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Corporate Whore / Sell Out / Shilling For...; - streaming service TIDAL, H&M, GAP, Louis Vuitton, etc.
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The photo here is definitely worthy of the Vogue Gallery. The blog entry itself is hilarious and the Comments scathing: http://www.dlisted.com/node/39824#commentsThis could probably go under the 'Not a Material Girl' thread as well given the exorbitant gym fees she's charging....
Those pix of her at the gym - looks more like a bowling alley.
You're right, some of those are dorky enough to merit an appearance in the Vogue Gallery.
Yeah, I mentioned her "Hard Candy" gym in the 'Not a Material Girl' thread, as the only reason I see for her to open a line of gyms is for profit. I can't think of any other reason she'd open them.
I'd like to cross post some of the reader comments from that page into another thread.
Thanks for sharing, oceanlover998!
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This mentions Madonna's clothing line for little girls/juniors:
Sexy Lolitaâ style for kids raising concerns- A $25 bikini top targeting preteens crashed and burned a few weeks after public outcry sent executives at Abercrombie Kids slinking back to the boardroom to revisit their marketing strategy.
Photo caption: It looks like a bikini top, but this bandeau is designed to wear out of the water. The top is part of the Material Girl line for juniors by Madonna for Macyâs, with input from her daughter, Lourdes, who was 13 years old when it launched
The âAshley,â a padded âpush-upâ triangle bikini top peddled to girls ages 7 to 14, was first ârecategorized,â according to a company statement released on Facebook last week.
âWe agree with those who say it is best âsuitedâ for girls age 12 and older,â said the statement from Abercrombie Kids, a division of Abercrombie & Fitch. The âAshleyâ disappeared from the website.
An online firestorm saw parents and kids criticizing the company for promoting the sexualization of young girls, which, of course, is nothing new. Princesses of pop culture are the frequent targets of concerned parents as stars such as Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan pass the baton to the likes of Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato.
âIt has been going on for the last 10 years,â said Meenakshi Gigi Durham, assistant professor at the University of Iowa and author of âThe Lolita Effect: The Media Sexualization of Young Girls and What We Can Do About Itâ (Overlook, $24.95). âAbercrombie & Fitch has been nailed before for this sort of thing. They have always been pushing the sexualization of little girls, so I canât say I was surprised.â
It was surprising to see the product disappear â presumably in response to public pressure.
âI do know that in many places, there are conversations about this sort of thing and there is a lot more public discourse about it and that is encouraging that there is some push back,â Durham said.
Public opinion on the topic is pretty clear. Two recent polls on an opinion website, SodaHead.com, show 51 percent of respondents agreeing that âyoung girls dress too sexy.â
Eighty-five percent of respondents in a separate poll said Abercrombie Kidsâ padded bikini top is not OK for little girls.
What parents consider inappropriate garments extends beyond outfits at Abercrombie Kids.
There are kitten heels in sizes small enough for 4-year-olds and T-shirts with sexy sayings sized to fit newborns at Gymboree.
Macyâs carries tops for juniors that leave little to the imagination, such as a bandeau with sequins from Material Girl, a line launched last year by Madonna with input from her then-13-year-old daughter, Lourdes.
Further complicating matters of appropriateness is the fact that the target age range of 7 to 14 designated by many retailers crosses three very different phases in the life of girls: tweens, preteens and teens.
Parents â concerned about the negative impact that supersexy dressing might have on their daughters, from eating disorders to sexually transmitted infections â have fought back in their own way.
In 2005, Brenda Sharman co-founded Pure Fashion, a faith-based organization that encourages young girls to live, dress and behave with modesty, in the metro Atlanta area.
Each year the organization, which totals 600 participants nationwide, holds a Pure Fashion show featuring age- and style-appropriate hair, makeup and clothing.
Sharman was introduced to Abercrombie & Fitch several years ago. A friend showed her a company catalog with âXXXâ on the cover and naked models on the pages. Later, for an appearance on the âDr. Philâ show, Sharman went to the store for the first time and purchased a $60, 8-inch skirt as a visual aid.
âWhen you walk in [the store] and see they have removed the clothing from the models in order to sell clothing, you know they arenât selling clothing. They are selling an attitude. They are selling sex,â Sharman said. âGirls and parents need to realize when they support a store that promotes such an obvious message, they encourage [the message].â
Considering parentsâ reaction, why arenât retailers doing more to end the hyper-sexy trend in little girlsâ clothing?
âFor corporations, it is all about inculcating very young children into a certain ideology of femininity and sexuality that is geared to consumption,â Durham said. âThey want very young children to be aware of the trappings of sexuality that the marketers insist are necessary to present yourself as an attractive, viable female. All of these sexy garments ... are part of that push.â
And itâs not just girls who need to be wary of inappropriate messages.
During Christmas 2009, Susan Tucker of Marietta did her parentsâ gift shopping. Her 10-year-old son had taken an interest in lacrosse, so she purchased a shirt at Abercrombie with âmy disco stickâ â a reference to a song by Lady Gaga â and an image of lacrosse sticks. âMy nieces and nephews [all 20-somethings] said, âYou donât what a disco stick is?â â Tucker said. They directed her to listen to the Gaga CD. Her son never wore the shirt.
âI realized it is not just their ads; it is the content,â Tucker said. âNow that he is in middle school, I really have to look at his shirts. I want him projecting the right image.â
Mary Ashenfelter, coordinator for Pure Fashion Atlanta, said the organization also helps parents demystify popular culture, Ashenfelter said. They use books and videos to educate parents on the inner workings of the beauty and advertising industries and how certain messages can impact a childâs psyche.
It all makes sense for girls ages 14 to 18, the target market of Pure Fashion, but what do you do when retailers are pushing the same messages to girls half that age?
While shopping for her 4-year-old, Joyce Davis, an author of teen novels and a parenting blogger, has spied everything from high heels to skinny jeans, none of which she considers appropriate gear for little girls.
She was very disturbed by the latest Abercrombie Kids debacle.
âAt 7, to be thinking about body image in that way ... It is offensive and unacceptable,â said Davis. âWhy am I having to have a conversation about appropriate clothing when my daughter doesnât even know how to add and subtract?â
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1. âAshleyâ bikini from Abercrombie Kids.
2. Shoes with a half-inch heel, small enough for a toddler, can be found at Gymboree.
3. A halter top from the Grass Collection in the juniors department at Macyâs features a lace overlay and padded cups.
4. It looks like a bikini top, but this bandeau is designed to wear out of the water. The top is part of the Material Girl line for juniors by Madonna for Macyâs, with input from her daughter, Lourdes, who was 13 years old when it launched.
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She's selling perfume now (this could be cross posted to the greedy thread too I suppose):
ABC draws the line at Madonna's raunchy new perfume ad: Channel to digitally cover singer's cleavage- ABC has deemed Madonna's ad for her new her perfume, Truth or Dare, too racy.
The 30-second television commercial shows the 53-year-old singer cavorting in a low-cut corset and fishnet stockings, while singing and writhing to the dance beat, 'Im a bad girl.'
Now network executives have ordered the black-and-white perfume ad to be digitally altered to cover the offending shots of her body.
Among the content changes that have reportedly been requested are digitally altering the singer's bra to make it bigger and extend higher, covering more of her chest, and also making her corset longer to cover more of her behind.
A source told the New York Post: 'ABC also wants to cut another suggestive scene where Madonna writhes around.'
Once the requested changes have been made, ABC will only air the perfume ad after 9pm, with the exception of the daytime talk show The View.
The decision comes in the wake of increasing unease about over-sexualisation in television ads.
Madonna's perfume ad openly displays seduction, and shows the singer as a women in control of her overt sexuality, putting emphasis on her cleavage. The provocative ad is about selling the Madonna brand, in turn leading to sales of the product as well as other products associated with the singer.
This tactic is a reoccurring feature in advertising, leading American culture to constantly push the envelope of promiscuity that often portrays women as sexual objects, causing growing unease with consumers.
Whether ABC's issue is with the physical exposure of Madonna's cleavage, or the fact the singer uses her cleavage as a form of feminine flirting and seduction both for its aesthetic and erotic effect, is unclear.
If the channel were to ban the raunchy ad outright, it would lose advertising revenue.
Preempting complaints from viewers who find the ad inappropriate, ABC's digital censorship move appears to be a compromise between commerce and their viewers probable reactions, which effectively translates to: don't get mad at us, we censored the bare bits.
Madonna has already been in the headlines this week following the debut of her racy new video for Girl Gone Wild which was banned for under-18s by YouTube for its inappropriate content.
...The Daily Mail's Liz Jones said earlier this week: 'Im embarrassed for Madonna she is letting the side down. Memo to the postmenopausal: forget the fashion mantra of only exposing one erogenous zone at a time. After 50 you have no erogenous zones. Accept it. Move on. Cover up.'
MTV also banned her Erotica video in 1990, and in 1989, she sang Like a Prayer for a Pepsi commercial which, within 48 hours of the much-hyped worldwide premiere, was pulled and never screened again after a backlash from U.S. religious groups.
The Truth or Dare perfume ad comes 20 years after the similarly titled 1991 documentary Madonna: Truth or Dare and 1992 release of the controversial coffee table book, Sex, on which she collaborated with Fabien Baron.
Mr Baron also had a hand in the video advertisement for the new perfume in which Madonna sings: 'I know I shouldn't act this way, I know good girls don't misbehave, but I'm a bad girl.'
Despite the suggestive content of the ad, the fragrance was concocted as a tribute to the singer's mother who died of breast cancer in 1963.
Madonna explained in a statement: 'My oldest memory of my mother is her perfume. I carry it with me everywhere. She always smelled like Gardenias and Tuberose. An intoxicating mixture - feminine and mysterious.'
Initially available exclusively at Macy's for the month of April, Truth or Dare will launch globally in May.
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Madonna's Material Girl clothing line now available in Britain Times of India - 1 hour ago Madonna's Material girl fashion range will be available online for British shoppers from September this year. MADONNA AIMS TO BE BRITAIN'S MATERIAL GIRL Express.co.uk
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From rollingstone.com
Madonna's Material Girl Line Unveils Georgia May Jagger Campaign
As Madonna cruises around the world on her sold-out MDNA tour, her youthful Macy's clothing line (co-created with her daughter, Lourdes) welcomes a new model: Georgia May Jagger, daughter of Mick. Shot backstage at Madonna's tour rehearsal at Nassau Coliseum in New York, Jagger's ads sponge up the backstage milieu, with the model cast as a young performer lounging between sets. She flashes a moody smile - a Mick-endowed smirk with an infamous gap that clearly mirrors Madonna's own - as she sports ensembles that bridge typical 2012 streetwear with doses of Madonna and Lourdes' own style.
Material Girl's latest collection is also heavy on what passes as "rock & roll" flair, with leather jackets, boots and jeans figuring heavily into its staple looks. The choice of Jagger as the brand's new poster girl is rather fitting, given her royal rock lineage and reputation as a young bright thing in the modeling world. Plus, it all comes naturally to the 20-year-old: "I had so much fun shooting this campaign," the model said in a release. "I spent a lot of my childhood backstage hanging out around amps, so this photo shoot brought back a lot of memories."
Meanwhile, she's earned Madonna and Lourdes' stamp of approval. "We think Georgia May has great style and perfectly captures the energy and free spirit of the Material Girl Fall line," they praise in a statement. Perhaps in Jagger, they've found their true muse, and she will go on to outlast former rock-loving Material Girl campaign faces Taylor Momsen and Kelly Osbourne. Even more significantly, perhaps she will advance even further and become Madonna's muse for Truth or Dare, the singer's more mature, upcoming women's clothing and accessories collection.
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The hag has gone topless in her latest perfume ad.
Madonna goes topless for her new perfume ad - is that her real rack?
Her face is bizarre. I think she's had cheek implants and fillers, and that partial-facelift that people were talking about a couple of years ago. She is just strange looking now.
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I hate to admit, but Madge looked okay before her 'Confessions' album. Before that, she looked like a human being. Starting at Confessions and after, she now has that old hag look, LOL.
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Whoever wrote this is really stretching. Duck Dynasty has little to nothing to do with Madonna.
But yes, she did film a commercial for Pepsi in the late 1980s.
Duck Dynasty and Madonna - In April 1989, the Pepsi Corporation announced that it was canceling plans to broadcast a television commercial that featured Madonna, then arguably the most popular singer in the world.
Madonna had released the music video for "Like a Prayer" a month earlier, and was entering a $5 million ad blitz with Pepsi.
The corporation faced relentless pressure from Reverend Donald Wildmon to end its relationship with the controversial singer, and eventually caved to the pressure.
The "Like a Prayer" video featured stigmata and burning crosses, but no specific derogatory terminology toward any group.
This was far from Wildmon's first religious protest.
Throughout the '70s, he and his American Family Association protested dozens of targets including: Disney World for not preventing LGBT community groups from hosting "gay days" at the theme park; the film The Last Temptation of Christ, for its controversial take on Jesus Christ; and popular TV shows like M*A*S*H* and Dallas for "promoting immoral lifestyles."
Wildmon convinced General Mills, Dominos Pizza and Ralston-Purina to pull ads from Saturday Night Live, because the show didn't comply with Wildmon's vision of "Biblical ethic of decency" for America.
If you were involved in American popular culture in any way and you had a different take on Christianity from Wildmon, chances are he was protesting you.
This public history of demanding "political correctness" and obedience from television networks adds thick irony to the Phil Robertson Duck Dynasty drama.
Wildmon has retired, no doubt terrorizing some random retirement home for airing HBO, but his son Tim has taken over the AFA, and is leading the charge in defense of Robertson.
The AFA and similar groups have claimed that Robertson's religious freedoms have been impinged and that A&E should have no problem with their bearded star comparing homosexuality to bestiality among other things. [Note from Flea: Robertson did not compare homosexuality to bestiality.]
Sarah Palin and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal have gotten a lot of ink for their A&E slams, but they're sideshows in this dispute. Palin is a professional quitter who never saw a microphone she didn't like, and Jindal is the most unpopular governor in America, still best known for of one of the most awkward speech entrances in recent political history.
Carnival barking politicians aside, it's groups like Wildmon's AFA that will keep this fire blazing. As their past lobbying success with television networks shows, this a fervent group that often gets what they want.
If there's one thing everybody can agree on about Phil Robertson, it's that he's honest. His refusal to filter himself, even a little bit, is what made Duck Dynasty so popular and what will also probably cost him his job. Robertson has a right to say whatever he wants, but he doesn't have the right to be on TV.
The Wildmon family and groups like the American Family Association are not honest. Their interpretation of religious freedom and freedom of speech depend on the speaker. They abhor "political correctness" when Phil Robertson is suspended for bashing gays, but when it's Madonna, or Ludacris, or any of dozens of other pop culture stars that they don't agree with, it's a different story.
If there's anybody in today's society who has proven to be ethically dishonest, it's groups like these.
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I saw yesterday an article on polish forum onet.pl It said something about her old naked photos, I suppose from erotica era, can be worth dozens of thousands dollars!!! Whoever measured such price must be mentally ill. Another one who buys it for any money.
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Madonna Releases Promo Video For MDNA Skin Care Line: WATCH
Madonna Introduces MDNA Skin Care Line With Trippy Video: Watch It Now! - After announcing the launch of her MDNA skin care line in February, the Material Girl has released a personal message for the beauty products -- and it's a doozy.
In a black-and-white video with eery music playing in the background, Madonna, 55, says, "Having good skin is important to me but so are other things." Perhaps she's referring to lying in a bathtub fully clothed or wearing back-seam pantyhose -- as the video is full of shots of Madonna doing both.
And it's not just Madonna's, er, choreography that has Us puzzled; her voiceovers explain very little about her new line. "I've spent hours on it. Months on it. Years on it. MDNA," she says in the video. "Transformation. Enigmatic. Substance. Connection. Revolution. Spirit. Intuition. Magic. Mystical. Ambition. Infinity. Immortal."
The three-part skin care line created with MTG beauty company consists of a Chrome Clay Mask, Skin Rejuvinator, and The Serum. But stateside fans are out of luck: MDNA is currently only being sold in Japan.
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Some of the poses for the photos are identical to poses Madonna has used in previous album or perfume/clothing/hand bag ads
Madonna Stars in New Versace Ad Campaign
Madonna, 56, replaces Lady Gaga, 28, as face of Versace's new fashion campaign ... with Donatella hailing singer as a 'true icon' - Photographed in New York City by Mert Alas & Marcus Piggott
Aims to focus on Madonna's 'unique and iconic image' This is the Hung Up singer's fourth campaign for the brand
Even after 30 years in the industry, Madonna is still in hot demand. Indeed, Versace has snapped up the 56-year-old to be the face of its SS15 campaign. The iconic pop star replaces Lady Gaga, 28, to front the brand and was chosen because designer Donatella Versace believes she is a 'true icon'.
The images, which were photographed in New York City by industry heavyweights Mert Alas & Marcus Piggott, aim to focus on Madonnas 'unique and iconic image'.
The campaign was shot to capture the unapologetic and timeless power of Madonna today, according to the luxury fashion house.
Of course, Madonna is dressed head-to-toe in pieces from the SS15 Versace collection and showcases her toned body in the imagery. Speaking about her new role, Madonna said: 'Its always exciting to be dressed head-to-toe in Versace and experience first-hand Donatellas vivid imagination and passion that she has created for this collection. She's still in "hot demand?"
I don't get that vibe. Maybe in the mid 80s, yes, but now? No.
Madonna scores new campaign for Versace
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Another thing the crone should put away ... even if Donatella wants to pat the puppy.
Insecure bully, as usual. Because if Madge played nice to Gaga like she does to Miley, Katy, etc. she'd be a crashing bore.
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...wow those Versace pics are photoshopped beyond belief...they must have used some exotic secret souped-up version of photoshop technology assisted by the CERN Hadron Collider to doctor up those hands and face....
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I can only imagine how many clips for clothes they have attached to her during this photo session.
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Blue Tiger - your sig line keeps partially covering up posts below it. Would you consider making it smaller or going without it? Several other people's sig lines have been doing the same thing. ------------------ I suppose this could also fit in the "Not A Material Girl Huh" thread
She refers to herself as "an artist" in these quotes. She is not, nor has she ever been, an artist.
Jay Z, Madonna, Kanye and many more A-list artists named as co-owners of new music streaming service Tidal- ASSOCIATED PRESS Monday, March 30, 2015, 7:25 PM
NEW YORK Madonna, Rihanna, Beyonce and Jay Z are among the A-List musicians who are co-owners of Tidal, a streaming service being billed as the first artist-owned platform for music and video.
Kanye West, Daft Punk, Alicia Keys, Jack White and Nicki Minaj also announced at an event Monday in New York City that they are co-owners of the streaming service that quietly launched in October.
Keys said the artists hope Tidal will "forever change the course of music history" and ensure the viability of the industry.
...Details about the streaming service were vague.
The membership-based servicesimilar to subscription service Spotifywill provide music and exclusive video content that users can stream on computers, tablets and smartphones or listen to offline. It is being offered at two price points: about $10 for standard sound quality and $20 for "lossless high fidelity sound quality."
The venue for the event was transformed to display a walkway paying tribute to the different decades in music, starting with the 1950s.
Calvin Harris and Coldplay's Chris Martin, who both appeared via video, are also co-owners.
"Our mission goes beyond commerce, it goes beyond technology. Our intent is to preserve music's importance in our lives," Keys said. "Music is the language of love, of laughter, of heartbreak, of mystery. It's the world's true, true, without question, universal language." Jay-Z To Relaunch His New Tidal Music Service Today With Madonna, Kanye, Daft Punk Exclusives In Tow
Jay Z, Rihanna, Madonna, Kanye West attend launch of Tidal streaming service
Madonna On Jay Z Tidal Illuminati Rumors: It's The "Highest Of Compliments"
Jay Z, Madonna, Nicki Minaj And Other Artists Announce New Streaming Service, Tidal
Madonna insists Tidal will protect music - 'Tidal is not about greed!' Madonna insists artist owned streaming platform will protect music
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PUBLISHED: 15:26 EST, 31 March 2015 | UPDATED: 16:03 EST, 31 March 2015
With one leg mounted on the table and the other firmly on the ground, Madonna signed as co-owner of Tidal in a truly convincing fashion.
Joined onstage by fellow gods and goddesses of the music industry, the 56-year-old icon helped launch the first ever artist-owned music streaming platform in New York on Monday night.
She took to Instagram and Twitter after the event to clarify the vision of the star-studded service: 'Tidal is not about consumption and greed! Its about protecting an art-form that is beloved to all of us MUSIC! <span class="EmojiInput mj40" title="Heavy Black Heart ❤"></span>️#rebelhearts stand together for what they believe in!'
The coalition is made up of some of the highest profile and highest paid stars in the music industry.
Spearheaded by Jay-Z the stream-team includes Beyonce, Rihanna, Jack White, Daft Punk, Alicia Keys, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Usher, members of Arcade Fire, and a host of others.
'Right now they're writing the story for us. We need to write the story for ourselves,' Jay-Z said on the Tidal launch video. Having sold more than a million records in his lifetime, Forbes estimated the musician/producer to have a net worth of $520 million.
Speaking at a Tidal meeting, Madonna said, 'It's about putting art back into the forefront. It's about bringing humanity back to being artists, not technology. Art. Human art.'
Tidal aims to rival Spotify and other platforms by streaming music and videos directly from the artist to the audience. The service is set for a monthly subscription fee of $9.95 standard or $19.99 for 'lossless-quality' sound, while the premium service in the UK will be set at Ł20.
Madonna, whose music can be accessed on Spotify and Google Play for free or purchased on iTunes for $1.29 per song, posted on Instagram: 'remember nothing is for free!'
In reference to the digital distributors and streaming providers the Grammy winning singer said: 'They're the carrier, we're the artists. Somehow things shifted and we went into the background and it has to come forward.'
The stars took to social media leading up to the launch, using the promotional hashtag #TIDALforALL.
Madonna changed her cover photo to the Tidal banner, while others used a blank blue slide for their avatars - meant to represent the 'changing of tides.'
Hoping to make history and revolutionize the music industry by putting music back into the hands of the artist, Rihanna posted the blue slide on Instagram and said: 'NAVY, turn the tide
#MakeMusicHistory #TurnitBlue #TIDALforALL.'
Along with allowing artists to immediately upload new tracks, the artists will directly profit from their material through Tidal.
By offering exclusive events, music and videos to be streamed to members on computers, tablets and smart phones, the co-owners express that it will put them in touch with their audience and cut out the middleman providers.
Calling music the world's first true universal language, Alicia Keys said, 'that is what Tidal will be. A place for connection between artists and fans,'
While social media served as a great promotional platform for Tidal, it also allowed for all kinds of feedback as some responses included criticizing accusations that the stars just want more money for themselves.
Some went as far as accusing the power-packed group of representing the Illuminati. To this Madonna responded by posting a picture of the blank blue slide and writing: 'If you refer to Tidal as Illuminati, you are paying us the highest of compliments.'
'As I've stated before it is another name for "The Enlightened Ones" a group of scientists, philosophers and artists that emerged after the dark ages. They changed and shaped the world for the better! Do the research and find out for yourself! #knowlwdge is power ️#rebelheart'
The world-renown singer will be travelling internationally with her Rebel Heart Tour starting in Miami, Florida in August 29th.
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Those people are too far up in the stratosphere for me to be impressed with this.
Maybe it'll be the next MTV or Apple or at least Bitcoin. Then again, it'll flop like Heaven's Gate (the movie, not the cult).
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Mar 31 2015, 08:18 PM
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Anything to take the attention away from her failed album.
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Mar 31 2015, 09:54 PM
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Desperately Seeking Clarity
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Does she or any of those artists okaying this realize they'll lose more of their royalties signing up for that site?
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Mar 31 2015, 10:50 PM
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How Jay Z's Tidal Press Conference Showed He's Out of Touch - Jokes aside, the celebrities at the Tidal launch press conference did a remarkably poor job of elucidating why the consumer accustomed to getting music for free should begin paying for it.
In the age of Spotify, it is entirely legal to listen to music constantly and never spend money on it. Countering that fact with the moral claim that celebrities would prefer if you didnt stream music for free only makes sense if you believe celebrities should get everything they want, one hundred percent of the time. The Problem With Tidal Isn't Price It's Almost Everything Else
3 Reasons Why Jay Z's Tidal Could Change the Streaming Service Game
Pretty much everyone thinks Tidal is destined to fail
except for Jay Z
Why Musicians Who Sign Up With Jay Z's Tidal Probably Won't Earn More, Yet - "The notion they will get subscribers to pay $20 a month for high fidelity is highly unlikely," said Barnes, whose trade group represents 9 companies that sell digital media, including Apple, Amazon.com, Microsoft, Pandora, Slacker, Sony, Google/YouTube, Live365 and Rhapsody.
... "When you look at [Tidal's] particular business models, [Jay Z's] business model doesn't differ dramatically from what's already out there," said Barnes. Though in addition to listening to music, Tidal will perhaps offer a more "immersive experience," with more artist content, such as behind-the-scenes videos and stories behind the albums, Barnes said.
Schlogel told the Times that a majority of Tidal company shares would be set aside for artists, but declined to give specifics. Though some artists may have ownership in Tidal, their record labels will still dictate the terms in which their recordings are sold, Barnes said. The master recording copyright is typically owned by the record label and recording artist; while the composition copyright is often owned by the songwriter and music publisher.
Tidal says it has agreements with "all major record companies, Universal, Warner and Sony, as well as many of the smaller independent companies," according to its website. Rihanna, Alicia, Madonna and Beyonce are worth $1bn - now they've hatched a plan to make even MORE cash from their songs
Excerpt - Music streaming service Tidal is the brainchild of rapper Jay Z, 45
It was branded 'greedy,' 'cynical,' and 'money grabbing' on Twitter
Streaming allows fans to listen to songs without downloading them
Tidal charges a minimum of Ł9.99 a month for access to its huge library --------------------------- But it seems their attempts to make waves in the music industry turned into a flood... of complaints.
Despite being backed by showbusiness superstars, Tidal was the most talked about topic in the world on Twitter yesterday, with thousands branding it greedy, out of touch, cynical and money grabbing.
Many critics said they felt cheated thinking the stars had gathered to launch a new charity campaign rather than a project to swell their bank accounts even further.
The music streaming service is the brainchild of rapper Jay Z, 45, who along with his wife Beyoncé, 33, is worth almost $1billion (Ł676million). Streaming enables fans to listen to songs or watch music videos online, without having to buy or download them permanently on to their computers.
Such services have vast libraries of songs, with one of the most popular firms Spotify boasting more than 30million tracks to listen to. But Spotify and other competitors provide their services for free offering musicians a nominal amount for including their tracks on their libraries. Many of the worlds leading musicians are now starting to turn against such deals, saying they are not earning enough from them.
... The stars also used Twitter to raise the profile of the project using the hashtag TIDALforALL but faced an immediate backlash online.
One person tweeted: I legit thought #TIDALforALL was some sort of save the world campaign, not a streaming service to make millionaire artists richer.
Another added: Something very wrong with presenting capitalistic ventures like #TIDALforALL as social justice movements.
A third wrote: Im still mad about #TIDALforALL! Those artists are filthy, money grabbing, selfish, disgusting human beings! It makes me mad... Tidal is a markedly different approach to that taken by some other artists. In 2012, British newcomer Ed Sheeran tweeted: Eternal love for anyone that owns a copy of + [the name of his first album], however you got hold of it, legal or illegal, thank you for enjoying it.
In 2007, the band Radiohead released their album In Rainbows online and allowed fans to pay whatever they wanted for it. Madonna defends Jay-Zs new Tidal streaming service - Madonna has defended Jay-Zs new streaming service Tidal amid allegations the company has been designed to line the pockets of wealthy artists instead of providing a better experience for fans.
Stars including Beyonce, Kanye West and Rihanna helped the rapper launch the subscription streaming service on Monday, and they have all been heavily promoting the brand on social media.
The co-ordinated effort sparked a backlash from fans, who accused the musicians of using social media activism techniques to plug a money-making scheme, while critics have also accused Tidals celebrity backers of jumping onboard the service simply because it will earn them more profits than other outlets.
Madonna has now addressed the criticism in a post on Instagram.com, writing, Tidal is not about consumption and greed! Its (sic) about protecting an art form that is beloved to all of us music! #rebelhearts stand together for what they believe in (sic)!.. Everything will be explained and revealed in time! Have faith! And remember nothing is for free! This is a universal law. Somewhere-Somehow-Someone has to pay. There is always an exchange.
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Julia Griggs
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Mar 31 2015, 11:23 PM
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Man, what a gang bang it must be - pun intended.
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