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| Swine Flu (H1N1 Flu) / Bird Flu | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 19 2006, 08:36 PM (467 Views) | |
| flea dip | Mar 19 2006, 08:36 PM Post #1 |
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Originally, I didn't want to start a thread about this, but it keeps popping up in the news. Some people seem to be in a panic about it. One guy on t.v. speculated that if the USA gets hit with the bird flu, it will most likely start in Alaska and go eastward from there. (The thinking being that birds in the Far East will migrate to the western USA, which = Alaska / Oregon / Calif. etc.) I'm not going to worry about this. I never worried about "mad cow" disease, either. I figure if God wants me to die from some disease, okay, but if not, I'm going to die some other way, so why worry? Israel confirms H5N1, culls poultry Excerpts: |
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| maddyhater | Mar 20 2006, 06:47 AM Post #2 |
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isn't it ironic that most of the diseases that kill people are the ones that are carried by traveling from one part of the world to another? I wonder if they ever found out where this bird flu started from in the first place. I just hope they keep a check on it, and get their a-holes in gear for vaccines to either stop the spread or cure it. Some drug company that wants to make billions of dollars will come up with something for the goverment contacts... MH |
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| flea dip | Mar 21 2006, 10:21 AM Post #3 |
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U.S. officials: Plan for bird flu Don't count on government rescue, health secretary warns Excerpts: Excerpt: |
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| Hate_Madogma | Apr 27 2006, 08:37 PM Post #4 |
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Hi Flea! My sentiments exactly!! If we are destined to go, we will. If not then we won't so why worry? Right on!
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| flea dip | Apr 30 2006, 12:46 PM Post #5 |
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The headlines are saying there are new cases of the bird flu in the UK. I think I also heard recently it popped up someplace else (maybe Israel??). More bird flu cases rock UK Excerpts: |
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| flea dip | May 19 2006, 07:00 PM Post #6 |
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How Did Seven Family Members Get Infected With Bird Flu? Excerpt: |
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| flea dip | Jun 2 2006, 10:59 PM Post #7 |
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Two Indonesian children die of bird flu - local tests - June 2, 2006 Canada finds bird flu case, plans further testing Excerpt: |
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| flea dip | Feb 6 2007, 10:05 PM Post #8 |
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British Confronts Outbreak of Bird Flu EU advised to confine poultry in bird flu-risk areas Trade bans over bird flu unjustified, says European commission British Bird Flu Worker Is Hospitalized |
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| flea dip | Feb 19 2007, 05:08 PM Post #9 |
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The bird flu is now in Russia. H5N1 bird flu came to Russia from Azerbaijan, Russian official stated |
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| flea dip | Apr 24 2009, 10:19 PM Post #10 |
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Not really sure what the Swine Flu is; I heard about it on the TV news tonight. The swine flu started in Mexico, and cases of it have turned up in Texas and California. Deadly new flu strain erupts in Mexico, US Health monitors watch for swine flu |
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| flea dip | Apr 26 2009, 09:35 PM Post #11 |
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What is swine flu and how serious is it? Swine flu threat calls for precaution, preparation World gov'ts race to contain swine flu outbreak |
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| anshirk | Apr 29 2009, 11:10 AM Post #12 |
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Informative site of Swine Flu-LINK What is Swine Influenza? Swine Influenza (swine flu) is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A influenza virus that regularly causes outbreaks of influenza in pigs. Swine flu viruses cause high levels of illness and low death rates in pigs. Swine influenza viruses may circulate among swine throughout the year, but most outbreaks occur during the late fall and winter months similar to outbreaks in humans. The classical swine flu virus (an influenza type A H1N1 virus) was first isolated from a pig in 1930. How many swine flu viruses are there? Like all influenza viruses, swine flu viruses change constantly. Pigs can be infected by avian influenza and human influenza viruses as well as swine influenza viruses. When influenza viruses from different species infect pigs, the viruses can reassort (i.e. swap genes) and new viruses that are a mix of swine, human and/or avian influenza viruses can emerge. Over the years, different variations of swine flu viruses have emerged. At this time, there are four main influenza type A virus subtypes that have been isolated in pigs: H1N1, H1N2, H3N2, and H3N1. However, most of the recently isolated influenza viruses from pigs have been H1N1 viruses. Swine Flu in Humans Can humans catch swine flu? Swine flu viruses do not normally infect humans. However, sporadic human infections with swine flu have occurred. Most commonly, these cases occur in persons with direct exposure to pigs (e.g. children near pigs at a fair or workers in the swine industry). In addition, there have been documented cases of one person spreading swine flu to others. For example, an outbreak of apparent swine flu infection in pigs in Wisconsin in 1988 resulted in multiple human infections, and, although no community outbreak resulted, there was antibody evidence of virus transmission from the patient to health care workers who had close contact with the patient. How common is swine flu infection in humans? In the past, CDC received reports of approximately one human swine influenza virus infection every one to two years in the U.S., but from December 2005 through February 2009, 12 cases of human infection with swine influenza have been reported. What are the symptoms of swine flu in humans? The symptoms of swine flu in people are expected to be similar to the symptoms of regular human seasonal influenza and include fever, lethargy, lack of appetite and coughing. Some people with swine flu also have reported runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Can people catch swine flu from eating pork? No. Swine influenza viruses are not transmitted by food. You can not get swine influenza from eating pork or pork products. Eating properly handled and cooked pork and pork products is safe. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160°F kills the swine flu virus as it does other bacteria and viruses. How does swine flu spread? Influenza viruses can be directly transmitted from pigs to people and from people to pigs. Human infection with flu viruses from pigs are most likely to occur when people are in close proximity to infected pigs, such as in pig barns and livestock exhibits housing pigs at fairs. Human-to-human transmission of swine flu can also occur. This is thought to occur in the same way as seasonal flu occurs in people, which is mainly person-to-person transmission through coughing or sneezing of people infected with the influenza virus. People may become infected by touching something with flu viruses on it and then touching their mouth or nose. What do we know about human-to-human spread of swine flu? In September 1988, a previously healthy 32-year-old pregnant woman was hospitalized for pneumonia and died 8 days later. A swine H1N1 flu virus was detected. Four days before getting sick, the patient visited a county fair swine exhibition where there was widespread influenza-like illness among the swine. In follow-up studies, 76% of swine exhibitors tested had antibody evidence of swine flu infection but no serious illnesses were detected among this group. Additional studies suggest that one to three health care personnel who had contact with the patient developed mild influenza-like illnesses with antibody evidence of swine flu infection. How can human infections with swine influenza be diagnosed? To diagnose swine influenza A infection, a respiratory specimen would generally need to be collected within the first 4 to 5 days of illness (when an infected person is most likely to be shedding virus). However, some persons, especially children, may shed virus for 10 days or longer. Identification as a swine flu influenza A virus requires sending the specimen to CDC for laboratory testing. What medications are available to treat swine flu infections in humans? There are four different antiviral drugs that are licensed for use in the US for the treatment of influenza: amantadine, rimantadine, oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir. While most swine influenza viruses have been susceptible to all four drugs, the most recent swine influenza viruses isolated from humans are resistant to amantadine and rimantadine. At this time, CDC recommends the use of oseltamivir or zanamivir for the treatment and/or prevention of infection with swine influenza viruses. What other examples of swine flu outbreaks are there? Probably the most well known is an outbreak of swine flu among soldiers in Fort Dix, New Jersey in 1976. The virus caused disease with x-ray evidence of pneumonia in at least 4 soldiers and 1 death; all of these patients had previously been healthy. The virus was transmitted to close contacts in a basic training environment, with limited transmission outside the basic training group. The virus is thought to have circulated for a month and disappeared. The source of the virus, the exact time of its introduction into Fort Dix, and factors limiting its spread and duration are unknown. The Fort Dix outbreak may have been caused by introduction of an animal virus into a stressed human population in close contact in crowded facilities during the winter. The swine influenza A virus collected from a Fort Dix soldier was named A/New Jersey/76 (Hsw1N1). Is the H1N1 swine flu virus the same as human H1N1 viruses? No. The H1N1 swine flu viruses are antigenically very different from human H1N1 viruses and, therefore, vaccines for human seasonal flu would not provide protection from H1N1 swine flu viruses. Swine Flu in Pigs How does swine flu spread among pigs? Swine flu viruses are thought to be spread mostly through close contact among pigs and possibly from contaminated objects moving between infected and uninfected pigs. Herds with continuous swine flu infections and herds that are vaccinated against swine flu may have sporadic disease, or may show only mild or no symptoms of infection. What are signs of swine flu in pigs? Signs of swine flu in pigs can include sudden onset of fever, depression, coughing (barking), discharge from the nose or eyes, sneezing, breathing difficulties, eye redness or inflammation, and going off feed. How common is swine flu among pigs? H1N1 and H3N2 swine flu viruses are endemic among pig populations in the United States and something that the industry deals with routinely. Outbreaks among pigs normally occur in colder weather months (late fall and winter) and sometimes with the introduction of new pigs into susceptible herds. Studies have shown that the swine flu H1N1 is common throughout pig populations worldwide, with 25 percent of animals showing antibody evidence of infection. In the U.S. studies have shown that 30 percent of the pig population has antibody evidence of having had H1N1 infection. More specifically, 51 percent of pigs in the north-central U.S. have been shown to have antibody evidence of infection with swine H1N1. Human infections with swine flu H1N1 viruses are rare. There is currently no way to differentiate antibody produced in response to flu vaccination in pigs from antibody made in response to pig infections with swine H1N1 influenza. While H1N1 swine viruses have been known to circulate among pig populations since at least 1930, H3N2 influenza viruses did not begin circulating among US pigs until 1998. The H3N2 viruses initially were introduced into the pig population from humans. The current swine flu H3N2 viruses are closely related to human H3N2 viruses. Is there a vaccine for swine flu? Vaccines are available to be given to pigs to prevent swine influenza. There is no vaccine to protect humans from swine flu. The seasonal influenza vaccine will likely help provide partial protection against swine H3N2, but not swine H1N1 viruses. |
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| flea dip | Apr 30 2009, 04:43 PM Post #13 |
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Thanks for posting that info, Anshirk. I was just coming back into this thread to mention that a few days ago the American Government changed the name of the flu from the "Swine Flu" to H1N1. Some kid died in Houston as a result of this flu; he had recently visited Mexico. Among the swine flu mysteries: Why only deaths in Mexico? White House Update on the H1 N1 Influenza and Suggested Protective Measures More [American] schools have closed because of swine flu WHO to stop using term 'swine flu' to protect pigs |
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| noone3 | Apr 30 2009, 08:02 PM Post #14 |
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A friend of mine is a nurse in NC. She is thoroughly convinced WHO is going to raise it's alert level to 6 within the next few days. They are already closing schools and treating it as a pandemic in texas. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21925.html Biden is telling people to stay off subways, planes, etc. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30471035/ Schools closing all over the place. |
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| flea dip | May 2 2009, 09:29 PM Post #15 |
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Pigs infected with A/H1N1 flu in Canada Swine flu may be less potent than first feared AP: Worldwide [H1N1] flu cases top 800 |
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| flea dip | May 7 2009, 10:55 PM Post #16 |
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![]() Wow, one whole pig. It's a disaster... how are they managing to deal with this? Afghanistan's Only Pig Quarantined in Flu Fear |
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| flea dip | May 10 2009, 04:41 AM Post #17 |
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Washington man with swine flu dies: health dept |
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| flea dip | Jun 11 2009, 01:50 PM Post #18 |
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WHO Declares Flu Pandemic World Health Organization heightens swine flu alert Prepare for Second Wave of H1N1 Virus, Says World Health Organization What The H1N1 Pandemic Means WHO: Full Pandemic Flu Vaccine Production To Start In 2 Weeks WHO says nations must remain on guard against H1N1 flu Swine Flu Becomes a Global Pandemic |
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| anshirk | Nov 5 2009, 06:35 AM Post #19 |
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I found this news about a vaccine made in March 2009. Baxter Caught Shipping Vaccines With Live Avian Flu Virus To 18 Countries Worldwide ........“Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter — which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world — getting away with saying, essentially, “Oops?”, Adams concludes. This is not the first time that vaccine companies have been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses. In 2006 it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States. Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries .......This is not the first time that vaccine companies have been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses. In 2006 it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States. Reader questions on H1N1 answered- LINK from The Globe and Mail Readers comments: 1.This study was done by the evil company that makes MF59, a squalene adjuvant similar to the AS03 in Canadian vaccine. "Squalene is a naturally occurring oil which has been used in the development of vaccine adjuvants, such as the oil-in-water emulsion MF59. In past years, by use of noncontrolled and nonvalidated assays, a claim was made that antisqualene antibodies were detectable in the sera of individuals with the so-called Gulf War syndrome. Using a validated enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay for the quantitation of immunoglobulin G (IgG) and IgM antibodies against squalene, we demonstrated that antisqualene antibodies are frequently detectable at very low titers in the sera of subjects who were never immunized with vaccines containing squalene. More importantly, vaccination with a subunit influenza vaccine with the MF59 adjuvant neither induced antisqualene antibodies nor enhanced preexisting antisqualene antibody titers. In conclusion, antisqualene antibodies are not increased by immunization with vaccines with the MF59 adjuvant. These data extend the safety profile of the MF59 emulsion adjuvant." 2. “…it is claimed that the adjuvant used in the anthrax vaccine was to blame for Gulf War syndrome, but there was not adjuvant in that vaccine.” WRONG - Despite US Dept. of Defence denials that squalene was an added “adjuvant” in the anthrax vaccine given to Persian Gulf War military personnel (whether deployed or not), the US FDA later found squalene in some batches of the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Project version. Gulf War Syndrome symptoms were noted in the participants in this program. Tulane Medical School used these known squalene recipients with GWS symptoms to create a anti-squalene antibody detection test. They then used this test on real GWS patients who had received the original vaccine at the outbreak of the Persian Gulf War (AKA Gulf War I); 95% of these military vaccinees with GWS tested positive for the anti-squalene antibody; zero percent of those who deployed for that war who didn’t have symptoms of GWS tested for the antibodies. This was published in the Feb 2000 issue of Experimental Molecular Pathology (mainstream peer-reviewed journal). The implications are crystal clear: those soldiers who had the version of the anthrax vaccine with squalene ended up with GWS; those who received the batches without squalene did not get sick. “A similar adjuvant, MF59, has been used in about 40 million vaccinations in Europe." Misleading, ‘similar’ is not ‘same’ so that is a misleading statement. It is a complex matter of differing formulae (both have squalene but in different proportions) and a Big Pharma fight over patents. The jury is definitely out on the squalene danger, and Canadians are the guinea pigs, unlike the USA, where the adjuvant is not allowed. |
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