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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 21 2006, 01:45 AM (7,508 Views) | |
| flea dip | Jun 21 2006, 01:45 AM Post #1 |
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Since some fans and writers continually bring up the fact that Idiot has been in show business for twenty some odd years (and we're supposed to be impressed by this for some reason), I thought why don't we start naming others who have been in show business for as long (or longer)? Man-donna's fame began in 1983 or there-abouts with her self-named debut record. Considerations: > I don't know if we should only count people from Man-donna's era or what. Personally, I don't have a problem with pointing to other famous personalities who are not of her era > or ones who are deceased. > I don't see why we have to necessarily limit this to female solo singers, either. Fame is fame, celebrity is celebrity. > I also don't have a problem with using celebrities who are arguably not household names anymore, such as actress Jean Harlow. Still, Harlow is known by some, and she was pretty big in her day. U2 and Elton John have been around and making records since the 1970s, and that's longer than Man-donna. |
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| Former Fan | Jun 21 2006, 07:25 AM Post #2 |
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I was thinking about this recently, performers who have been around longer than Madonna and don't get as much recognition. My favorite band Depeche Mode: first album released in 1980, 26 year career, now on successful world tour. I've heard them be called synth-rock pioneers, which they are, but not Legends, like with Madonna. They're still referred to as "the EIGHTIES band Depeche Mode"! I think Hall and Oates have been releasing albums since the 1970s, and they still go on tours. Chicago is on tour now. They've been releasing albums since the 70s (I think). Cyndi Lauper, been around 20+ years. I think Janet Jackson's music career hits the twenty year mark this year. |
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| Tonygirl | Jun 21 2006, 12:38 PM Post #3 |
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Hitler, Napoleon, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Hussein, Genghis Khan, Nero, Cardinal Richelieu, and many others will have their names famous for many more centuries. (Not to mention one of her heroes, Che "Murderer" Guevara). Is their point that only talented, great people are in the news for at least 20 years? Color me unimpressed. On the other hand, others who are too famous for many many years lose their minds and become freaks of nature. Michael Jackson and Madonna anyone? |
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| flea dip | Jun 21 2006, 10:12 PM Post #4 |
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^ Absolutely! A few other names that fit our category: James Dean, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, Barbra Streisand (whether you like her politics or not, and I do not ), Tina Turner, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Lana Turner, George Jones, Duran Duran, Dolly Parton, Hank Williams Jr.Clara Bow* isn't so well known now, but she was WAY, WAY famous in the 20s/30s. Bow was the first American celebrity to be very open about sexuality in the movies... she had the public/movie persona of being kind of brazen, tough, opinionated, etc. Bow was talked about much the same way Madonna was, as a trail blazing, feminist, powerful female, defying stereotypes etc. etc. In her private life, Bow juggled different boy friends at once, including one of her directors. However, Bow had acting talent, something which Manny lacks. I'll add anymore names as I think of them. --------------- * The Clara Bow Page Page about Clara Bow |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Jun 22 2006, 02:53 PM Post #5 |
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Cher, Billy Joel, too... |
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| flea dip | Jul 14 2006, 04:34 PM Post #6 |
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Aerosmith. Janet Jackson:
~~ July 15, 2006 EDIT ~~ This was on Drowned Madonna, but I don't see where they got this information from. She used to be a member of Shalamar, a group that began in the 1970s, and she had several big hits in the mid/late 1980s. Jody Watley:
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| flea dip | Jan 3 2007, 09:18 AM Post #7 |
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Knight posted this story in a separate thread, but I thought it was good for this thread, too. Yes, the guy (Mozart) has been dead for approximately 215 years, and people still listen to, perform, and enjoy his music. Madonna's 20-some odd years in the music biz pales by comparison. Not to mention some of her 20+ years haven't been so great - for example, the American Life album bombed, and the rap in the title song was horrible. So 20+ years at something doesn't necessarily mean that a person will produce brilliant works in all those years. Then you have a few years where Madonna didn't make any albums at all (and no movies, plays, concerts, or videos). I think the Beatles (as a group or as solo artists) started out with some great music ("I want to hold your hand" etc.) but then went downhill with all the psychadelic / hippie-ish, 1970s+ garbage. The lesson again - being really famous and having a long career doesn't make one immune from churning out crap. Move over Madonna, Mozart's No. 1 Mozart festival coda: a posthumous debut
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| flea dip | Mar 25 2007, 01:54 AM Post #8 |
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I'm watching Entertainment Tonight, and they just mentioned that Diana Ross has been in show biz for FIFTY years. They aLso just mentioned that Ross has a new album coming out. |
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| flea dip | Mar 27 2007, 05:13 AM Post #9 |
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Marilyn Monroe's influence on fashion shows some still like it hot
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| Sefronia777 | Apr 2 2007, 12:12 PM Post #10 |
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Well, yes it is a bunch of bs about her being in the business for twenty years...some people are smarter and just sit back and re release things and go on tour every once in a while to whet the public's appetite for them. I am thinking of Robert Plant and Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin fame. Those guys could walk out tomorrow and tour, old, no big stage settings, no yoga poses, but they would make a ton of money. More than 20 years: Frank Sinatra Duran Duran Prince Greta Garbo Elvis Al Pacino and the list goes on.....hmmm.....Greta Garbo, and Monroe, Dietrich and DiMaggio.....LOL It was nice to see a reference to one of the divine ladies who started cinema, Clara Bow! :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: |
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| flea dip | Aug 10 2007, 08:14 PM Post #11 |
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Ella Fitzgerald on Album Chart After 38 Years
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| anshirk | Aug 13 2007, 03:59 AM Post #12 |
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madonna go away
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Didn't anybody listen to the folk singer Gordon Lightfoot, he was touring since last year. his music is way better then some of the crap thats being broadcasted nowadays . He hails from Canada , http://gordonlightfoot.com/Home.asp see his longetivity. My Webpage <a href='http://gordonlightfoot.com/albums.shtml' target='_blank'>http://gordonlightfoot.com/albums.shtml</a> i use to have the album Endless Wire while i was looking for the sight above, i also came across (remember?) Buffy Saint Marie Perry Como |
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| flea dip | Aug 13 2007, 05:25 PM Post #13 |
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My brother was into Gordon Lightfoot about 15 years ago. Jimmy Buffet is another singer who's been around for a long time, and he still puts on shows. The rock band Kiss goes back to the 1970s, and they sometimes still put on shows. Cyndi Lauper, a peer of Man-donna's, still puts out records and goes on tours. She just toured recently, as a matter of fact. Van Halen is getting back together, and I think they got their start in the 1970s. I'm willing to bet there are scores and scores of country singers and bands recording today who got their start in the 1960s and 1970s who are still performing and/or recording, such as Crystal Gale, Barbara Mandrell, Dolly Parton, Hank Williams Jr., etc. The country band Alabama was around for a long time, going back to the 70s and releasing albums in the 1980s. I don't know if they still record. The Oak Ridge Boys go way back and still perform. The Eagles were around in the 1970s, don't know how long they recorded, but some of their members went on to have long music careers on their own, such as Don Henley. So really, Madonna isn't unique in the longevity category, so I don't know why journalists frequently cite her as an example as though she's remarkable for this. |
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| thatgillanwoman | Aug 13 2007, 10:17 PM Post #14 |
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Cyndi Lauper is unique....she doesn't allow lyp-sincing (sp?) in her concerts..that's why Britney cancelled. |
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| The 1 Not Fooled | Aug 16 2007, 06:57 PM Post #15 |
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I heard that, too, about Cyndi. Now there's a talent! (FWIW, I like Gordon Lightfoot myself. I've got one of his CD's in my car.) |
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| flea dip | Sep 3 2007, 10:25 AM Post #16 |
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We mentioned Mozart above. Now there's this (From Madonna Tribe):
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| Mihoshi Marie | Sep 4 2007, 01:00 AM Post #17 |
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And of course, the hag's fans have completely skewered the poll so that she's at 93% (poor Mozart is at only 7%). I absolutely refuse to believe that there are THAT many stupid people on this earth, so as I noted earlier, this poll has probably been spammed by her idiotic fans. How she can be more of a visionary than Mozart is beyond me. He is the sole composer of his works and there is a lot of it too - of which has stood the test of time. She's done fluffy pop music that a blindfolded monkey could compose. And she didn't even compose her biggest hits - those were written and composed by someone else! Furthermore, her other ventures - most notably her acting - have all been either failures or very mediocre compared to her music career. Mozart was composing at the same age Madonna was probably pooping her pants. I mean, please, it's no contest. |
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| Tonygirl | Sep 4 2007, 08:37 AM Post #18 |
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Mozart was writing his piano pieces at age 5. I believe he wrote an opera at about 11. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't take that poll seriously. Anyone reading it knows it's skewed and that her fans wouldn't know the difference between Mozart and Beethoven. They probably couldn't tell a Mozart concerto from a Herman's Hermits song...but they could tell you what color the font was on the Japanese release of some obscure Madonna 45. They will grow up to be such interesting conversationalists at parties... |
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| anshirk | Sep 6 2007, 12:14 AM Post #19 |
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Much more interesting data of Beethoven and Mozart. There was no such thing as re-invention in those days . They were the ones who kinda invented the music. http://www.empire.k12.ca.us/capistrano/Mik...en/beethove.htm Read on , Mozart died pennyless, Beethoven became deaf. This article is simple and nice .These people were great artists. mandonna wouldn't have any knowledge of these experts . We must give respect to them and acknowledge their contribution to music . ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx not compare with a female who goes around naked hitch-hiking on the highway and poses in a three-sum with naomi and have a mans hand shoved between her legs in her cu nt (in her sex book). Shes the expert in the blow job. what an insult. |
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| Tonygirl | Sep 6 2007, 12:56 PM Post #20 |
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Plus those REAL composers weren't in it for the money. THEY were artists. |
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