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President '08; - thread for Palin, McCain, Obama, etc.
Topic Started: Jan 4 2007, 02:36 AM (2,289 Views)
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(This is continued from a conversation from the political thread in the MBC forum)

Mihoshi Marie
originally this was posted in the MBC forum
I don't like McCain much either (but I respect his military service), but I figure he'd be better than Obama.  I hope he picks a more conservative running mate.
I feel the same way.

I think McCain got in because during the primaries, a lot of registered Democrats were changing themselves (temporarily) to Republicans (on paper) so that they could vote for McCain because they knew that McCain was not as conservative as the other guys running.

(And which is why Rush Limbaugh got his radio show listeners who were registered Republican voters to switch to Democrats, so they could vote for Hillary Clinton and drag the Democratic primaries on and on and on.
Rush called this "Operation Chaos," and it was very funny to listen to his show during this. The man could not stop giggling.)

The only time I don't like to see slams against McCain is if it's done because those doing the slamming think he really and truly represents conservative beliefs.

Kinda like, I don't particularly like Christian TV host Pat Robertson, and I'd actually be inclined to agree with some criticisms of him, except for when Non-Christians (and/or liberals who are hostile to the faith) insult him in the context of making him a figure head or representative of Christianity.

Since that was about as clear as mud (sorry)-
To put it another way, sometimes attacks on Robertson can be read as attacks on the Christian faith itself, and that's what I don't approve of, that's when I will speak up.

You can pretty much pick on Pat Robertson and it won't bother me, but when it's implicating the Christian faith in addition to him, that's a sticking point with me.

It's the same thing with McCain and conservative views and beliefs.
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By LIZ SIDOTI and BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writers

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DAYTON, Ohio - John McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a maverick conservative with less than two years in office, as his vice presidential running mate Friday in a startling choice as the Republican National Convention drew near.

At a raucous rally in the swing state of Ohio, McCain introduced Palin as the political partner "who can best help me shake up Washington and make it start working again for the people who are counting on us."

Palin, the first Republican woman tapped for national office, promised: "I'm going to take our campaign to every part of our country and our message of reform to every voter of every background in every political party, or no party at all."

"... Politics isn't just a game of competing interests and clashing parties," added the woman who has built her career in large measure by challenging fellow Republicans. "The people of America expect us to seek public office and to serve for the right reasons."

In a fast-developing presidential campaign, McCain made his selection six days after his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, named Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, as his running mate.

The contrast between the two announcements was remarkable — Obama, 47, picked a 65-year-old running mate with long experience in government and a man whom he said was qualified to be president.

On his 72nd birthday, McCain chose a 44-year-old running mate who until recently was the mayor of small-town Wasilla, Alaska — and made no claim she was ready to sit in the Oval Office.
At 44, she is younger than two of McCain's seven children.

She is three years Obama's junior, as well — and McCain has made much in recent weeks of Obama's relative lack of experience in foreign policy and defense matters.

In its formal announcement, the campaign pointed to her powers as head of the Alaska National Guard and the mother of a soldier herself as evidence that she "understands what it takes to lead our nation..."

McCain has had months to consider his choice, and has made it clear to reporters that one of his overriding goals was to avoid a situation like 1988, when little known Sen. Dan Quayle was thrown into a national campaign with little preparation.

A self-styled hockey mom and political reformer, Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,500, until she became governor.

She became governor of her state in December, 2006 after ousting a governor of her own party in a primary and then dispatching a former governor in the general election.

More recently, she has come under the scrutiny of an investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that she ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper.

Palin has a long history of run-ins with the Alaska GOP hierarchy, giving her genuine maverick status and reformer credentials that could complement McCain's image.

Two years ago, she ousted the state's Republican incumbent governor, Frank Murkowski in the primary, despite having little money and little establishment backing.

She has also distanced herself from two senior Republican office-holders, Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don young. Both men are under federal corruption investigations.

She had earned stripes — and enmity — after Murkowski made her head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. From that post, she exposed ethical violations by the state GOP chairman, also a fellow commissioner.

Her husband, Todd Palin, is part Yup'ik Eskimo, and is a blue-collar North Slope oil worker who competes in the Iron Dog, a 1,900-mile snowmobile race. The couple lives in Wasilla. They have five children, the youngest of whom was born in April with Down syndrome.

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Obama's camp has been (for ages now) trying to portray McCain as "George W. Bush, Part 2."

Which is why I find this funny:

Big chill at big house: Bush, McCain not on speaking terms

Excerpts:
  • But it turns out that Bush himself has not spoken to McCain since May, when the two met briefly for 14 seconds on a tarmac. And before that, not since March, when the two walked out onto the colonnade of the White House to announce the president's endorsement.

    That's because, according to this coming Sunday's New York Times, the two sides have "a relationship fraught with bitter resentment, grudging respect and mutual dependence." In short, the two need each other.

    Bush, smarting over McCain's criticisms of his handling of the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, needs a McCain victory to validate his legacy, says author Peter Baker.

    And McCain, who hasn't forgotten how the Bush forces pelted him with negative ads in the South Carolina primary in 2000, needs the president's core supporters to go to the polls. Without them, the 72-year-old McCain has an uphill battle to beat a 47-year-old Democrat with lots of money and star power who is running against an unpopular president in what looks to be a Democratic year.
Other stories-

Defending Against the First Attacks on Sarah Palin [who is McCain's choice for Vice President]

Women react to McCain's choice for vice president
  • Sarah Palin is 44-years-old and calls herself an anti-abortion feminist. She's pro-oil drilling and against gay marriage. The mother of five became Alaska’s youngest governor back in 2006.

    McCain made the announcement during a rally in Dayton Ohio Friday just three days before the GOP convention.

    ....Palin is the first female vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party, but she's the second in history. Back in 1984 Democrat Geraldine Ferraro became the first female vice-president candidate to be elected by a major party.

    ....News 10NBC talked with some voters about the impact this pick has on our future.

    “Pleased that a woman is at the top of the ticket,” Jan Miller said. “What a great role model for our daughters and granddaughters.”
Obama Camp Fumbles Response to Palin

How Palin Will Help McCain

Obama's Bag of Tricks

Obamacide

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I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place in terms of voting. I've gotten to not liking Obama, but I don't like Palin's (McCain's running mate) politics either.
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Aug 29 2008, 05:47 PM
I know - she wasn't my first choice, but that's okay.  I can't wait to see what the hag and her friends will say about that.

I also thought about this when I heard the news earlier!! Madge was blindly supporting Hillary simply because she's a woman...will she now vote for McCain?! :laugh:

I'm not a fan of either party, and I don't know a lot about Palin's politics or voting record, but from what I've seen/heard about her personally she seems like my kind of gal! :good:

Well the latest news is that Palin's 17 yr old daughter has been left in a family way by her 18 yr old Hockey Player Boyfriend... :blink:

As of last report her daughter will keep the child and marry the Boyfriend...

Even Barack Obama has strongly requested the Media respect Palin's daughter during this time... :good:

But you can bet you bottom dollar Madge and her Media Pals will be making a big issue out of this...

Cos everybody can't be like her and have children by two different fathers along with 11 abortions :grr:
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Ah well...best of luck to them but teen marriages normally end bad.
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Madge just wants a peice of the pie, if he was voted president she would say its because of ME ME ME, and my concert!  :laugh:

Well concerning Sarah Palin the Republican VP candidate, Madonna will either...


A) Say something totally f**ked about her daughter Bristol getting a bun in her oven and making a snide remark to that effect during on of her European Shows...

Or.....

B) Embrace Sarah Palin as her Soul Sister and remark how they share sooooo much in common they both enjoy hunting, children, and being tough broads that hang tough in a male dominated world....

Don't be surprised if Vadge uses Plan B and sends several $$$$$ in Baby gifts to her daughter to show what a sweet and caring lady she really is ! :puke3:
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McCain Camp ‘Rescues’ Flags From Obama Rally
  • Democrats are not caring for their Stars and Stripes. At least that’s the message out of John McCain’s campaign.

    McCain supporters, claiming they rescued 12,000 miniature American flags from the site of Barack Obama’s nomination acceptance speech last Thursday, redistributed the orphan flags to audience members ahead of a McCain rally in Colorado Springs on Saturday.

    The move was an overt swipe at Obama from a campaign whose motto has been “country first.” But Democratic convention organizers claimed the flags were not going to be discarded — but instead were snatched from the site of Obama’s historic address to carry out a “cheap political stunt.”

    McCain supporters said the flags were discovered by a vendor at Denver’s Invesco Field after the conclusion of the Democratic National Convention. The vendor supposedly found trash bags full of flags in and near garbage bins, and turned them over to the McCain campaign.

    Boy Scouts were sorting through 84 bags of flags in Colorado on Saturday, before a McCain supporter had veterans distribute them to the audience.

    “We want to find good homes for these flags,” radio host Dan Caplis said at the rally, adding that whatever flags remained would be placed at memorials throughout Colorado.

    Audience members, who booed when Caplis announced that the flags were left in Denver, waved the flags and chanted “U.S.A” before McCain arrived at the rally with his running mate, Sarah Palin.

    Damon Jones, spokesman for the Democratic National Convention Committee, released a statement saying McCain should applaud the fact that thousands of American flags were “proudly waved” at their convention.

    “But instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play out a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism,” he said.

    Obama has faced attacks on his patriotism since the beginning of the Democratic primary race and has set up a Web site specifically designed to fight such charges.

    The McCain campaign has denied questioning Obama’s patriotism, and even released a statement Friday calling Obama’s most recent comments on the matter “hysterical.”

    Obama said Friday that Republicans are trying to make the election a personality contest, and that “what they’re really saying is ‘we’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, ‘Maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’”

    U.S. Code says the proper method for disposing of an American flag is actually burning, provided it is “no longer a fitting emblem for display.”

    The United States Flag Store, which sells full-sized and miniature flags, says on its Web site that flags can also be put in the trash, when they are “worn, damaged or tattered beyond repair.”
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The Lastest Despatches from Campaign 2008.... :good:

CRUEL SEPTEMBER FOR OBAMA

STREISAND TO SING FOR OBAMA

And one for Darling Madge.....

OBAMA SAYS REINVENTION IS IMPOSSIBLE
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Matt Damon Terrified of Sarah Palin !!!! :blink:

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We cannot afford the possibility of an Alaska hockey mom with no experience having to face down Vladimir Putin, which is why we must elect an Illinois suburban dad with no experience who’ll definitely and immediately have to face him down. Who’s already embarrassed himself with the weakness of his response to Putin’s incursion into Georgia.

The odds he gives for McCain surviving his first term are also off, of course. Exit question: He sneers that Palin was picked for “political purposes” and nothing more. Remind me again, which important policy proposals landed trial lawyer turned first-term senator John Edwards on the national ticket four years ago? And whom did Matt Damon endorse at the time?


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Atlantic's Editor 'Appalled' By Liberal Photographer's Altered McCain Pics

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  • By Noel Sheppard
    September 14, 2008

    As NewsBusters reported Saturday, a freelance photographer hired to shoot John McCain for The Atlantic's October issue has not only admitted to taking a rather sinister picture of the Arizona Senator that she hoped the magazine would use on its cover, but also generated some truly disturbing and disgraceful images of the presidential nominee which she proudly displayed at her website.

    ....Shannon Love over at Chicago Boyz offered this salient opinion Sunday (h/t Instapundit):

    The important thing here is not that Greenberg took and altered the pictures. The import thing is that she felt comfortable bragging about what she did!

    She expected to receive accolades and approval from the Left for her dirty trick. This tells us a lot about what kind of ethics Greenberg believes the Left approves of.

    Given her immersion in the upper class, urban, articulate intellectual culture of the far Left, her assessment is probably correct.

    The far Left has long since adopted the world view of the radical Marxist in which political utility equals truth. Incapable of believing themselves capable of intellectual error or moral failing, they see themselves obligated to acquire power by any means necessary.

    They view democracy as only a means of acquiring the legitimacy to use that power. If they must do so under false pretenses, then they will. They believe that the enormous benefits of their enlightened rule outweigh any consequences of the dishonest acts that bring about that rule.

    Politics is an ugly business and dirty tricks abound. Individuals from every part of the political spectrum stoop to low tactics to win. What we see on the contemporary far Left, however, is a lack of shame about doing so and complete unwillingness to punish those who go too far.

    We should worry if that mindset really does gain power.
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The photographer is a horrible guttersnipe. Plus, her pics are horrible and the ones she did of the crying children (she made a bunch of kids cry to illustrate how she felt about Bush's reelection) were airbrushed way too much, making the kids look plastic and fake.
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It's funny how a small faction of folks are defending her on other sites, saying that she's an "artist". It's not art; it doesn't even qualify as bad art. It doesn't make you think differently or consider things from another perspective, or engender any reaction other than disgust at the photographer herself.

It's merely a childish temper tantrum in pictures, a pathetic attention-whoring outburst from a girl who's ego has gotten too big for her britches. Any half-competent hack with Photoshop can create essentially the same image that she did.
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And of course Madonna's favourite Pet Fool next to Lies Rosenberg had to chime in with this...

Liz Smith...

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James: Pssst...Larry....Pssst...LARRY !!!! Her Depends are leaking !!!

'WELL, you can put lipstick on a hog and call it Monique, but it's still a pig."

I guess we're talking about Madge or youself Liz..... :good:

Are you getting tired of this one?

Well once again give her an A for mindreading ...


I just want to remind you that this is the exact quote made back in 1994 by the governor of Texas, Ann Richards. (Ann was talking about how hard it was to elect women on the basis of "heart, ability and intellect," and she added that those things don't count without money to get women elected.)

Well we know now why she only lasted One Term in Office, Because of moronic comments lie this plus her past membership in a Pro-Nazi Group before Pearl Harbor was about to be exposed...

Since Ann made this joke 14 years ago, there are many more recent video recorded instances of Senator John Edwards, Vice President d*ck Cheney and both of our presidential candidates - John McCain and Barack Obama - using this same quote about the pig and lipstick.

Correct for once Liz, but it was being directed at a Female Governor by a Candidate as a sexist jab...


So, I don't see why Gov. Sarah Palin's supporters are so upset, as this particular quote has nothing to do with her own little wisecrack about pit bulls and lipstick from which she is getting so much mileage.

Once again read the above Liz...

P.S. If you want a good laugh, tune in to actress Gina Gershon's brilliant imitation of Gov. Palin in the video the actress has posted at funnyordie.com

No Liz if I we want a good laugh, we'll read your ridiculous fluff pieces on Madge...

LIZ SMITH DRIVEL 9-12-09


And then she illustrates the hypocrite she is by going off again on how the film MAMMA MIA was being sabotaged at the Box Office by a sexist conspiracy...

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~~ EDIT BELOW ~~

Atlantic Magazine Might Sue McCain-Smearing Photographer
  • By Noel Sheppard | September 15, 2008 - 15:46

    The photographer that viciously smeared John McCain at her website might be facing a lawsuit for violating the terms of agreement in her contract with The Atlantic magazine.

    [click here to view her images of McCain]
Please click link above to read the rest.

HotAir: Why Can't McCain E-Mail? Boston Globe Explained it in 2000

From Rush's site today:
  • Oh, yeah, and then there's the Obama ad on McCain being computer illiterate.

    Do you know what the sources are for this? The Daily Kos, Mother Jones.

    The Obama campaign, the Drive-By Media, they get everything they get from the kook fringe base.

    What we have learned is that McCain's war injuries prevent him from raising his arm. He cannot use a keyboard. He cannot use a keyboard because of war injuries, and here's Obama with an ad based on these stupid kook fringe, lunatic sources of his claiming that McCain is computer illiterate.

    They did this because McCain once said, "I don't use the computer much. I have people do that for me."

    Only because he's got too much honor to say, "My war injuries prevent me." Some news story in 2004 or 2000, I forget which off the top of my head, I've got it in the stack here, did an innocent little story about him independently of his campaign.

    Might have been the Boston Globe or the Boston Herald, I'm not sure which. But he can't use a keyboard, that's why he doesn't use a computer. Obama is out there with these ads saying that McCain is computer illiterate.
This is funny (also on Rush's site)
  • RUSH: We've got another Obama gaffe, and this was a great one if ABC has left it up on their website.

    It was on Good Morning America today, an exclusive interview with Good Morning America, and the subject of this particular interview was campaign low blows versus standard attack ads.

    And Mark Mooney, ABC reports, quotes Obama as having said on Good Morning America today, "If we're going to ask questions about, you know, who has been promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily."

    ABC follows it up and said, "What Obama meant is that McCain, not Obama, has put out more negative ads."

    So I'm going to dispatch Cookie to try to find this, but I'll be interested. If we're rolling on Good Morning America, we've got it. If we have to go to their website, well.

    "If we're going to ask questions about, you know, who has been promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily."

    So ABC has to cover for him here. Well, what Obama apparently meant was that McCain, not Obama, has put out more negative ads. That's today's date, September 15th, 2008.

    ....BREAK TRANSCRIPT

    RUSH: We've got it, ladies and gentlemen. We've got Obama on Good Morning America today, and he's denying here in this bite that his ad is intended to attack McCain for being old. Chris Cuomo says, "Now we see these new ads that come out calling McCain an old man."

    OBAMA: Hold on, I didn't -- I didn't say that. What I said was -- I mean, let's be fair, Chris -- what I said was that John McCain is out of touch.

    CUOMO: But the ad is a negative ad. You paint him as an old man, say you can't use a computer, he's never sent an e-mail, what does that all mean?

    OBAMA: What it means is that we've got a twenty-first century economy and John McCain does not have a vision for how to move that forward.

    CUOMO: So no apologies for that ad?

    OBAMA: If we're going to ask questions about, you know, who has been promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily. (rimshot)

    RUSH: ...So here is Obama, given a chance to say, "You know what, that ad might be a little unfair because I didn't know McCain's war injuries prevented him from using computer. I trusted all that rotgut from Mother Jones and Daily Kos."

    And he won't apologize.

    By the way, his surrogates are running around saying McCain's too old, Claire McCaskill and these other people, we played the audio today.

    There's no question.

    Now, this is a huge gaffe and ABC's covering it up of course on their website, "He's obviously talking about McCain."
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Flea Dip : Michelle Malkin had a very good column today regarding the Atlantic Photo Controversy... :good:

MAG HAS BLOOD ON ITS HANDS

By MICHELLE MALKIN
September 16, 2008

WHEN you lie down with Bush-hating photographers, you get up with public-relations nightmares.

So learned The Atlantic magazine after hiring celebrity lenswoman Jill Greenberg to take portrait shots of John McCain.

Greenberg is Glenn Close to The Atlantic's Michael Douglas in this real-life, photo-journalistic adaptation of "Fatal Attraction." And her McCain imagery was the rabbit in the deranged Greenberg's boiling pot. "I left his eyes red and his skin looking bad," she cackled.

This woman deliberately terrorized children in concerted attempts to make children who were not cooperating cry - all so she could caption photos of the kids with anti-Bush slogans like "Grand Old Party," "Four More Years" and "Apocalypse Now."

The abuse included stripping the children and ordering parents to "step out of the studio for a couple minutes." She also gave the kids candy and then took it away. Greenberg even used her own daughter for her propaganda.

When one photographer sharply criticized her unethical behavior, Greenberg and her husband harassed them on the Internet. The child-abuse-for-art debacle garnered international headlines and became part of her professional biography.

Who recommended her to The Atlantic? Who vetted her? The editors purport to be shocked and disgusted.

Yet this is the same magazine that captioned a photo of McCain "McCain loser" just five months ago on its Web site. And now they say they were "blind-sided?"

The Atlantic has no one but itself to blame for its bad exposure.

malkinblog@gmail.com

MALKIN ARTICLE


And Flea Dip...Guess who wrote a butt kissing piece on John McCain ?

Liz Smith !!!!! :blink:

And we are just getting used to the new super celebrity in our midst - the one from Alaska. Sarah Palin has put every other celeb in the US in the shade. She has erased all of them. Suddenly, Hollywood endorsements, stars singing for Obama, talk-show hostesses speaking up for Obama, and the movie business itself seems jaded, faded, old hat.

IF YOU read The New Yorker article on Mrs. John McCain, you'll know a lot more about this fascinating would-be first lady than we've ever known before. You'll also learn a fresh thing or two from writer Ariel Levy about her husband, the candidate.

Cindy McCain has many philanthropic excellent achievements to recommend her. But she is now busy going to every single factory, town meeting and whistle stop with her husband. She definitely keeps him in her sights. This is quite unlike any other political wife. Although it's not in the New Yorker article, one media theory going around is that she would like him to "owe her" if he is elected.

Well, I don't know if that is true, but I think the only person McCain will owe if elected is Sarah Palin.


LIZ SMITH LINK


Ok now....

Liz Smith a diehard Democrat and Liberal is suddenly being kissy face with the GOP & McCain ?????

Either she's out for something or getting very antsy about having "one of those people" in The White House ..... :ask:
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New York Post: Obama Tried to Stall Iraq Withdrawal - Amir Taheri

From Rush Limbaugh.com (his links expire after one day, so there's no point in giving one)
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    RUSH: Yesterday Amir Taheri in the New York Post quoted the Iraqi foreign minister Hoshyar Zebari as saying that Obama made the demand when he visited Baghdad in July that (paraphrasing) "You guys shouldn't start talking about troop withdrawal now, you should wait 'til the next president's elected."

    The quote here from the Iraqi foreign minister, "He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement on US troop withdrawal until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington. However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops rather than keeping the matter open."

    So basically the foreign minister of Iraq says Obama came over here and tried to get us to delay any action whatsoever on the withdrawal of US troops until after the US presidential election.

    Well, this sent the Obama campaign into a tizzy because this is a violation of law. This borders on treason. He's a presidential candidate. He cannot go over and negotiate for the United States on matters like this.

    Aside from the hypocrisy that was Obama promising everybody to get these troops out of there immediately when he was elected, this would push pack the withdrawal easily to 2011 or 2012.

    He's just a hypocrite on this.

    He wanted Bush to withdraw the troops so that Bush would lose the war, the Democrats would say Bush lost the war, but now that the prospect of winning the war could redound to Obama, he wants the troops there.

    He wants to be the one to declare victory, he wants to be the one to bring the troops out on his terms, and he asked the Iraqis to hold them.


    So his campaign sends out this denial yesterday. The campaign went nuts suggesting that this did not happen, and in the process of denying it, they confirmed it.

    "Obama's national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri's article bore 'as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.'"

    And then she said this in the statement, "In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a 'Strategic Framework Agreement' governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office."

    Well, that's exactly what the Iraqi guy said!

    So they send out this press release denying it, saying Amir Taheri, he's a conservative Iranian, he's lying about this, and in their denial they confirm it, they confirm exactly what Amir Taheri said, that Obama told the Iraqis they should not rush through a strategic framework agreement governing the future of US forces until after Bush leaves office, which is exactly what Amir Taheri said.

    Obama went to Iraq and interfered with US diplomacy and is now denying it.

    This is a sitting duck issue.

    McCain, whoa, do you realize what's just fallen into your lap here, my good friend? Your buddies in the media are going to gloss over this. They're going to gloss over Troopergate.

    In fact, they're going to portray the exact opposite, Troopergate, Tasergate.

    Gonna have to hammer this stuff. If you don't want to do it, let Palin go out and do it. Somebody's gotta go out and hammer this guy on this and his economic ignorance, woeful, scary economic ignorance.
    END TRANSCRIPT
HotAir: Did Obama Just Confirm Taheri?

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Flea Dip: Obama is in violation of THE LOGAN ACT which is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority. However, there is no record of any convictions or even prosecutions under the Logan Act.

Text of the Logan Act

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


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SouthwestRanger
Sep 17 2008, 12:01 PM
Flea Dip: Obama is in violation of THE LOGAN ACT which is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.

The conservative watch dog sites have been pointing out that this story of Obama trying to influence Iraq policy has been under-reported -or altogether neglected- by the MSM (main stream media). Maybe I should post about that in the "MSM = Liberal" thread.

(I haven't been watching tons of news lately; I'm preparing to move out of state next week, plus the local news here is mainly dealing with Hurricane Ike. So I'm relying on summaries of stuff I see in Google News or on news / political sites.)
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