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President '08; - thread for Palin, McCain, Obama, etc.
Topic Started: Jan 4 2007, 02:36 AM (2,284 Views)
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Breck Boy Will Be Running for President in 2008
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I don't really like any of the Republican candidates.

I can stomach Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson, but I'm not big fans of either guy.

I absolutely do not like Mick Huckabee. He's a former Baptist minister, but on some issues, he's a liberal.

I don't care if Huckabee was a Baptist minister or not; the part that bothers me is his leftist stance on the border and illegal immigrants.

Here are a couple of articles which highlight some of the reasons I don't like the guy:
The Church of Huck: Growing Government in the Name of Religion
The Problem With Pastor Mike

Unfortunately, Huckabee came in first in the Iowa caucus the other day. The results were (in order):

REPUBLICANS:
  • 1. Mike Huckabee - 34%
    2. Mitt Romney - 25%
    3. Fred Thompson - 13%
    4. John McCain - 13%
    5. Ron Paul - 10%
DEMOCRATS:
  • 1. Barack Obama - 38%
    2. John Edwards - 30%
    3. Hillary Clinton - 29%
    4. Bill Richardson - 2%
    5. Joe Biden - 1%
Analysis: Huckabee up, Clinton down heading to Granite State

Dodd and Biden drop out of White House race

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Mike Huckabee and Christian Duty
  • Jan 3, 2008

    Mike Huckabee said last Sunday on Meet the Press that his faith was important to him and that it drove his views on everything from the environment to poverty to disease and to hunger.

    Huckabee then went on to say that he thought the Republican Party needed to take a greater leadership role on these sorts of issues and that, as a Christian, he wanted to make sure that Republicans spoke out more on these issues.

    Excellent. As a Christian Republican myself, I will express support for protecting God's Creation, fighting sickness, and ending hunger. All are profoundly Christian ideals.

    But Mike Huckabee, as a Christian, is not really talking about protecting Creation, fighting sickness or ending hunger.

    Mike is talking about using the coercive power of government to force other people to pay taxes and to comply with onerous and arbitrary laws to do what Mike thinks, as a Christian, he should be doing.

    That is the salient fact: as a Christian, Huckabee can be a witness to Christian behavior; he can exhort others to themselves become a witness to Christian behavior; but he cannot demand the enslavement of others to do those things which, as a Christian, he feels that he should do.

    The term "enslavement," of course, is relative. Americans are comparatively free. But everything that Huckabee feels government should do requires a loss of freedom for every American.

    Moreover, Huckabee is not just asking for the greater enslavement of Christian Americans, but he is asking for the greater enslavement of all Americans. This is most un-Christian. Does my verdict sound extreme? Substitute "Rome" for "America" and substitute "publican" for "tax dollars."

    Did Christ ever say his followers should ask Rome to do more for the welfare of its subjects? Or did Christ ask each individual Christian to personally do more to feed the hungry, to comfort the sick, to care for the widows and orphans, and to seek justice and mercy? Rome was a welfare state.

    The urban masses of Rome lived on bread and circuses. Roman power, outside Rome, build good roads, aqueducts, baths, bridges, libraries and undertook many other public works projects. Pax Romana was a very real blessing to nations who had fought wars around Mare Nostrum for centuries.

    Despite the ways in which Roman power could be used to improve the world, Christ never looked to Rome to bring paradise or earth or even to be the agent of doing good in this world.

    Christ, rather, enjoined his followers to personally sacrifice and work for the rest of the world. He did not want Christians running for Roman offices to use the hated Roman taxes to "do good." His message was personal.

    Christians have heeded that call.

    Newt Gingrich, for example, does care about the environment and ecology, but as a private citizen.

    Rush Limbaugh quietly and privately helps many charities.

    Each Christmas the Salvation Army has hosts of volunteers who raise money to directly help the poor.

    Christians throughout America have healed the sick, comforted the distressed, and preserved the glory of Creation - but they act personally, and not through the enslavement of other Americans.

    Mike should want to be a disciple of Christ and not a consul of Rome. At the time of Christ, everyone knew just how much good Rome did, but they also knew the price of Roman benefits.

    It was by no means clear whether Rome, on balance, did more good or bad. But it was always clear that the Christian who gave of us own purse to feed the hungry did pure good. That is the distinction between using Rome (or any government) to try to do good and using one's own Christian conscience and will to do good.

    But there are other problems with Huckabee's pining for more government intervention.

    Not only is the enslavement of others to do what one thinks is right fundamentally unchristian, but it is also horribly inefficient and produces much wickedness disguised as goodness. Creating bureaucracies of government employees to "care" for the poor, the environment, the sick and so forth has proven the least cost-effective way of helping people, but worse, these bureaucrats are not acting out of Christian love: they are just doing their job.

    These "dependency" bureaucracies actually coarsen the consciences of both recipients and administrators.

    Huckabee also misses the theological fact that caring for Creation, curing the sick and feeding the hungry is not just a Christian injunction, but a Judeo-Christian injunction.

    The Blessed Creator spoke clearly to the Jewish people about their duties in this area as well. If Huckabee is speaking as a Christian, perhaps he might do well to note that the Jewish people have the same moral imperative.

    And, of course, Jews have done much to relieve human misery, to research cures for diseases, to help preserve nature, and to do the other things Huckabee wants government to do - and these actions, like the actions of good Christians, have been done privately, without the help of enslaved taxpayers.

    Often this service to the poor and the frightened in America by Jews has been dramatic.

    My father-in-law spent six tortured years as a slave laborer in Auschwitz, but he spent the last seventeen years of his life as an unpaid volunteer to keep Henry Hudson Park in New York free from gangs and other unhealthy influences so that families and children could have a safe, happy place to recreate themselves in the middle of Riverdale. No one asked him to do this: he did it.

    Mike Huckabee is quite right to enjoin all Christians and Jews to help the poor, comfort the sick, preserve the beauty of our Blessed Creation, to give jobs to the unemployed and all the other moral commands of the Judeo-Christian religious and moral tradition.

    Mike Huckabee is quite wrong in perceiving this duty as a function of an impersonal, ineffective and unaccountable government.

    What Mike says we should do, we should all do individually, as our conscience commands us to do. We cannot replace our hands and our wallets with the hands of slaves or the federal treasury.
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Know Their Enemy

The article:
You can judge a man (or a political movement) by his enemies. Tom Maguire notes an interesting thing about the left:
  • Let me see if I understand this - John Edwards and the Krugman Democrats want to negotiate with the Iranians and North Koreans but not the drug companies or health insurers.

    Well, as long as we are clear who the bad guys are.
Commenter Steveaz explains the thinking:
  • I'm seeing a pattern here.

    If a threat is real and deadly, the Democrats want to talk to it, not "fight" it.

    But if a threat is illusory, mundane, and invisible, then the Democrats want to "fight" it.

    Of course, their idea of a fight is to convene a commission. But just like their "war" on poverty, the Dem's "fights" against "Big Pharma" and "Big Oil" are only attempts to gain votes.

    Maybe it's better that the Democrats won't "fight" Iranian nukes and global Islamofascism. If they did, we'd have to sit thru CNN's "analysis" of a zillion politicized commission-reports, And a Valerie Plame, a Gorelick, or a Downing Street Memo can always get slipped into these committees to ensure the "punches" fall on the Left's favorite villains: Americans and Republicans.
No wonder why when Dems are in charge our enemies steal our lunch money.
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I don't think I'd ever vote for Mike Huckabee, so I don't know why he shows up at #2 on my list.

I used the Candidate Calculator, and my score was...

Your Top Match:

Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson ®
100% match

Your Other Top Matches:

Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee ®
95.24%

California Representation Duncan Hunter ®
95.24%

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney ®
90.48%

Middle of the Pack

Tom Tancredo ®
90.48%

Sam Brownback ®
85.71%

John Cox ®
80.95%

Rudy Giuliani ®
76.19%

John McCain ®
76.19%

Ron Paul ®
61.90%

Joseph Biden (D)
42.86%

Barack Obama (D)
42.86%

Bill Richardson (D)
42.86%

Christopher Dodd (D)
38.10%

Bottom of the Barrel

Hillary Clinton (D)
33.33%

John Edwards (D)
28.57%

Mike Gravel (D)
23.81%

Dennis Kucinich (D)
4.76%





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This was my results:

Your Top Match
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) 93.75% match

Your Other Top Matches
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 81.25%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 68.75%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 68.75%

Middle of the Pack
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 68.75%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 62.50%
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 62.50%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 56.25%
Businessman John Cox ® - 43.75%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani ® - 43.75%
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee ® - 43.75%
Texas Representative Ron Paul ® - 43.75%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo ® - 37.50%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney ® - 31.25%

Bottom of the Barrel
Arizona Senator John McCain ® - 25.00%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson ® - 25.00%
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback ® - 18.75%
California Representative Duncan Hunter ® - 18.75%
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Here's another one:
Who should I vote for for president in 2008?

According to this second widget, these are my results:
  • Tom Tancredo - 74%
    You are most like Tom Tancredo, who is a presidential candidate is running because of one issue alone: immigration. He has rallied against immigration and doesn't just want to construct fences and laws that keep out foreign workers (legal or not). He also opposes birth-right citizenship and wants to deploy American troops along the US-Mex border. In addition, he has formally called for the elimination of public schools, advocated for bombing Mecca to get back at Islamic terrorists, and resists the President's big-government agenda. You might like him, but his own party thinks he is a disaster- Karl Rove told him that he would never 'darken the doorstep of the White House' again; and Tom DeLay told him that 'you cannot think of making a career in [Congress].'

    Duncan Hunter - 73%
    Congratulations! You and Duncan Hunter are socially conservative nativists! Hunter is a conservative Republican Congressman from California who is big on unborn babies but not immigrants. He best known in congress for his prominent role in constructing a 14-mile double fence along the US-Mex border and introducing the Right to Life Act, which would give constitutional rights to anything that develops after the moment of conception. Unlike many Republicans, he opposes free trade because he says it poses a threat to American manufacturing and creates a huge trade deficit. To discourage trade, he has proposed a law that allows American companies to use "exchange-rate manipulation" as an excuse to receive protection under America's trade laws.

    Mike Huckabee - 65%
    Mike Huckabee is a socially conservative Governor of Arkansas who was recognized as one of America's best governors by Time magazine. He was instrumental in providing health insurance for more than 70,000 uninsured children but conservatives resent the 5 tax increases he supported during his tenure (though one was court-ordered) and his endorsement for legal and illegal foreign workers. As a Southern Baptist minister he abhors abortion and same-sex marriage/unions and advocates for allowing public schools to teach Creationism and Intelligent Design. The death penalty, the War in Iraq, the troop surge, and the operation of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp all receive Huckabee's continued support.

    You do NOT match up well with:

    Chris Dodd - 23%
    Dodd is a liberal democrat who consistently receives somewhere between a 95-100% approval rating from Americans for Democratic Action and the National Committee for an Effective Congress. Unlike his Democrat counterparts, he believes that same-sex marriage and civil unions should be an issue left to states and supports free trade agreements. As a legislator, he is known for his work on expanding health care coverage to the uninsured, particularly children.

    John Edwards - 30%
    John Edwards is a progressive democrat with little legislative experience (6 years). He has noble goals accompanied with detailed plans of how to accomplish them. He believes that resources are best spent on poverty alleviation (in the U.S.), universal health coverage, and addressing global warming than on reducing the budget deficit or continue funding an unpopular war. He is the most populist and protectionist of the candidates and is the only one willing to admit that his plans will require more- not fewer taxes, but the bill will still be less than what the Iraq War is currently costing.

    Mike Gravel - 30%
    Mike Gravel is your chosen candidate. He is a former senator from Alaska who is deeply left-wing and has spent his time since the Senate, which he left in 1980, in the private sector. His credited for his efforts in ending the draft following the Vietnam War and the release of the Pentagon Papers as well. He has been an outspoken proponent of direct democracy, gay rights, and even making it a felony to keep troops in Iraq. Gravel is bringing new ideas to the table but they are only attracting less than 1% of Democrats.
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Clinton, Romney Win Nevada's Presidential Caucuses
  • an. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Hillary Clinton claimed victory in Nevada's Democratic caucuses and Mitt Romney won the Republican contest.

    Clinton, a New York senator, had 51 percent of the vote to score her second win over Senator Barack Obama of Illinois in the Democratic nomination race. While Obama had 45 percent the votes...

    Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards received 4 percent, ...

    Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, was the only major Republican candidate to focus on the state and he took 51 percent of the caucus vote with 98 percent of precincts reporting. Texas Representative Ron Paul and Senator John McCain of Arizona were in a close battle for second, both with about 13 percent of the vote.
Obama supporter warns Clinton over 'racism'
  • One of Barack Obama's most fervent supporters has warned Hillary Clinton that "racist" comments by the former First Lady will deny her the support of black voters in South Carolina - the next White House battleground.

    Edith Childs, the black councillor who has become a talisman for Obama's campaign after giving him his "Fired Up! Ready To Go!" campaign slogan, said black voters in her home state were "insulted" by Mrs Clinton's attempts last week to downplay the role of Martin Luther King in the passage of civil rights legislation.

    In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, she also expressed dismay at a campaign speech by Bill Clinton, which some interpreted as a claim that Obama's candidacy was a "fairy tale".

    ....Polls show Mr Obama has opened up a two to one lead among black voters, prompting Mrs Clinton to deploy adverts featuring the black basketball star Earvin "Magic" Johnson in the state this weekend.

    The evidence on the ground in Greenwood bears out claims that there is a generational divide in the black community, with older civil rights campaigners sticking with the Clintons and the younger generation backing Obama.
Clinton loses support among black Democrats

King's son says Clinton erred
  • Martin Luther King III, in Boston for an announcement that the city will build a statue to honor his parents, said yesterday that Senator Hillary Clinton made a mistake by saying his father's call for racial equality was realized only with a president's action.

    ....King, son of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, said he thought the controversy had been blown out of proportion. However, he also said that Clinton's words were potentially denigrating.
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Edwards (D) and Giuliani® dropped out.

I do not like McCain. He is a liberal on many issues. I don't consider him a true Republican, and I do not want him to get the GOP nomination.

Edwards and Giuliani out of race for White House
  • .... Mr Giuliani yesterday planned to endorse Arizona senator John McCain, who won Tuesday's Republican primary in Florida to become his party's frontrunner ahead of Super Tuesday next week.

    Mr Edwards's withdrawal leaves Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama as the only remaining Democratic candidates in a closely fought contest that could continue right up to the party's convention in August.
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:cry: No! Noooooooo! Romney dropped out.

I can't stand Huckabee or McCain.

Huckabee and McCain are LIBERALS running under the Republican heading.

Five Questions on Romney's Withdrawl
  • WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney dropped out of the GOP race Thursday after a disappointing showing on Super Tuesday, surprising many conservatives and his own supporters
Romney Supporters Surprised by Exit

Why?!?!?!?!? Why????!?!?!?!?!? Why did you have to drop out Romney?!

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Here's my results for the "who should I vote for?" quiz:

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[dohtml]<h2>Who should I vote for for president in 2008?</h2>
<h3 class="boom">You match up well with...</h3>

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<td class="ta-r" style="padding:2px 0px 2px 0px;width:60px;height:60px;"><a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/bill-richardson/10726/"><img src="http://image.politicalbase.com/uploads/people/11000/10726/594991richardson_150.jpg" style="border:solid 1px #CCC;"></a></td>
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  <a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/bill-richardson/10726/" class="f-24 strong">Bill Richardson</a><span class="f-24 green"> - 82% match</span><br/>
  You must be looking for a moderate liberal with impressive credentials. If you live in Iowa or New Hampshire, you could have voted for Bill Richardson. Otherwise, you're out of luck. After finishing 4th in both states, Richardson dropped out of the presidential race.

Experienced in state, national, and international politics, Richardson has been a Congressman, an ambassador to the United Nations Security Council, and is now the governor of New Mexico. He is pro-choice, strongly favors rights for the LGBT population, advocates for affirmative action in government contracts, and even championed the idea that Congress should revoke the original authority it gave to go to war with Iraq. Richardson also supports the death penalty and gun ownership rights.
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<td class="ta-r" style="padding:2px 0px 2px 0px;width:60px;height:60px;"><a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/barack-obama/3221/"><img src="http://image.politicalbase.com/uploads/people/4000/3221/1750402b_60.jpg" style="border:solid 1px #CCC;"></a></td>
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  <a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/barack-obama/3221/" class="f-24 strong">Barack Obama</a><span class="f-24 green"> - 75% match</span><br/>
  You must be ambitious and idealistic, like Barack Obama. Obama is a liberal democrat who, unlike his rivals, opposed the Iraq war from the start. With only 3 years in the Senate, his inexperience worries some and sometimes reveals itself in the debates, but he also has the charisma and popular support that the others lack.
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<td class="ta-r" style="padding:2px 0px 2px 0px;width:60px;height:60px;"><a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/dennis-kucinich/8831/"><img src="http://image.politicalbase.com/uploads/people/9000/8831/388696Dennis_Kucinich_30.jpg" style="border:solid 1px #CCC;"></a></td>
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  <a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/dennis-kucinich/8831/" class="f-24 strong">Dennis Kucinich</a><span class="f-24 green"> - 73% match</span><br/>
  You've been matched with Denis Kucinich, a far-left Ohio congressman. We hope you're happy with your second choice, because Kucinich dropped his White House bid on 25 January 2008. Kucinich has the most extreme proposals for nearly every issue including creating a single-payer system of universal health care; an immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Iraq and replacing them with an international security force; and guaranteeing quality education with free pre-kindergarten and college. He even wants to impeach Vice President d*ck Cheney. Needless to say, Kucinich was a no-hope contender.
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<h3 class="boom">You <span class="red">don't</span> match up well with...</h3>

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<td class="ta-r" style="padding:2px 0px 2px 0px;width:60px;height:60px;"><a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/sam-brownback/2140/"><img src="http://image.politicalbase.com/uploads/people/3000/2140/168074SamBrownback_150.jpg" style="border:solid 1px #CCC;"></a></td>
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  <a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/sam-brownback/2140/" class="f-24 strong">Sam Brownback</a><span class="f-24 green"> - 26% match</span><br/>
  As an "economically, fiscally, and socially compassionate conservative," Sam Brownback is the candidate for you! You should consider our second choice, though, because Brownback dropped out in November 2007.

The fiercely right-wing Senator from Kansas lets his religion guide his policy agenda- especially towards foreigners. He is best known for his unrelenting crusade against the genocide in Darfur and world-wide sex-trafficking. In a moment of particular compassionate, he co-sponsored a 2006 bipartisan immigration bill that branded him "Amnesty Sam" by critical conservatives and he later abandoned the cause. But there's no compassion for homosexuals, the porn industry, or women seeking abortions. Brownback's high-profile war against these groups has also put him in the spotlight.
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<td class="ta-r" style="padding:2px 0px 2px 0px;width:60px;height:60px;"><a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/duncan-hunter/8252/"><img src="http://image.politicalbase.com/uploads/people/9000/8252/1780148DuncanHunter_60.jpg" style="border:solid 1px #CCC;"></a></td>
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  <a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/duncan-hunter/8252/" class="f-24 strong">Duncan Hunter</a><span class="f-24 green"> - 27% match</span><br/>
  Congratulations! You and Duncan Hunter are socially conservative nativists! Hunter is a conservative Republican Congressman from California who is big on unborn babies but not immigrants. He best known in congress for his prominent role in constructing a 14-mile double fence along the US-Mex border and introducing the Right to Life Act, which would give constitutional rights to anything that develops after the moment of conception. Unlike many Republicans, he opposes free trade because he says it poses a threat to American manufacturing and creates a huge trade deficit. To discourage trade, he has proposed a law that allows American companies to use "exchange-rate manipulation" as an excuse to receive protection under America's trade laws.
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<td class="ta-r" style="padding:2px 0px 2px 0px;width:60px;height:60px;"><a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/tom-tancredo/11973/"><img src="http://image.politicalbase.com/uploads/people/12000/11973/1367288Tom_Tancredo,_official_Congressional_photo_30.jpg" style="border:solid 1px #CCC;"></a></td>
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  <a href="http://www.politicalbase.com/people/tom-tancredo/11973/" class="f-24 strong">Tom Tancredo</a><span class="f-24 green"> - 30% match</span><br/>
  You must be REALLY concerned with immigration, just like Tom Tancredo. You'll have to find another right-winger, because your top match dropped out in December of 2007. As stated, Tancredois almost obsessively preoccupied with the issue of immigration (illegal or not) and wants more than just fences and laws to keep out foreign workers. He also opposes birth-right citizenship and wants to deploy American troops along the US-Mex border. But aside from immigration, Tancredero has advocated for bombing Mecca to get back at Islamic terrorists, formally called for the elimination of public schools, and resists the President Bush's big-government agenda. You might like him, but his own party thinks he's a disaster- Tom DeLay told him that 'you cannot think of making a career in [Congress]' and even Karl Rove told him that he would never 'darken the doorstep of the White House' again.
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I'm not surprised. I pretty much figured I'd be voting for Obama.
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John McCain: Default nominee - by David Limbaugh
  • Isn't it ironic that GOP moderates are harshly criticizing GOP conservatives for being harshly critical of GOP presidential front-runner John McCain?

    What mortal sins have conservative McCain critics committed? Oh, they've stuck to their conservative principles, fighting for the values they believe in and refusing, prematurely, to surrender. What good would they be if they so readily threw in the towel of defeat?

    "Enlightened" moderates are shocked at conservatives, tagging them as uncompromising extremists who represent the very fringe of the Republican Party.

    John Dilulio, a principal architect of President Bush's arguably non-conservative, faith-based initiative, is among those making these arguments.

    Writing for the Weekly Standard, Dilulio says that only 3.6 percent of Republicans identify themselves as "very conservative." Is Dilulio making the unwarranted leap of implying that McCain's critics come from this 3.6 percent fringe and that mainstream conservatives have no problem with McCain?

    If so, and with due respect to Mr. Dilulio, I emphatically reject that only 3.6 percent of Republicans have great difficulty swallowing McCain – ideologically and personally.

    McCain isn't winning a majority of Republicans, much less conservative ones, and is relying heavily on Democrat crossovers and independents, not to mention a little help from his friends Mike Huckabee and the mainstream media.

    It's easy for moderates to argue that critics of moderates are extreme. That's what moderates always say. They have been complaining about conservatism since I was wearing a "Goldwater for President" T-shirt.

    They've said for years that the only way Republicans can win elections is to move to the center. Their opinion is not based on convincing data but wishful thinking. History is not their friend. Republicans win big with conservative ideas, provided they have inspiring candidates.

    Moderate ideas dilute the message and deflate the movement, zapping it of its verve and enthusiasm.

    I have read the reasonable arguments of my friend Bill Bennett and others disputing that John McCain is a liberal. They argue he is a conservative with some liberal positions and that, in any event, he's far more conservative than Hillary or Barack.

    Fair enough, though the McCain critics grossly underemphasize the differences and McCain's untrustworthiness.

    For the record, I can't see myself as ever voting for either Hillary or Barack, two unreconstructed socialists who are soft on defense and enemies of the unborn. But hold your horses. We're not there yet.

    We're in the primary season, and there's nothing wrong with all sides advocating their respective positions.

    If conservatives can't hold John McCain accountable now for all his apostasies, apostasies he committed with utter delight amid mainstream-media adulation, what chance will we have of doing so later?

    The idea that our party can't recover from vigorous debate during the primaries is unserious, to wit: Reagan vs. Ford. In the meantime, rumors of the death of mainstream conservatism are greatly exaggerated.

    McCain's relative success is not a sign of the end of Reagan conservatism as a dominant political force. It's just temporarily dormant, the victim of a confluence of factors, waiting to be re-ignited.

    One factor is that we have had a weak GOP presidential field, though I think some of the candidates ultimately proved themselves to be quite inspiring. McCain has slipped in largely by default, like John Kerry in 2004.

    Another factor is that Republicans have been in control of the executive branch for seven years.

    Though Democrats have recaptured Congress, they still haven't been able to accomplish many of their legislative initiatives, including obstructing funding for the Iraq war.

    Even their reprehensible character assassination of President Bush has lost steam since the surge [in Iraq] began yielding fruit.

    Nothing unites conservatives like Democrats in power and working their mischief, or out of power and maliciously but effectively obstructing good government – excuse the liberal-sounding oxymoron.

    And then there's the war, which originally united conservatives but admittedly has led to the ascendancy of the neoconservative influence with its willingness to accept all kinds of economic and social liberalism.

    I believe that's unnecessary. All three stools – and more – of mainstream conservatism can thrive simultaneously. Nevertheless, these factors and others have coalesced to dampen, temporarily, the fires and energy of conservatism.

    Sometimes conservatives become more unified out of power. Of course that doesn't mean we should allow Democrats to regain the White House, either because we would unite while out of power or because we are seriously disappointed about the prospect of John McCain as our candidate.

    But would the critics of McCain's critics please quit trying to marginalize mainstream conservatives and redefine mainstream conservatism?

    Just admit your guy is not that conservative and let us hold his feet to the fire, especially since his success to this point will give him all the more temptation to pander to liberals. You're the ones who need to chill out.
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It's now McCain for the GOP, and we're down to Hillary Vs. Obama for the Democrats.

It's been funny for me watching the Obama Democrats turn on the Clintons.

In the past couple of months, I've been seeing Democrats point out the same negative things about the Clintons that conservatives/Republicans have been pointing out for years! :laugh:

Some Democrats have also lambasted Hillary for being what they perceive as racist. I am loving this Democratic Party in-fighting!

Questions Raised On Darkened Obama Ad

Was Obama Darkened in Hillary Ad? (has side by side comparison photos)
  • March 05, 2008 03:20am

    THE HILLARY Clinton camp has been accused of deliberately darkening the skin of opponent Barack Obama in a new ad.

    The controversial footage has been compared to images shot of Obama during a debate in Cleveland last week - with critics claiming a screen grab used in the Clinton has been altered to highlight his race.

    A posting on the liberal website DailyKos shows the two images side by side.

    See the images for yourself here.

    However, despite the strong similarities between the ad on the DailyKos site and the original ad on Clintons Web site, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson moved to distant the team from the controversy.

    He told Fox News he had spoken with the campaigns chief ad maker, Mandy Grunwald, who said emphatically the ad on DailyKos was not their ad.

    We dont know what is up there, but it is not our ad, Carson said.

    However, he said that Obamas image was darkened, as part of a saturation-desaturation process typical in commercial production and sent in an example of a Clinton ad featuring the candidate and the original footage of Clinton delivering the campaign speech used in the ad.

    He said both candidates have done it in their ads, and that there was no ulterior motive behind doing so in the campaigns most recent ad.

    ....One posting on the DailyKos site, though, charged that while darkening footage may be considered standard practice for political ads trying to cast the target as sinister, it is not an acceptable excuse.

    Even if you accept that as normal practice, its still a dirty one, and it takes on a more charged meaning when youre using it to attack someone in your own party whos already fighting against a lot of racism in the false Muslim smears, the posting said. This is, at best, the worst of politics as usual.

    The Obama campaign had no comment.

    .... Some bloggers immediately compared the case to the infamous 1994 Time magazine cover of O.J. Simpson following his arrest on murder charges. In that case, Time photo editors deliberately darkened a mug shot of Simpson, giving him a much more menacing appearance.

    There are a number of commonly used techniques that allow photo and video editors to darken or lighten images. The lighting and tonality can be changed for effect, to highlight some parts of the image or for a variety of other reasons.
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It's now McCain for the GOP, and we're down to Hillary Vs. Obama for the Democrats.

Oops, I forgot that Ron Paul is still in the running. He's so inconsequential I think it's only natural that I'd forget about him. He's so forgettable.

Oooh, ooh, wait, I just googled him:

Paul Ends His Campaign
-and that was on Thursday. I so wasn't paying attention. :laugh:

In other news...

Back on trail, Obama and Clinton trade digs

FactCheck.org: Did Clinton Darken Obama's Skin [in Ad]?

Obama Wins Wyoming Caucuses
  • Barack Obama today defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Wyoming Democratic presidential caucuses, a victory that comes just four days after he fell short in Ohio and Texas.
Samantha Power: Obama's Troop Withdrawal Promises Are Empty - Yahoo News
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  WASHINGTON - A former adviser to Barack Obama who resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton “a monster” said Obama may not be able to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within a year as he has promised on the campaign trail.

    Samantha Power, a Pulitzer Prize-winner author and unpaid adviser, made the comments in two separate interviews with foreign media while promoting her latest book. In a tight Democratic presidential campaign where attacks are becoming increasingly bitter, Power’s comments ignited a flurry of accusations between the two candidates.

    Clinton said it’s hard to know what Obama’s real positions are, while Obama insisted he will end the war in 2009 if elected and blamed Clinton for helping start it.

    The comment that led to Power’s resignation came in an interview with The Scotsman. “She is a monster, too — that is off the record — she is stooping to anything,” the newspaper quoted her as saying.

A few hours after the comments were published, Power, a Harvard professor, announced her resignation in a statement in which she said the remarks were inexcusable and contradictory to her admiration for Clinton.

Power told RTE, Ireland’s public broadcast service, that she spoke with Obama by phone Friday and he “made it absolutely clear that we just couldn’t make comments like this in his campaign.” ...

    Power’s comments about Iraq came in an interview with the BBC. She said Obama’s position is that withdrawing all U.S. troops within 16 months is a “best-case scenario” that he will revisit if he becomes president.

    “He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. senator,” she said. “He will rely upon a plan — an operational plan — that he pulls together in consultation with people who are on the ground to whom he doesn’t have daily access now, as a result of not being the president.”
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Ferraro's comment about Obama's race draws fire

Ferraro's Remarks About Obama Decried
  • WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton said Tuesday she disagrees with Geraldine Ferraro, one of her fundraisers and the 1984 vice presidential candidate, for suggesting that Barack Obama only achieved his status in the presidential race because he's black. In a brief interview with The Associated Press, Clinton was questioned about Ferraro's remarks.

    The Obama campaign has called on the New York senator to denounce them.

    Ferraro told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Calif.: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

    The newspaper published the interview last Friday.

    Clinton said, "I do not agree with that," and later added, "It's regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal."

    "We ought to keep this on the issues. there are differences between us" on approaches to health care, energy, experience.

    Ferraro is a former New York congresswoman and was Walter Mondale's running mate when he was the Democratic presidential nominee in 1984. She has endorsed Clinton and raised money for her campaign.

    Obama called Ferraro's comments "patently absurd.
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Obama Web Site 'Disappears' Radical Pastor

Video: Obama Lavishes Praise on Rev. Jeremiah Wright

Obama's Church: Accurate Reporting = Character Assassination

AP Covering for Obama's Pastor

Rolling Stone Trying to Cover Up Obama's 'Radical Roots'?

AP, Reuters Ignore Obama's Pastor

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Someone sent this to me:
Whether Democrat or Republican one might want to know just what the candidates have in mind for our personal money. That's what taxes are.....YOUR MONEY.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX:

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
28%

CLINTON
24%

How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX:

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6%

CLINTON
39.6%

How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama or Clinton become president. The experts predict that "Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit."

INCOME TAX:

MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750

CLINTON
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750

How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX:

MCCAIN
0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Reinstate the inheritance tax

CLINTON
Reinstate the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY BOTH CLINTON AND OBAMA:

* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)
* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least...
* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

More information on Obama's tax and spend agenda:

If Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Could Enact All Of His Campaign Proposals, Taxpayers Would Be Faced With Financing $874.35 Billion In New Spending Over One White House Term:

Updated February 14, 2008: Obama's National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion Over Ten Years; Equal To $6 Billion A Year And $24 Billion Over Four Years. Obama: "I'm proposing a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will invest $60 billion over ten years." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks On Economic Policy, Janesville, WI, 2/13/08

Obama's Health Care Plan Will Cost Up To $65 Billion A Year; Equal To $260 Billion Over Four Years. "[Obama] campaign officials estimated that the net cost of the plan to the federal government would be $50 billion to $65 billion a year, when fully phased in, and said the revenues from rolling back the tax cuts were enough to cover it." (Robin Toner and Patrick Healy, "Obama Calls For Wider And Less Costly Health Care Coverage," The New York Times, 5/30/07)

Obama's Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion Over 10 Years, Equal To $15 Billion Annually And $60 Billion Over Four Years. "Obama will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial-scale renewable energy, invest in low-emissions coal plants, and begin the transition to a new digital electricity grid." (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change," www.barackobama.com <http://www.barackobama.com/>; , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 25)

Obama's Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Billion A Year; Equal To $340 Billion Over Four Years. "[Obama's] proposed tax cuts and credits, aimed at workers earning $50,000 or less per year, would cost the Treasury an estimated $85 billion annually." (Margaret Talev, "Obama Proposes Tax Code Overhaul To Help The Poor," McClatchy Newspapers, 9/19/07

* Obama's Plan Would Raise Taxes On Capital Gains And Dividends, And On Carried Interest. Obama's tax plan includes: "ncreasing the highest bracket for capital gains and dividends and closing the carried interest loophole." (Obama For America, "Barack Obama: Tax Fairness For The Middle Class," Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com <http://obama.3cdn.net/b7be3b7cd08e587dca_v852mv8ja.pdf>; , Accessed 1/8

Obama's Economic Stimulus Package Will Cost $75 Billion. "Barack Obama's economic plan will inject $75 billion of stimulus into the economy by getting money in the form of tax cuts and direct spending directly to the people who need it most." (Obama For America, "Barack Obama's Plan To Stimulate The Economy," Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com <http://obama.3cdn.net/8335008b3be0e6391e_foi8mve29.pdf>; , 1/13/08)

Obama's Early Education And K-12 Package Will Cost $18 Billion A Year; Equal To $72 Billion Over Four Years. "Barack Obama's early education and K-12 plan package costs about $18 billion per year." (Obama For America, "Barack Obama's Plan For Lifetime Success Through Education," Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com <http://obama.3cdn.net/a8dfc36246b3dcc3cb_iem6bxpgh.pdf>; , 11/20/07, p. 15)

Obama's National Service Plan Will Cost $3.5 Billion A Year; Equal To $14 Billion Over Four Years. "Barack Obama's national service plan will cost about $3.5 billion per year when it is fully implemented." (Obama For America, "Helping All Americans Serve Their Country: Barack Obama's Plan For Universal Voluntary Citizen Service," Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com <http://obama.3cdn.net/3b3158f85f69a39217_hydpmvzbb.pdf>; ,

Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By $25 Billion. "Obama will embrace the Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme poverty around the world in half by 2015, and he will double our foreign assistance to $50 billion to achieve that goal." (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change," www.barackobama.com <http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf>; , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 53)

Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees. "He will provide at least $2 billion to expand services to Iraqi refugees in neighboring countries, and ensure that Iraqis inside their own country can find a safe-haven." (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change," www.barackobama.com <http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf>; , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 51)

Obama Will Provide $1.5 Billion To Help States Adopt Paid-Leave Systems. "As president, Obama will initiate a strategy to encourage all 50 states to adopt paid-leave systems. Obama will provide a $1.5 billion fund to assist states with start-up costs and to help states offset the costs for employees and employers." (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change," www.barackobama.com <http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf>; , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 15)

Obama Will Provide $1 Billion Over 5 Years For Transitional Jobs And Career Pathway Programs, Equal To $200 Million A Year And $800 Million Over Four Years. "Obama will invest $1 billion over five years in transitional jobs and career pathway programs that implement proven methods of helping low-income Americans succeed in the workforce." (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change," www.barackobama.com <http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf>; , Accessed 1/14/08,

Obama Will Provide $50 Million To Jump-Start The Creation Of An IAEA-Controlled Nuclear Fuel Bank. Obama: "We must also stop the spread of nuclear weapons technology and ensure that countries cannot build -- or come to the brink of building -- a weapons program under the auspices of developing peaceful nuclear power. That is why my administration will immediately provide $50 million to jump-start the creation of an International Atomic Energy Agency-controlled nuclear fuel bank and work to update the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty." (Sen. Barack Obama, "Renewing American Leadership," Foreign Affairs, 7-8/07)
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[Obama's] Rev. Wright: A Former Muslim
  • Barack Obama’s pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, is an ex-Muslim, Nation of Islam style.
Michelle Obama speaks at presidential rally in Skibo Gym
  • While the crowd was indeed diverse, some students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama’s event coordinators, who handpicked the crowd sitting behind Mrs. Obama. The Tartan’s correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, “Get me more white people, we need more white people.” To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, “We’re moving you, sorry. It’s going to look so pretty, though.”

    “I didn’t know they would say, ‘We need a white person here,’ ” said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. “I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn’t know it would be so outright.”
Did Obama Hide His Father's Communist Ideology?
  • Barack Obama has written in his autobiography that he organized his life around the ideals imparted by his Kenyan father, Barak H. Obama, a Harvard-trained economist. So what were those ideals?

    PrestoPundit has found a 1965 paper written by Obama’s father, in which he advocates:

    — 100% taxation

    — communal farms / the elimination of private farming

    — the nationalization of businesses owned by “Europeans” and “Asians”.

    — “active” measures to bring about a classless society

    PrestoPundit is calling it the “Rosebud” of the Obama campaign: Barack Obama hid his father’s socialist and anti-Western convictions from his readers.
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At the Official Obama Site: 'How the Jewish Lobby Works'
  • Here’s yet another disgusting antisemitic page at the official Barack Obama campaign web site, by a group calling itself “Socialists for Obama.”

    This group of Jew-haters has apparently been at his site since April, and there are numerous comments from Obama supporters that are indistinguishable from the hate speech you’ll find at neo-Nazi sites: Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Socialists for Obama: How the jewish lobby works.

    There’s something deeply wrong with a presidential candidate who attracts so many of these hateful psychotics. Read the comments; you just won’t believe what is allowed to be posted at Barack Obama’s web site.

    ....UPDATE at 6/8/08 9:17:47 am:

    Follow the link at the top of the page to “Tennessee for Obama ‘08” and you’ll find another lovely graphic:

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This is an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's site:
  • Now, on Monday, ladies and gentlemen -- and some of this stuff might leak before Monday -- on Monday, the Atlantic magazine is going to publish a story written by Josh Green.

    Josh Green obtained 130, approximately, internal [Hillary Clinton campaign] memos.

    There are about 200 internal memos that Josh Green obtained, 130 or so of which he plans to scan and post online.

    These are former advisors to Hillary Clinton, who are now in a tizzy over this piece in the Atlantic Monthly that chronicles the inner workings of the Hillary campaign.

    When the piece is published sometime next week, readers will be able to scroll through the memos from people like Mark Penn, Harold Ickes, Geoff Garin, to see what exactly was going on inside the infamously fractured Clinton organization.

    This has some former team members in panic, and I'll tell you why, because I myself as a powerful, influential member of the media, have obtained shocking lifted sentences from a memo. Shocking.

    Clinton team internal memos referring to Barack Obama as "unelectable."

    Clinton team internal memo saying Barack Obama has a lack of American roots.

    Clinton team internal memo: Obama is unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun.


    Those are the three references that I have.

    Now, 130 of these 200 memos are going to be posted online.

    No wonder the Clinton team's in a tizzy, 'cause this Atlantic Monthly guy got hold of these, and they're trying to peg everybody in the Republican party as racist.

    They're trying to peg everybody in the Republican Party as sexist and bigoted and homophobic, and when these memos are seen, if the three things I have are any indication of what was said about Barry, The Messiah, by the Clinton interworking team

    -- (interruption) --

    well, oh, there's no question. Mr. Snerdley just asked me, "Who leaked this, and why?"

    Do you have to really think about that? Do you really have to think about who leaked this? Who do you think leaked it? You don't think she would? You never, ever trust a Clinton. Nothing that happens with the Clintons is a coincidence.

    You don't think she'd leak this? Ha-ha-ha.

    You don't think he would leak it? Maybe their fingerprints aren't going to be on this, but there are any number usual suspects in this.

    Who would be able to get their hands on internal Clinton memos, ladies and gentlemen?

    They say the campaign was fractured and disorganized and so forth. I mean, it wouldn't be Patti Solis Doyle who left the Clinton camp, got canned, she's over now working for The Messiah, The One.

    So it doesn't matter who leaked it.

    It's going to come out, and everybody's going to wait with bated breath all weekend because I think more of these things are going to leak.

    The point of this all is, with this kind of disarray -- FinancialTimes.com: "Democrat Jitters as Obama Heads for Hawaii. Obama advisor blames McCain ad for poll dip."

    They are worried. Grab audio sound bite number 15. We put together a montage of the Drive-By Media.

    BARNICLE: Why isn't Barack Obama running away with this election?

    GREGORY: Why do you think Obama is not doing better?

    BLILTZER: Why do you believe he's not doing even better?

    KING: Why is this election close?

    MARCIANO: Why, the race is so close.

    MITCHELL: Why it is, as close as it is.

    COOPER: Why is the race even close?

    BORGER: Obama really should be further ahead.

    BROWN: Why the race is so close?


    RUSH: Okay, now, the obvious question is, "Who do these people think they are? On what basis should he be so far ahead?"

    According to who should he be so far ahead?

    According to them, 'cause they've pulled out all the stops, they've given this guy every tailwind they could give him.

    They have been pumping this guy, puff pieces, they've been treating him like the president, they've treating him like royalty, they've been treating him like a messiah.

    Plus McCain's such a wrinkled old white guy, like Paris Hilton said.

    ...So he should be so ahead, why?

    Well, well, because Republicans always lose, and the country always loves Democrats, and the Democrats are just such a big party, and everybody hates Bush, and everybody hates the war in Iraq, and Obama makes such a good speech, and everybody wants change and has hope in the future and, why is he not doing better?

    We can't figure it out.

    Hey, ask yourselves a question:

    The guy [Obama] goes to Germany and rips his own country! The guy comes back and rips his own country to a seven-year-old little girl! The guy thinks elevating pressure in your tires replaces drilling for oil. And don't tell me he didn't say it, 'cause he did.

    The first thing he said was exactly that. We could save as much as we're going to get from drilling, if we would just properly inflate the tires.

    No, sir, we cannot inflate our way out of this.

    So anyway, the Drive-Bys are in a tizzy. The polling data shows that the American people vastly, great majority want to drill here, drill now, want more oil.

    The Clintons are about to turn the Democrat convention into a war zone.

    And five Republican senators join five Democrats to undercut the entire one issue that gives McCain and Republicans a slam dunk over the Democrats, and that's drilling.

    BREAK TRANSCRIPT

    RUSH: "Why is Obama down? Why is Obama down? Oh, no! Why isn't Obama leading? Why isn't he leading by double digits? Why isn't he just running away with this?" The question is starting to resonate.

    You know, you Drive-Bys [journalists / reporters] had better stop asking that question on television.

    You can ask it to yourselves on the planes and in the buses and in the bars, but you go and ask that question on television, and it's a mantra now just like "gravitas" was.

    It's on every cable network, by every host. "Why can't Obama win? Why isn't he in double digits? Why isn't he running away with this?" You keep asking the question, Drive-Bys, and it's going to start resonating with people, and I think it has started resonating with people.

    Maybe the question is resonating in this way: What does anybody know about this guy [Obama], Drive-Bys? What does anybody really know about this guy?

    What does anybody think he or she knows about Obama? Folks, ask yourselves. I know which camp you're in here.

    What do you know about the guy [Obama]? You know nothing. You know Jeremiah Wright. You know Bill Ayers. You know soaring, meaningless, vapid rhetoric. You know Messiah. What do you know about the guy?

    What we know about the guy, what we think we know about the guy, is enough to warn us on. Maybe the answer is all we know is what the media tells us.

    But what do they know about him?

    They won't even tell us about John Edwards!

    The media will not even tell us about the Breck Girl, what in the world are they holding back on Obama?

    Now, this deal, by the way, this Gang of Ten deal, get this. I talked about some of the regulations in this bill that are onerous. Try this. This deal would allow drilling if -- if and when -- the EPA and PETA and states and cities and counties and the ACLU clear the way.

    It would put up more barriers to drilling, which is what the Democrats want, because they want no drilling, period.

    Five Republicans go along with it.

    By the way, Snerdley, as to your leak question, the Clinton staff is who's nervous here, not the Clintons.

    The Clintons are very happy that this is going to happen.

    But the Clinton staff, some of these people, if Barry gets elected, they're going to need gigs. They're going to need jobs in the Democrat Party. They're going to need jobs somewhere within the Democrat hierarchy, and here there are memos coming out referring to this guy as "not native," "lack of American roots," "unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun."

    It could be Mark Penn.

    You know, Mark Penn, the staff, the Clinton staff hated Mark Penn. They hated him all over the place. They wanted him out of there, and they finally got rid of him. It could be payback time. Who knows? Doesn't matter who did it, we're just glad that it's happening.

    END TRANSCRIPT
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