use homosexuality to shock people anymore when so many straight men are being confused for being homosexual?

Her biggest problem, though -

I think this spells doom to Madonna's career - she's ripped off all the dead celebrities there are to rip off, and now this:
  • "The lag time between gay innovation and straight appropriation is nonexistent now," said Bruce Pask, the style director of Cargo magazine, who is gay. "They're picking up the trends as fast as we are."
Summary of the situation:
  • The result is a new gray area that is rendering gaydar - that totally unscientific sixth sense that many people rely on to tell if a man is gay or straight - as outmoded as Windows 2000. It's not that straight men look more stereotypically gay per se, or that out-of-the-closet gay men look straight. What's happening is that many men have migrated to a middle ground where the cues traditionally used to pigeonhole sexual orientation - hair, clothing, voice, body language - are more and more ambiguous. Make jokes about it. Call it what you will: "gay vague" will do. But the poles are melting fast.
Another excerpt from the article:
  • "It's easier for gay men to come out of the closet as slobs, just as it's easier for straight men to be dandies," said Brendan Lemon, the editor of Out, the gay men's magazine. "One of the things that's breaking down how gay guys are seen is that people know more kinds of men who are gay, nonstereotypical ones like soldiers and athletes rather than stylists and fashion designers and decorators."

    The lack of any one gay sensibility has meant that Out and other gay publications have struggled to reconcile a host of identities, while gay-vague magazines like Details and Cargo, aimed squarely at savvy, fashion-conscious men, are having a heyday.

    Mr. Lemon suggested that for a generation that grew up watching "The Real World" on MTV, in which the gay and lesbian characters were no more or less flamboyant in dress or persona than their straight counterparts, being gay carries neither the stigma nor the specialness it once did. That, he said, has also altered the landscape of men's style.
Source: New York Times

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I'm surprised that nobody commented on this article.

One of the things that Stupid is famous for is taking ideas from the homosexual community - while those ideas are still "under ground" and bringing them to the masses and making them main stream. Now we find out that straight men are jumping on to the homoseuxal trends at roughly the same time homosexuals are using them. Kind of steals Madonna's thunder, doesn't it?

Who is she going to turn to now to steal 'under ground' trends from?
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Who is she going to turn to now to steal 'under ground' trends from?

Children! Although the same deluded fan base will keep buying whatever crap she cranks out...
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While the following article does mention that at least one Madonna song made it to the AOL play list at least once (under the category of "gay music" - that is, the song itself was offered and played), notice that a recent Top 10 count down shows a total absence of any Madonna song.

Now, the news keeps blabbing on about how Madonna has had her 12th #1 hit in the UK (with "Sorry," i.e. Madonna tops singles charts for 12th time - ABCmoney.co.uk), but I guess COAD and/or "Sorry" isn't doing as well with American homosexuals.

- er, assuming that this AOL music service is for American homosexuals. If it's international, how is it that Man-donna makes it to #1 on the British pop music or dance chart with "Sorry," but not on the AOL list?

The following article was written by a guy who claims to be a homosexual:

AOL Strikes Wrong Chord - NY Daily News
  • Feb. 16, 2006

    .... In the case of AOLmusic, the "gay and lesbian" music section makes assumptions about taste that necessarily stumble into stereotype. Take a look at what AOL considered "gay music" in its debut week:

    A show tune (from "Rent"), a song from a fashion-oriented sexpot (Gwen Stefani) and a dance cut from - guess who? - Madonna. Why not go all the way and throw in something from Judy Garland?

    .... What's irritating about the growing "gay" demarcation for music isn't only that it's nonsensical. It's that it purports to be cutting edge while hinging on something as old as the proverbial hills: targeting a market.

    Worse, this particular targeting operates on an antique model. For years, gay media sold itself to the advertising world on the strength of the community's uncommon amount of disposable income, generated by having no kids to support.

    But with gay couples currently crowding the nation's fertility clinics and adoption houses, it's no longer a sure thing that they can, at whim, spend $300 on a throw cushion.

    This week's [circa Feb 16, 2006] 'Gay Music' (according to AOLmusic, that is)

    1. "Just Stopping By" (DJ set), Andy Bell

    2. "Behind These Hazel Eyes" (live), Kelly Clarkson

    3. "Dare," Gorillaz

    4. "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree," K.T. Tunstall

    5. "I've Got a Life," Eurythmics

    6. "Hit Me Baby One More Time," Britney Spears

    7. "King of the Mountain," Kate Bush

    8. "Just Let Go," Fischerspooner

    9. "Beautiful" (live in studio), Christina Aguilera

    10. "You're Beautiful" (in studio), James Blunt
- again, notice that Madonna's lastest songs, Hung Up and Sorry, are nowhere in the top 10, or whatever kind of list this is.
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