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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 22 2006, 10:28 AM (1,138 Views) | |
| flea dip | Mar 22 2006, 10:28 AM Post #1 |
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First of all, how is "Croke" pronounced? Is it pronounced the same as "Crook" or as "Croak" or ....? If "Crook," please insert obligatory anti-Madonna joke <here> Madonna's stage is "too big" and "too elaborate?" Naw, who would've thunk it? I guess she thinks she needs a stage the size of her ego. Whatever happened to that gig she was supposed to play at some tent thingy? I did an old post about it a few weeks ago. Never heard anymore about it. Madonna stalls at Croke Park hurdle - subscription only site Drowned Madonna is carrying the story |
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| flea dip | Apr 2 2006, 04:39 PM Post #2 |
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I guess her ego and manly-man biceps couldn't fit their stage. Re (from article below - discussing a different performance): "However, delays in building the London stadium forced Madonna to cancel the show." When Britney Spears was not selling out venues for her Onyx Hotel tour, she stopped touring, and her spokespeople said it was because she was sick or something. I think Christina Aguilera did the same thing when some of her shows were not doing well. These articles that discussed all this said that a pop singer's p.r. people will use such excuses to try and hide the fact that the person could not sell many tickets. Croke Park stage not big enough for Madonna |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Apr 2 2006, 08:28 PM Post #3 |
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And Billy Joel, in spite of his alcohol problems, will sell more tickets. |
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| Tonygirl | Apr 4 2006, 10:03 AM Post #4 |
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That's because Billy Joel, though I'm not a big fan of his, still appeals to the people of the 80s who listened to him then. Many acts can carry their fans through the years. These are the legends. Madonna can't. Even if she sings her old songs, she doesn't get many of her old 80s fans showing up, she has made the mistake of trying to get new kiddie teeny fans instead of keeping the old ones who made her rich. Elton John and Phil Collins bore me to tears but they still get their 70s and 80s fans. Cher gets on my nerves but look how she sells out venues. People from the 60s-80s buy her tickets. Madonna will never truly be any "legend" if she has no one from her heyday showing up at her future concerts. Picture the average Billy Joel fan. They are aged about late 30s to 50-ish, casual dressy, maybe a nice music collection at home with some jazz and classic rock CDs, nice house or plush apartment, just been to a 25 or 30 year reunion, enjoying some wine after the show, etc. Then imagine the typical Madonna fan. Gay guys who live in inner city apartments, college girls who wear shirts saying "Porn Star," high school kids who are too young to even remember the Disco Age or her Material Girl schtick... |
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| flea dip | Apr 4 2006, 10:58 AM Post #5 |
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Yep. I touched on this at the Anti Manny site a long time ago... even though I can't stand her, I used to buy some of her CDs, the ones from the 1980s. But then she got all weird on her newer CDs with electronic noises and stuff. I couldn't relate. Sounded like a bunch of goobledy-gook to me. Not that all of it sounded like rubbish to me; I thought "Frozen" was rather pretty. I know some people go for that weird techno type stuff, but back in the late 1990s, people over age 25? I'm not so sure. (About the closest thing to that which I used to like was music by Art of Noise, Information Society, and Dee Lite back in the 1980s / early 90s.) As for trying to get new fans rather than just catering to the old ones, I think Madonna's ego may come into play. She wants to be able to attract people under age 25. Either that, or she simply thinks she can attract them, and it's a marketing thing to sell even more product. I guess she is sort of stuck doing so, because she was portrayed in the media for so long as always hip, on the cutting edge. If she just sits still now and appeases old fans and plays the old hits, she probably thinks she'll be portrayed as a has-been. I think she's already a little on the has-been side of things, especially in America. |
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| Tonygirl | Apr 4 2006, 10:19 PM Post #6 |
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True. I had bought a few of her things in the 80s too, and then she went too sex-crazed and "controversial." She went form a pop-tart with a few catchy songs to a vulgar pig, saying the most stupid and ignorant things I've ever heard. Plus after awhile, the casual fan gets sick of all the re-inventions. Pick a format and look and stick with it. You can't keep all your fans by being pop one day, sex-freak the next year, then electronic, followed by cowgirl hooker, then going all political, then disco. This country, as sad as it is, is going through a pimp-ho-bling-gang craze. (GOD I HATE that word "bling." Talk about overused.) I hope this fad dies a painful death soon, as I cannot help but correlate teens wearing tiny skirts and belly shirts reading "Ho" with the growing problem of rape and child molestation. But it would be funny to see Skank catch on that that's what's popular here, and witness her attempt a hip-hop CD. I wanna hear more about her feelin' sooper dooper. Maybe she can rap about her accident and fights with hubby. At least she could rhyme "throw" with "blow." |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Apr 6 2006, 03:09 PM Post #7 |
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Ah, but that's "empowering and ironic"... Just kidding; ITA.
Maybe even then she'd need some help. I think you just inadvertantly gave her an idea for a new song lyric!
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