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Topic Started: Dec 1 2005, 03:21 PM (5,997 Views)
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I wish writers would stop comparing each and every new female pop singer to Madonna, asking 'Is she the new Madonna,' or saying, "So-and-so is the new Madonna."

I've seen the phrase or tactic used often enough in the past few years that I think it's become a cliche'. I've discussed this before in other threads, so I'll try to keep this short.

I do appreciate it that in some cases this cliche' works in the Madonna haters' favor, since it's more evidence that the public is tired of her and she's been replaced time and time again by other females.

However, the question presupposes that Madonna is, or should be, the standard by which all other female entertainers should be compared, which I believe is bogus. The media are the ones who set Madonna up as the golden standard back in the 1980s, the public did not really do so.

Are Lady Gaga And Justin Bieber The New Madonna And Michael Jackson?
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This really annoys me as well.

What was the 'old' madonna, exactly? Nothing more than blatant, uninspired rip-offs of almost every successful female performer that blazed an original trail before her, she was.

To say so-and-so is the 'new' madonna is actually quite a slam because, taken literally, it would imply that they are the most shameless, talentless, plagiarist of the day with no qualms about using profanity, obscenity, and blasphemy to make a buck and keep their pathetic face, name, and rear end in the public eye...

Although Lady Gaga isn't above employing those things in the quest and maintenance of her fame, she is arguably more original in style and more talented than either the 'old' or 'new' madonnas could ever hope to be...

...but justin bieber as the 'new' Michael Jackson?!!! Puhhhhleeeeease.........
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I really get annoyed when journalists use that "the new Madonna" crap. It's just lazy. They do that with nearly every single female singer that sings either pop music or dance music. They were saying that about Britney Spears a while ago, and some occasionally mention Christina Aguilera as a Madonna "successor" due to her "image reinventions" and whatnot. They also on occasion call a black female singer the next Janet Jackson, as if both Janet and Madonna are the first ever female singers. It's ridiculous and annoying (even though I like Janet a lot, she's not even the best black female singer ever).
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I saw Bieber trying to sing on some show a few months back and it hurt my earsI wonder if God will take Bieber and give back George Harrison!
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As I was just saying to someone in another thread,
  • One clue that you're in for such an interview [one with barfy, lofty prose about Madonna, or one where Madonna tries to sound intellectual] with Madonna is when she- (or the reporter)- mention that Frida Kahlo is her favorite artist; that she has a Kahlo painting collection; of if the writer mentions that they see a Kahlo paintng hanging in Madonna's home.
I think that's become a little bit of a cliche'.

Over the last two decades, when I've read interviews with or articles about about Madonna, every so often, the writer will open the article by saying, (or when describing Madonna's home or office by mentioning) something like,

"and in the entrance to Madonna's Los Angeles home, in the front hallway above a small table, is one of her many Frieda Kahlo paintings..."

They almost always mention her Kahlo paintings, as though the reader is supposed to be impressed by the fact that she owns one or that she supposedly enjoys or values Kahlo's art.

Like just about anything else, I questions Madonna's sincerity here.

I don't think she genuinely cares about art.

My gut feeling is that she collects the stuff to impress other people, to make them think she's a high brow intellectual, or that her (naive, simplistic) idea of someone who is intellectual and suave is one who appreciates the fine arts, and what better way to "prove" it or display it than by buying a few such paintings?

This coming from a woman who spent years grabbing her crotch and playing with it while performing disco songs on stage.
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Writers often like to compare each and every new singer to Madonna to the point it's become a cliche', and some of them don't enjoy the comparison:

Avril Lavigne - Madonna Comparisons Are Not Welcomed By Avril Lavigne

Avril Lavigne Rejects Madonna Comparisons

Avril Lavigne: Don’t compare me to Madonna
  • By MusicRooms on 07/02/2011

    Avril Lavigne admires Madonna’s longevity in the music industry but dislikes being compared to her.

    The Canadian singer insists she admires Madonna’s ability to continually reinvent herself and juggle her career and family life. However, Avril – who releases her new album Goodbye Lullaby next month – would prefer to be known an individual, rather than be judged against other music stars.

    “I definitely don’t like being compared to other people. Madonna is Madonna and I’m totally different to her,” she told the Kyle and Jackie O radio show. “I think what she has done is really great. She has worked really hard and had a wonderful career and balanced that out really well with having a family.”

    Avril – whose last record was released in 2007 – went on to say she hopes to stay in the industry for as long as 52-year-old Madonna.

    The 26-year-old singer admits she did dream of becoming a worldwide star just like Madonna when she was growing up, but is now focusing on creating her own identity.

    “At one time that is something that I did say. I was like ‘I wanna have a long career and hope to be around like Madonna’ – she’s done movies , she’s done tours and all that stuff and it’s so much fun what I do and I’d love to keep doing this for as long as I can,” she added.

    The singer – who is currently dating The Hills star Brody Jenner – also reflected on when she started out in the industry. Avril confessed she disliked doing interviews and was often withdrawn.

    “I’m a really shy, introverted person and I was very young – I was like a kid – I was 17 on my first record and I was doing interviews and I really did hate doing them, but my record company made me do so many, and I didn’t like it,” she said.

    “All I cared about was singing, right, I’m like this kid and I’m like ‘why have I got to talk to all these people?’ Of course now that I’m older I understand and can have an adult conversation!”
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Reminder:
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Writers often like to compare each and every new singer to Madonna to the point it's become a cliche', and some of them don't enjoy the comparison:

Avril Lavigne - Madonna Comparisons Are Not Welcomed By Avril Lavigne

Avril Lavigne Rejects Madonna Comparisons

Avril Lavigne: Don’t compare me to Madonna
I've posted this in other threads, but here it is again:

Lady Gaga Flattered by Madonna Comparisons

Maybe Gaga is being sincere, but then, maybe not.

I don't know how honest Gaga could be at this point by saying, "I hate the Madonna comparisons," since she was recently mauled in the media for the so-called "Express Yourself" rip off (which Madonna ripped off from Charles Wright).

Even if Gaga hates being compared to Madonna, she's really not in a position (right now) to be totally upfront about it.

I made a few comments below this:
Lady Gaga Flattered by Madonna Comparisons
  • Lady Gaga’s new song "Born This Way" has drawn its fair share of comparisons to Madonna’s 1989 hit "Express Yourself." But in an interview on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno the fashion-forward singer finally spoke out about constantly being compared to "the Queen."

    "There is no one that is more adoring and a loving Madonna fan than me," Gaga said. "I am the hugest fan personally and professionally." Back in 2009, the two divas parodied themselves in a Saturday Night Live sketch, acknowledging their media-inspired "feud" by getting into a comical catfight.

    "The good news is that I got an email from her people and her sending me their love and support on behalf of the single," Gaga continued. "If the Queen says it, it shall be."

    The five-time Grammy winner also clarified that her peculiar entrance ensemble for Sunday night’s awards wasn’t an egg, but a vessel. "I was in it for three days (prior to the show)," she said. "It was temperature controlled."

    All comparisons to Madge aside, Gaga certainly understands the importance of being creative and standing out. We think any empowered, iconic blonde female singers will inevitably be compared to “the Queen,” but as far as we’re concerned, Gaga is well on her way to being pop music royalty herself.
Regarding:
  • We think any empowered, iconic blonde female singers will inevitably be compared to “the Queen...”
Yep, that's what I've been saying all along.

Any and all new female pop/dance singers are doomed to be compared to Madonna.

For how much longer this goes on, I don't know (the sooner it ends, the better).

Maybe when the current crop of 12 year olds reach 30 years old, everyone will have totally forgotten about Madonna.

By the time this group of current 12 year old Gaga fans reach 30 and some new singer comes out, every one will be comparing whoever that new comer is to Gaga and complaining,
"So-and-so is a Gaga rip off! Her new song sounds just like a Poker Face rip-off! And Gaga was totally wearing meat dresses before this new girl was wearing ham skirts!"
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I don't think Minogue likes being compared to Madonna (or to Gaga):

Minogue riled by Gaga comparisons
  • By WENN.COM
    Last Updated: February 22, 2011

    Kylie Minogue gets annoyed when she is accused of ripping off Lady Gaga's outrageous costume ideas - insisting she and the Poker Face star are "totally different".

    The Australian singer is known for her designer stage outfits and lavish productions, but she is adamant she has never looked to Gaga for inspiration.

    Asked if it riles her when she's accused of copying Gaga, Minogue tells Britain's Grazia magazine, "Of course it does. I think she's amazing, but she's a totally different artist to me.

    "Back in the day, I was accused of copying Madonna - but my approach is very different (to hers). If I wear something very sexy, it's usually slightly tongue in cheek. We all have our own thing and mine seems to be hot pants... I couldn't (ditch hot pants) even if I tried, because they are always put in the designs."
Kylie Minogue: I set the benchmark for Lady Gaga

Kylie: 'I set the benchmark for GaGa'

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More Madonna comparisons:

"Charo: 'Lady Gaga is Madonna with diarrhea" :wth:

Regarding this quote by Charo:
  • "I can tell you, to me, Lady Gaga is Madonna with diarrhea...I don't like it when somebody copies somebody and just adopt it. Like, their own idea."
Oh I see, as though Madonna never ever did that herself. :rolleyes2: (Madonna Rips Offs, Video: Madonna Rip Offs)

Madonna copying Marilyn Monroe's Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend scene from the 1950s film Gentlemen Prefer Blondes for her 1985 Material Girl music video and stuff like that never happened in Charo's universe, I guess.

Charo: 'Lady Gaga is Madonna with diarrhea' Examiner.com
  • Charo slammed Lady Gaga in an interview on the Frank DeCaro 'OutQ' show on Sirius XM radio. Charo, the singer and 'Love Boat’ actress, had some pretty serious accusations about Lady Gaga and her music.

    Charo, who in recent years is more familiar to everyone for her appearances on the ‘Jerry Lewis MDA telethon’ every year than her music, went on to blast Gaga for being a Madonna wannabe:

    "I can tell you, to me, Lady Gaga is Madonna with diarrhea...I don't like it when somebody copies somebody and just adopt it. Like, their own idea."

    Lady Gaga has been under extreme fire recently that her No. 1 song 'Born This Way' is a potential rip-off of Madonna's hit song 'Express Yourself.' Gaga went on 'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno' last week and said that she had received a message and that she had Madonna's 'love and complete support' of the single. Madonna's publicist later said that she was 'unaware' of any such letter.

    Was Charo out of line in making these comments about Lady Gaga?
Charo Talks Trash About Lady Gaga Versus Madonna

Hey Charo, Back Off Lady Gaga!

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  • As a Gaga fan, I actually have begun taking a LOT of offense to the assertions that Gaga is directly imitating Madonna. I'm a Madonna fan, too, and yes, I see the on-surface similarities: Gay following, constantly evolving image, blond hair, cone bra, etc. HOWEVER ...

    Madonna does not compose her own music or actually play an instrument, unlike Gaga, who mastered classical piano as a child, after beginning to learn by ear. Madonna is also not as amazingly original as pop purists would have you believe. For instance, think "Vogue" was 100% a Madonna creation? Hell no. She pilfered that directly from the underground gay dance scene of the late '80s in NYC.

    Of course, both artists have been "influenced" by the culture that has come before them or exists around them. My feeling is that Gaga pays tribute and riffs on some of what Madonna and other cultural icons have done in the past 30 years, but she's also more talented in some ways and making her own mark in many other ways. (Also, has Madonna or any other pop queen before Gaga been SO active or outspoken on behalf of some of their most devoted followers, the LGBT community? I didn't think so.) In other words, Charo and any other ignorant naysayers, you need to shush and RESPECT Gaga. She's one in a million.
Charo Insults Lady Gaga

Charo Disses International Pop Sensation! Ay, Caramba!

Charo Has No Love (Boat) for Lady GaGa
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haha! Charo is funny! Let's face it...has ANYONE, part from Lily Allen, ANY female singer in the past 25 years DARED to dislike Madonna? Even a SMALL amount and without the usual "well I love her and she paved the way" disclaimer/barfy butt kissing? They'd lose their career if they did not grovel. I have no doubt many dislike her but are afraid to be honest. Cultural Stalinism.
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haha! Charo is funny!  Let's face it...has ANYONE, part from Lily Allen, ANY female singer in the past 25 years DARED to dislike Madonna? Even a SMALL amount and without the usual "well I love her and she paved the way" disclaimer/barfy butt kissing?   They'd lose their career if they did not grovel. I have no doubt many dislike her but are afraid to be honest. Cultural Stalinism.
Very well put.

Even more annoying is when an entertainer does say something publicly critical about Madonna but later retracts it.

I've seen celebrities criticize Madonna, but then, a few days later, they either apologize, retract it, or they claim their comments were misunderstood, their words were taken out of context, and that they really love Madonna and think she's great.

Then you have celebrities who are totally inconsistent (Elton John is one of those). One moment, they are giving her the thrashing she deserves, but then, a few months later, they're saying how great she is, then they go back to trashing her, then back to saying she's wonderful.

Cher is one of the few female celebrities to say negative stuff about Madonna and never apologize for it.

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Even a SMALL amount and without the usual "well I love her and she paved the way" disclaimer/barfy butt kissing?
It's also become a cliche' (like when critics compare every new singer to Madonna), which is why I started placing links about it in the "cliche" thread.
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Of course, CHER! :laugh: Forgot about that. SHE WAS RIGHT ON! One of the psychotic fans wrote this:
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Her impact on society in a whole is a testament to her value. I am NOT a fan of pop music, but Madonna was and still is the only "pop" star that I follow. And yes, the younger girls should grovel.


Grovel to what? Zero talent? The media and the mange trolls can't get respect the real way so its an overlaying form of manipulation. You could constructively critique or insult ANY other a celebrity (Madonna is not a celebrity, she's simply a media w****) and it would not be a big deal and make just a few waves but if you insult Madonna then people start getting wide eyed and the press flips out.
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Women should "grovel" to Madonna? That is such BS. I am so mad at that I'm shaking a little right now (well, I also need to eat something, lol).

By the time Madonna got her first hit, the "way" for female performers had already been paved by people such as Cher, Stevie Nicks, Tina Turner, Donna Summer, Joni Mitchell, Debbie Harry, Janis Joplin (though the Vadge will never be as talented as her or any of the others) and loads of female singers from the '60s and '70s who are now obscure or retired. These women had it WAY tougher than Madonna did and had to work MUCH harder than she did to become successful.

Plus, all of these women had to rely on their vocal talent and skill. Madonna didn't have to be much of a good singer because she was lucky enough to start her career when music videos became huge thanks to MTV. If MTV hadn't taken off the way it did, she wouldn't have had the career she has now. Anybody could sing the songs she released back in the '80s because most (perhaps all) of those songs were written and composed by other people, and not her.

The only younger singers that ought to "grovel" to Madonna are the ones who employ the same shock tactics she did to get attention. You know, the ones who cannot sing or dance very well, that have to be auto-tuned to within an inch of their lives, who are more known for their crass publicity stunts than their music.
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Girls should not grovel to anyone. Especially not an ex-prostitute her slutted her way into show-bix via sleazy photos, men with connections, and whose only talent seems to be copying off others and showing her crotch in every new photo. Not to mention she's a very snooty b***h. Only cares about herself, I don't care if she DOES pose with orphans in Malawi.
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Very well put.

Even more annoying is when an entertainer does say something publicly critical about Madonna but later retracts it.

I've seen celebrities criticize Madonna, but then, a few days later, they either apologize, retract it, or they claim their comments were misunderstood, their words were taken out of context, and that they really love Madonna and think she's great.

Then you have celebrities who are totally inconsistent (Elton John is one of those). One moment, they are giving her the thrashing she deserves, but then, a few months later, they're saying how great she is, then they go back to trashing her, then back to saying she's wonderful.

Cher is one of the few female celebrities to say negative stuff about Madonna and never apologize for it.

I was just telling Super Amanda that, when today, I saw this interview with Boy George,
  • AE: It's great to hear you compliment Madonna, because there was a period of time when you were pretty critical of her (along with Elton John) in the press, saying that she's despicable and a traitor to her gay fans for subscribing to a homophobic religion.

    BG: I do shudder when I read some of the things I've said, like "What were you thinking?" So now I don't talk unless I have something interesting to say. But I think it was more a reflection of how I felt about myself and so it would come out as a projection. I had no right to do it. It was quite beneath me. I really don't look back on it with pride. When I say funny things, I stand by them, but I'd never say anything like that again.
Why not, if what you've said about her is the truth? Own it, don't back down from it.
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This says that Madonna was NOT among Gaga's influences:

She slipped $10 into DJ's bra with her teeth..and Lady GaGa was born
  • By MARTIN PHILLIPS, Senior Feature Writer

    LADY GAGA is the world's biggest and most outrageous pop star.

    The Italian-American fame monster from New York is frequently compared to Madonna.

    But a new book, GaGa, by Johnny Morgan, features previously unseen photos, probes her early life and reveals the singer's inspiration came from the Brit glam rock stars in her dad's record collection, English disco and a soul mate steeped in Ziggy Stardust and glitter balls.

    In Day One of exclusive extracts from the book, here we tell the early story of Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta.

    .Twenty years later the girl who appeared to many as a blonde, flesh-flashing reincarnation of the original Material Girl was in her first band - but her early performances owed nothing to Madge.

    Instead the future Lady GaGa sang classic Brit rock and based her looks on Amy Winehouse.


    The style would soon change, but the music was already ingrained. "My dad's a Jersey-born Italian so I grew up listening to Springsteen albums that still had sand on them from the Shore," she would later reveal.

    "When I was in high school I was in a cover band that did Zeppelin, Floyd and Jefferson Airplane - that was his brainwashing coming to fruition."

    ...Author Johnny Morgan writes: "Having decided to name themselves SGBand it was decided that all lead vocals would be handled by Stef.

    "She began to favour a look recently made hip by the British singer Amy Winehouse."

    ..."Lady Starlight, a smart, Seventies-obsessed former art student, was at the forefront of the Lower East Side performance art scene.

    "Lady Starlight could - and would - teach Lady GaGa a lot, not only about the kind of musical acts which GaGa hadn't heard her father play as she grew up. But also about the kind of cutting-edge, dramatic, brave entertainers and artists who inspired so many people into changing their lives. Just like Lady GaGa was changing hers."

    They met at Lady Starlight's "English Disco". Starlight recalled: "When we met she ran up to me and we instantly connected. Lady GaGa was in awe of what I was doing and asked me to be on stage with her. We then started blending ideas."
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This:
A lady's image (By JEFF MIERS News Pop Music Critic)
is kind of barfy, in that it makes comments such as,
  • "From Bowie to Siouxsie Sioux and Madonna, musical innovators planted the seeds that helped create Lady Gaga"
and this,
  • Madonna

    Though she wasn't, and still isn't, a musician, Madonna broke down the door for female pop queens with her ability to fuse ridiculously catchy dance-pop to choreographed spectacle. She always has known how to spot a trend just before it explodes into the mainstream. Lady Gaga's most obvious influence, certainly.
But it does at least mention other females in pop/dance/rock such as
  • Siouxsie Sioux

    With Siouxsie and the Banshees, the woman born Susan Janet Ballion married art-rock to the burgeoning English punk scene, and treated her body as a sort of abstract art canvas. You could dance to this deliciously odd music, too, which set it apart from most punk. Similarly, there is an art-rock sensibility apparent even in the most pop-friendly moments in the Gaga ouevre.

    Kate Bush

    Bush brought the influence of modern dance and mime to her stage shows, and her music is simply sublime. Her soprano cut to the quick, and her songwriting, performance, record making and very occasional stage shows married spectacle to considerable musical substance. Calling her the female Bowie isn't going quite far enough. Bush was to music what Madonna was to pop culture. Every significant female artist since Bush owes her props.

    Dale Bozzio

    With Missing Persons, Bozzio looked and sounded like a hot and sexy space alien. Doubtless, Gaga noticed.

    Bjork

    Bjork is more akin to the Bush camp, in that she's a musician first and a flashy performer second. Gaga has not made music that comes close to Bjork's as of yet, at least in terms of creativity, skill and experimentation. But who can forget Bjork's swan outfit? Obviously, Gaga didn't.
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I think this was intended to be humorous, but it kinda made me want to barf:

Beth Ditto and Rihanna have both been inspired by Madonna: who's next?
  • There's a little bit of Madonna DNA in most modern pop stars. Here's who Peter Robinson thinks should be next to 'do a Madge'

    Madonna pretty much invented contemporary pop fame so there is a little bit of her in the DNA of every modern pop thing. That said, there is a rather big bit of her in recent works by Lady Gaga (whose new single references Express Yourself), Beth Ditto (with a video homaging Justify My Love), and Rihanna (for general LaChapelle-inspired sex nonsense). Here's who should be next to cause a comparison …
A copy of this was also placed in the "Mistakes by the Media" thread.
The West Wind: Lady Gaga: Modern Day Madonna
  • Thursday, March 03, 2011
    By Lindsey Tarby

    When GaGa released her newest song, Born This Way, she was called a �Madonna wanna-be�. GaGa�s bizarre fashion also made people believe she was trying to be another Madonna.
Madonna, especially from the 1980s to the early 1990s (even the late 1990s) was not known for "bizarre" fashions, so I have no idea where the author is getting that from.

When Madonna wore her bra on the outside of her shirts in the 1980s (and wore similar things like that), most people considered it not so much "bizarre" as they found it trashy, inappropriate, or slutty.

Cyndi Lauper was known as the "bizarrre" one in the 1980s.

To drive the point home that Lauper was a bit of an eccentric, the name of her first album was called "She's So Unusual," and the cover photo showed Lauper with bright orange hair, dancing in a big, funky dress, sans shoes, on a city sidewalk.

(Madonna's debut album, by contrast, was called, simply, Madonna, and just had a close up, black and white photo of her face.)

In the 1980s, Madonna had some fashion elements in common with Lauper (the two wore the thrift store look, multiple junky bracelets, etc.), but Lauper was more "out there" than Madonna was, like she would dye one side of her hair green and the other orange.

Lady Gaga wore a dress made out of meat a few months ago.

Madonna never did anything even close to that wacko and weird during her career, certainly not during the years where she was most famous and that everyone remembers her for (the mid 1980s).

I think one reason so many people think that Gaga is trying to rip off Madonna is that the media fixated on Madonna to the point that no other female pop singers readily comes to people's minds when they want or need a reference point. It's just as easy to suggest (and more accurate) to say that Gaga is ripping off Grace Jones or Cyndi Lauper, rather than Madonna.
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:sick: More comparisons...

Britney Spears Compares Career To Madonna's

Britney Spears Talks Madonna, Plastic Surgery
  • Britney Spears is fine with the numerous comparisons that have been made between her and Madonna over the course of her career. After all, she tried to mold herself after the star.

    When asked who she tried to emulate when she first started out, Spears answered, "Madonna. No question. She is an amazing entertainer. Besides Madonna, I also admire Sarah Jessica Parker's career and her shoe collection," the singer told Out magazine.
Next story:

Funny, because the photo of Winslet doesn't remind me of Madonna, it reminds me of Jayne Mansfield or Marilyn Monroe:

The new material girl Kate Winslet stays in vogue by recreating the Madonna look
  • By By Anita Singh, Showbusiness Editor 11:44PM GMT 09 Mar 2011

    Looking uncannily like Madonna, this is Kate Winslet in her latest role as a beauty icon.

    The actress is the face of Lancome, the French cosmetics brand, and the image is taken from the latest advertising campaign shot by Mario Testino.
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I know we have a "Copying off Madonna? What a ridiculous concept" thread, but since at times, the accusations of some new pop singer or another allegedly ripping off Madonna (who herself ripped off Marilyn Monroe and Dietrich) has become so frequent, I feel it's become a cliche', which is why I post those type comments here at times.

-Especially the phrase "the new Madonna."

Here's another example (at least the writer also uses Cyndi Lauper in the headline- yes, it's true, Madonna is not the only female pop singer in the world!):

Katy Perry combines Madonna's charisma with Cyndi Lauper's attitude
  • By: Nancy Dunham 06/14/11 8:05 PM

    Is Katy Perry the new Madonna?

    It sure seems like she's poised for that role as she continues to sell out tours, appear in high-profile gigs such as performing with Kanye West on "American Idol" and grace magazine covers.

    "I'm giving everyone the full spectrum on this record," Perry said of her latest album. "Teenage Dream." "You're getting the sugary sweet, but you're also getting the 'Oh my goodness, she had to sit down for a minute and let some things off her chest.' "
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Katy Perry is more of a Betty Page than a Madonna! Suddenly a popstar shows her boobs or rolls on the floor in a performance and they're compared to Madonna. :rolleyes2:
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I wish writers would stop comparing each and every new female pop singer to Madonna, asking 'Is she the new Madonna,' or saying, "So-and-so is the new Madonna."

I've seen the phrase or tactic used often enough in the past few years that I think it's become a cliche'.

And here's another example:

Could Katy Perry be the new Madonna? Can anyone?
  • by Ed Masley - Jul. 28, 2011 02:22 PM
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    How big is Katy Perry?

    If "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)" climbs one more spot to No. 1 on Billboard's Hot 100, which is looking pretty likely, she'll have tied a record held by Michael Jackson since his '80s prime for the most chart-topping singles from a single album - "Teenage Dream" in her case, "Bad" in his.

    She has had the biggest-selling single of the year so far and was, in fact, the only artist with two singles on the midyear top 10 chart released by Nielsen SoundScan, with "E.T." at No. 1 and "Firework" at No. 10.

    That's after having last year's biggest-selling single, "California Gurls," a song that pretty much defined the summer for people who listen to Top 40 radio.

    Is America's kitschiest It Girl somehow blossoming into our new Queen of Pop?

    Or would that title be a better fit for Lady Gaga, the Queen of All Digital Media, who recently became the first Twitter user with 10 million followers (less than a year after becoming the first living person with 10 million Facebook fans)?

    Taylor Swift is a little too country for the title. But Adele has this year's fastest-selling album. Then there's Rihanna - she's sent twice as many singles to the top. And Britney Spears kissed a girl, and seemed to like it, long before Perry arrived on the national scene.

    Of course, the bigger question may be, "Do we even need a new queen?"

    Has the Quintessential Queen of Pop, Madonna, even abdicated? Or is she just slowing down, at 52, after ruling the culture surrounding pop music for decades with her cult of personality, her videos, her fashion sense, the huge pop-music spectacles that are Madonna concert tours and 37 Top 10 singles? Macy's had to open a Madonnaland boutique in 1985 to serve the fashion needs of young Madonna wannabes. Like the Beatles, she outlasted that initial outburst of hysteria by challenging the expectations of those fans (and fans she had yet to win) with her chameleonic quest for new adventures, like a female David Bowie.

    It's been more than a decade since Madonna topped the Hot 100 with the disco-flavored "Music" in 2000, her first appearance at the top since "Take a Bow" in 1995. But there's no denying that she's set the bar - and set it high - against which Perry, Lady Gaga, Spears, Rihanna and other young pop icons to come must be judged.

    Is there a new Madonna out there?

    Maybe it's too soon to tell. But in the meantime, especially with Perry in town this week, we thought it would be telling to put a few comparisons together and see just how the new pop icons measure up.

    We'll start with the standard of excellence.

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