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Topic Started: Jul 28 2006, 01:16 AM (569 Views)
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Jul 28 2006, 01:16 AM
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Maybe I'll use this thread later as a general one to rip on Democratic politicians who get on my nerves, and rename it. For now...
I saw this exchange on the news a couple of hours ago where John F. Kerry was being a butthead to Bolton.
At one point, Kerry asked Bolton why didn't he push for bi-lateral talks with North Korea, rather than continue with the plans for a 6-nation talk?
Um, excuse me, but isn't this the same Kerry who suggested during his run for president that any and all actions the United States wants to carry out should first be run past the UN and receive UN approval?
How can a person such as that (one who doesn't believe the USA should act alone/make decisions alone) then turn around and insist the US go it alone with North Korea?
Senate committee debates Bolton renomination
Democrats and the UN's Axis of Obstruction
Excerpt: - By far the most absurd line of questioning came from John Kerry. Bush's once and maybe future opponent evidently shares his party's habit of mistaking the process of diplomacy for results.
Echoing Madeleine Albright and Howard Dean, he chastised Bolton (and by extension, Bush) for not continuing Clinton's appeasement of North Korea. Fortunately, Bolton was having none of it:
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Kerry: Why not engage in a bilateral one [negotiation] and get the job done? That's what the Clinton administration did.
Bolton: Very poorly, since the North Koreans violated the Agreed Framework almost from the time it was signed.
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Oct 31 2006, 11:28 AM
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John F***ing Kerry strikes again. It's all over You Tube, he was speaking at a college, and said this: "If you study and work hard you can go far. If not, you wind up in Iraq." Thanks for insulting everyone in the military, jackass. This is more of the Left's belief that only idiots and hicks and dropouts are in the military. My husband has 3 degrees (more than Kerry) and brings home about 60K, we have all the medical we want, tax free shopping, our house paid for by the Army, and we will still get all that after he retires. Sounds like success to me. We're going back to Hawaii in April, only paying 100 bucks a night on Waikiki in an exclusive military complex, we can fly free on Space-A if we want and have the time, but I guess James is a failure because he joined the Army in '82 and didn't go into politics and cuss out vets at the Wall in DC, or marry into incredible wealth.
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Oct 31 2006, 07:19 PM
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I came on to the board this evening to post this very story! I hope you don't mind it if I merge it later with this thread: U.S. Liberals Don't Support U.S. Troops or in the John F. Kerry thread.
The first thread linked to above? If you want to get your blood boiling again, see the numerous examples I've cited in that thread of other far left Democrats who've disparaged our troops. - Lady Chadwick
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My husband has 3 degrees (more than Kerry) and brings home about 60K, we have all the medical we want, tax free shopping, our house paid for by the Army, and we will still get all that after he retires. Sounds like success to me.
My dad has two college degrees and earned a 6 figure income while on active duty - (he was in for over 30 years) - I have a cousin who is in the Navy, got a medical degree, and is now a doctor.
My brother was in the military and was earning $60,000+ a year.
I think one of the reasons the Democrats (at least the far left ones - not all Democrats are anti-military, but there are a lot who are) misrepresent our military personnel as being stupid is that it lends itself to one of their anti-military / anti-Republican arguments, which is -
- that meanie, nasty, heartless Republicans force things so that their rich, white sons don't have to serve, but the dumb, hick white guys and poor, dumb black people are "forced" to serve because they can't get an income otherwise.
The Dems also like to dredge up the draft - which is funny because we have a volunteer military and only Democrats have been talking about reinstating the draft (I think Murtha may have been one; I posted about it a year ago), not Republicans.
Anyway, Kerry's latest tactic is to say, "I was not referring to our troops! I was talking about the President's administration which he darn well knows!"
Links about the story:
Support the Troops By Calling Them Idiots! - page also has a You Tube video of Kerry's speech. - This is the man they nominated for president based on his military credentials. This is how many people get the feeling most liberals feel about the military. John Kerry's just dumb enough to actually say it.
If my commenters OMNA and Support Cell are out there, I'd love to hear you chime in on this. How did it feel to be "stuck in Iraq" due to your lack of education, OMNA? Grrr, what an idiot this guy is.
Not only is this a collosally dumb thing to say, in general, but it strikes right at the Dems' weakest point-- a perception of unseriousness, at best, and contempt, at worst, for national security and the people who provide it for us every day.
Michelle [Malkin: conservative pundit] has lots of reaction. Kerry's so good at charging up the base; too bad he always chooses the wrong base.
Update: McCain asks for apology, and it's Drudge headlined. Cue the making amends, which for John Kerry means grabbing a shovel and digging deeper.
How mad do you think folks like McCaskill and Cardin and Jon Tester are right now at John Kerry? I wouldn't get too near any of them, John. Tester, for one, looks like he could put a hurtin' on you.
Update: From one of my liberal commenters (thanks!), here's a link to Kerry's statement on this. He claims the statement was aimed at Bush, not troops. I don't know. Why not just say Bush? He's had no compunction about calling Bush out ever before. And, this isn't the first time he's "mispoken" with regard to American troops, shall we say.
Lefty Taylor Marsh says she has the statement Kerry meant to make, but has no link to text or corroboration of the fact that that's actually the written text beyond her own assertion. Count me verrrrry skeptical. Bush is an easy excuse, here.
Update: Allah notes the bumblingness of the amends making, which I alluded to above. Wow, this guy is bad at this.
There’s more. The nutroots will eat this up with a spoon, of course, but you almost have to pity the poor bastards at the DNC. This is the last thing they want to be talking about this week. Score one more for Lurch’s famous political acumen.
Update: How do you know for dead sure when a political move is the dead wrong one? When the Nutroots [liberal Democrat bloggers] applaud it.
He shoulda just apologized and been done with it. Sure, try the fake Bush excuse out, but apologize, don't berate. You're the one who screwed up.
US military 'plenty smart': Bush hits back - US PRESIDENT George W. Bush today blasted Democratic Senator John Kerry for saying people who neglected their education "get stuck in Iraq" and demanded an apology to troops.
In a bruising throwback to their 2004 war for the White House exactly one week before US legislative elections, Mr Bush called the comment "insulting and shameful'' and Senator Kerry shot back that the charge was "crazy'' and based on a "lie".
Senator Kerry had told a university audience on Monday: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq.'' ....
Kerry digs a deeper hole - An angry Kerry tried to give his supporters and Democrats something to fight back with when he said: “My statement yesterday, and the White House knows this full well, was a botched joke about the president and the president’s people, not about the troops.
“… If anyone thinks that a veteran, someone like me who’s been fighting my entire career to provide for veterans to fight for their benefits, to help honor what their service is, if anybody thinks that a veteran would somehow criticize more than 140,000 troops fighting in Iraq and not the president and his people who put them there, they’re crazy. It’s just wrong….”
But here’s the problem. In his moment of high dudgeon, he may have made matters worse. It probably wasn’t a good idea to accuse everyone who saw the video of his campaign appearance and thought he was disparaging the IQ of U.S. troops of being “crazy.”
Where Kerry says, - "If anyone thinks that a veteran, someone like me ... if anybody thinks that a veteran would somehow criticize more than 140,000 troops fighting in Iraq.. they're crazy... "
Hey, this is the same guy who, back in the 1970s, said our troops are baby rapists and baby killers.
Isn't Kerry the same one who said about a year ago that our troops are "terrorizing" civilian Iraqis by breaking into their homes in the middle of the night?
So, no, I don't put it past Kerry to bad mouth our military now.
Kerry's November Gift to Republicans?
Kerry's Comments
Oh, it was supposed to be a joke. I'm not laughing. Kerry says he "botched joke" and lashes out at GOP
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Nov 1 2006, 12:18 PM
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There's a really good pic on Drudge right now. A bunch of soldiers made up a big Help Us Jon Carry sign, it took a minute but I get it. They are acting like sterotypical "dumb Army goons."
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Nov 2 2006, 04:26 PM
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There's a really good pic on Drudge right now. A bunch of soldiers made up a big Help Us Jon Carry sign, it took a minute but I get it. They are acting like sterotypical "dumb Army goons."
I saw that on Brit Hume last night! Too funny! I'll post links about it below.
What I heard yesterday on the news is that Kerry gave an apology (after he said he would not be apologizing).
However, his apology was not an actual apology! It started out with something such as, "I am truly sorry that people misinterpreted my comments...."
He's not sorry he made the comments, only that (allegedly) some people "misinterpreted" them 
Kerry Apologizes as 'Stuck in Iraq' Firestorm Rages - ABC News
Hillary [Clinton]: Kerry Comment 'Inappropriate'
Will Media Report John Kerry’s History of Amending Misstatements ...
Military bashing and other Democratic blunders - .... This [Kerry's comments] is just another picture of how Democrats view the military.
Rep. Charles Rangel D-NY recently said that our armed forces come from the “lowest economic echelon we have.”
I have some very good friends who were in the military during President Clinton’s reign when he slashed defense and military spending to toothpicks and matchsticks. Their housing was falling down around their ears and cracks between the walls let in all sorts of animals of the eight-legged variety.
... J. Dennis Hastert wrote in a Border Security Bulletin (www.GOP.com) that the Democrats don’t believe in a “Global War on Terror. I don't mean that they don't support it, though they don't. What I mean is Democrats don't believe the war actually exists.
"While Republicans believe the biggest threat to American freedom and security is the evil ideology that planned and executed the murder of 3,000 of our countrymen five years ago, and continues planning today, Democrats think the biggest threat to America is... Republicans.”
John Kerry Lampooned by Troops 'Stuck Hear n Irak'
Guard members react to Kerry goof - A group of soldiers in the Minnesota National Guard is behind a comically misspelled sign mocking recent comments by Sen. John Kerry about people who didn't study in school being "stuck in Iraq."
The photo shows eight soldiers holding a white sign with heavy blue letters spelling out, "Halp us Jon Carry - We R stuck hear n Irak."
... Capt. J. Elaine Hunnicutt, a spokeswoman in the Joint Operations Center in Iraq, confirmed in an e-mail that the soldiers in the photo were from the Minnesota Guard.
"The soldiers' intent in taking this photo was meant as a humorous response to the current debate in the media and the command recognizes it as such," she wrote.
Earlier this week, Kerry, D-Mass., told a group of college students that people who don't study and do their homework were likely to "get stuck in Iraq." Kerry has since apologizing, saying he botched a joke meant to be about President Bush.
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Kerry's 1972 Army comments mirror latest- WASHINGTON - During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to "the perpetuation of war crimes."
.... In 1972, as he ran for the House, he [Kerry] was less apologetic in his comments about the merits of a volunteer army. He declared in the questionnaire that he opposed the draft but considered a volunteer army "a greater anathema."
"I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown," Kerry wrote. "We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply 'doing its job.'
.... Kerry filled out the candidate questionnaire at the request of Massachusetts Political Action for Peace, an anti-war group that decades later turned over its historical documents to university researchers.
AP obtained the document from someone who gathered it from archives during Kerry's unsuccessful 2004 presidential campaign against President Bush. Republicans in that election relentlessly assailed Kerry's role in the anti-war movement decades earlier.
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Nov 27 2006, 06:43 AM
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I already pointed out in another thread that Rangel (a Democrat) has been calling for a reinstatement of the draft. His latest comments are insulting.
The liberals just do not like or respect our servicemen and women.- Rangel (D) Slurs the Military
In the ongoing saga of Charlie Rangel’s tortured rationale for a draft, he came out today with one of those offhanded slurs that show how the left really feels about military service: Video: Rangel says men join the army only if they can’t have “a decent career”. I want to make it abundantly clear: if there’s anyone who believes that these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it.
No young, bright individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits.
And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment. If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.
My dad is a bright guy - he comes with 2 college degrees, for one - he came from a dirt poor family but chose to remain in the military after having been drafted so he could earn a steady income, which turned out to be six figures a year over many years. Not bad.
So Rangel can shove it.
Why do so many on the left continue to depict members of our forces as though they're naive rubes who have been tricked into signing up (especially if they come from disadvantaged/ impoverished families), or as though they're little babies who aren't mature enough to know what they're signing up for when they join the military?
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May 27 2010, 01:26 PM
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Kerry to voters: You’re hypocrites if you’re angry at Washington- by Ed Morrissey
Do you feel angry at Washington for its lack of accountability? Annoyed at your elected representatives for fiddling with the health-care system while the economy burned (failed) to ignite?
Feel a bit put out at the massive amount of spending and debt rolled up by Democrats the last sixteen months?
John Kerry has a message for you, which is that you’re nothing but hypocrites. Or, failing that, you’re just too stupid to comprehend the genius of your elites:
Times are tough, especially among those still looking for good jobs, but Sen. John Kerry doesn’t think Washington’s to blame. In fact the former Democratic presidential candidate, concerned with the anger voters are aiming at Washington, says that his party and President Obama are doing a ship-shape job.
“We’ve come back,” he says of the nation, Wall Street, and the economy. “This is an amazing resurgence.”
Kerry talked about the voter anger during a breakfast sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor called to give him time to pitch his expansive climate and energy bill. He was asked if he’s ever seen such anger with Washington, in part inspired by the Tea Party movement named after the Boston Tea Party in his home state. …
“I think there’s a comprehension gap,” said Kerry. His point: While people may not be feeling the benefits of the bailouts and healthcare reform yet, Congress has been working with Obama to right the economic ship. Still, he sounded sympathetic to those kicked around by the economy. “There’s a sense of some things unraveling” to them, said Kerry.
But he said that the D.C.-directed attacks are hypocritical, since many of those attacking Washington spending presumably want to keep their Social Security and Medicare and want Washington to play a big role in the Gulf Oil cleanup. “There’s a huge contradiction on a daily basis,” he said.
Well, no, it’s not, but it’s no surprise that Kerry thinks they are. This is the same cluelessness that causes Barack Obama to keep talking about the protest sign he (supposedly) saw that said, “Keep government out of my Medicare!”
The expectation from American citizens is that when government programs exist, they should be (a.) run properly, (B.) have accountability, and (c.) deliver on their promised services.
That applies to Social Security and Medicare, as well as the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA. After all, we’re paying for them, and while we are, we expect them to work properly.
The hypocrisy here comes not from voters, but from big-government advocates like John Kerry who promise that government can solve all of these ills, and more. After all, they’re the ones who set the sky-high expectations, and demean and diminish the ability of the private sector to deliver solutions.
The huge contradiction seen by voters on a daily basis comes from advocates of bureaucracies and top-down control who have no answers for their shortcomings — except to promise that even larger government can solve those as well.
The bailouts started over eighteen months ago. Porkulus was enacted over a year ago.
ObamaCare passed two months ago after a series of backroom deals left the details in the dark, and its passage has already resulted in sharp setbacks to employers, some of whom may abandon the provision of health benefits to their employees as a result.
How long exactly are Americans expected to wait before the promised Nirvana of big-government interventions stop making things worse, and where criticism and demands for accountability don’t constitute “hypocrisy”? Two years? Five? Ten? Ever?
Kerry’s insistence that we’re in the middle of an “amazing resurgence” with employment off 8 million jobs since our economic peak earns Kerry the Chip Diller Award:
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