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| flea dip | Mar 7 2006, 06:41 PM Post #1 |
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As someone who doesn't agree with homosexuality, I found this funny. Some people are furious that "Crash" won the Oscar for best picture rather than "Brokeback Mountain." How did ‘Brokeback Mountain’ lose? - MSNBC.com Hollywood isn't being straight with gay community - Boston Globe What happened to my Brokeback? Uneasy Hollywood chooses race relations over gay cowboy drama - Times Online - I think this news story is wrong. The guy who wrote it insists that there is no "gay agenda" to cram homosexuality down the public's throats, and I totally disagree. The Bird Cage with Robin Williams tried to make homosexuality look normal. It wasn't depicted negatively in Basic Instinct (Sharon Stone had a girlfriend in that movie). Madonna's film The Next Best Thing portrayed her homosexual buddy as being a warm and caring father figure for her son. Homosexuality was depicted as being acceptable in some other movie I saw that I can't recall the name of - it had a police character (played by one of the actors who was in Fargo) who admitted he had romantic feelings for another man. Oh, and Colin what's-his' name played Alexander the Great in the film Alexander, and he was a big honking homosexual in that movie. The movie didn't make homosexuality look morally wrong, it seemed to just accept it as matter- of- fact. Off the top of my head, those are the only examples I can think of. |
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| Melissa | Mar 7 2006, 08:28 PM Post #2 |
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Alexander the Great was, in fact, gay. So it's not that unusual for it to be mentioned in the Alexander movie. |
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| flea dip | Mar 7 2006, 09:00 PM Post #3 |
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Was he? I remember when that film came out (wasn't it directed by Oliver Stone?) that the reviews for it said that the director made Alexander look homosexual, but in reality he was probably heterosexual. Putting aside the homosexuality in the Alexander movie, I just thought it was lousy. The acting was bad, the dialogue was cheesey . . . |
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| Former Fan | Mar 8 2006, 06:01 AM Post #4 |
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Why can't that stupid Academy ever just vote for the merit of a film, regardless of where it takes place, genre, or how much money it's made? Silly how politics come into play. I used to faithfully watch the Oscars every year until 2003, when my work schedule changed. Now, with the winners getting so political in their speeches, I don't miss it. |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Mar 8 2006, 03:02 PM Post #5 |
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I'm glad "Crash" won; everyone's performance in the movie was pretty much stellar in my opinion. It's stupid for people to act like "Brokeback" is the first time anyone's ever seen gay people in a movie, or more specifically, gay people in love. (Did they also forget the fact that Tommy Lee Jones was nominated for his role in JFK and his character was a homosexual? This would've probably been 1992 or 1993, to add another example.) And I thought I heard that Phillip Seymour Hoffman won for his performance in Capote? |
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| flea dip | Mar 8 2006, 03:27 PM Post #6 |
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1NF said, Yeah, I think you're right. I just thought of another example. In Slingblade, Dwight Yoakam played an abusive husband. Billy Bob Thornton played the mentally retarded Karl. And John Ritter played a homosexual guy who was friends with the wife who was being abused by Yoakam's character. In the 1950s film Some Like It Hot, homosexuality is hinted at. Jack Lemon dresses in drag, and this little old man has a crush on him. At the end of the movie, Lemon gets fed up, says he and the old guy can't be a couple, rips off his wig and says, "... because I'm a man." The old guy isn't phased - he just says, "Oh well, nobody's perfect." This web page has even more examples of homosexuals in movies, going back to the 1930s. Here are some exceprts from that page: Other than watching music awards shows in my teens and early 20s, I just got so bored with any kind of awards show. I find myself caring less and less as the years go by, including who won the Oscar for whatever movie. These shows are just so boring. A bunch of pampered, wealthy people in fancy outfits giving dull speeches interspersed with dippy, lame-o song and dance numbers or video montages of some celeb they're honoring.
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| Melissa | Mar 8 2006, 05:36 PM Post #7 |
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Yep, he was. But not in the modern sense of the word. In ancient Greece and Rome, soldiers who were often on lengthy tours of battle typically took male lovers for companionship. Also common in Greek society was an older man taking a younger man as his lover/pupil. A mythological example of this fairly regular practice can be found in the story of Zeus and Ganymede. Alexander had three wives as well; all of which were political alliances.
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| flea dip | Mar 8 2006, 07:33 PM Post #8 |
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Thanks for the information. ![]() Yeah, I was aware that the ancient Greeks and Romans were into homosexuality. I remember seeing a show about the ancient Romans that said that the men were so used to having sex with other men that when it was time for them to get married to a female, that the female had to look like a male, as the idea of having sex with a woman scared the males. The females would shave their hair and wear male clothing. Of course, I also had to learn about this stuff in various college courses, mostly in mythology class and the history of western civilization or whatever that class was called. I saw what I consider to be hints of homosexuality in The Iliad, between Achilles and one of his buddies. Last night, I briefly googled the phrase "Alexander the great homosexual," and up came many web pages. I went to one web page that had tons of links (with annotations), and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on the matter. Some say yes he was homosexual, others that he was bisexual, and yet others saying no, he wasn't homosexual at all. |
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| anshirk | Mar 11 2006, 02:28 AM Post #9 |
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Michael Caine and Christopher Reeve had a kissing scene in the mystery thriller Deathtrap this was made 1982, nobody noticed that one ,was'nt there anybody that time to object , now we are in newer times and still, its not excepted . it was just better off that CRASH won . why not ? i have still yet to see the movies .how can i be the judge of that? i was laughing at the scenes and it was shocking to see our super hero kissing a man . it was new that time . at least for me ? but the movie was good over all because of the suspense .and we didnt know what the ending was till it came . it was played at school and when the teacher went out the guys in the class rewinded the vcr a dozen times , kept on seeing the kissing scene over and over again . it started to get annoying (not funny) later and the rest of the class wished they would stop rewinding it . http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083806/usercomments |
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| flea dip | Mar 21 2006, 07:38 AM Post #10 |
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I'll be sure to buy a copy "Brokeback" DVD ride set for April 4 Excerpts: |
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| flea dip | Mar 25 2006, 09:55 PM Post #11 |
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‘Brokeback’ actor not happy, nor gay Excerpt: |
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| flea dip | Apr 11 2006, 03:43 AM Post #12 |
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All righty then. It's not suitable for prisoners, but it's suitable for the general American population. Makes perfect sense to me. ![]() Brokeback Mountain 'unsuitable' for prisoners Oh my. Woo!
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| maddyhater | Apr 11 2006, 09:55 AM Post #13 |
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Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, and what ideas can BM give them that they don't already do on a daily basis in there already????? MH |
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| flea dip | Dec 19 2008, 01:45 AM Post #14 |
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This was too funny: Italian TV snips trigger Brokeback Mountain of protest Cuts transformed Ang Lee's gay cowboy romance into a straight tale of friendship when it was broadcast on state TV on Monday |
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