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Aug 11 2009, 10:27 PM
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I remember commenting on this story some time ago, but I cannot find that thread, so I'm starting a new one.
Evidence Supporting Claims in 'Rightwing Extremism' Report Lacks Depth, Group Says- Shortly after its release in April, Americans for Limited Government filed a Freedom of Information Act request with Homeland Security, asking to see the supporting evidence for a report on "right-wing extremist groups" that sparked outrage and questions. Apparently there wasn't much
By Shannon Bream
August 11, 2009
While the Homeland Security Department's report on "right-wing extremist groups" sparked outrage and questions, it was not clear what was behind some of the details in the threat assessment, especially the infamous footnote focusing on "groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
Shortly after the report's release in April, the group Americans for Limited Government filed a Freedom of Information Act request with Homeland Security asking to see the supporting evidence for the assessment.
The report found no specific information that domestic right-wing terrorists were planning acts of violence but warned that they may be gaining new recruits by playing on fears about the recession and the election of the first black president.
The report also warned that disgruntled military personnel could be targeted to join with extremist groups looking to exploit their training and combat skills.
"We expected to receive back some hard-core analysis, some data analysis, looking at crime statistics and current trends that would back up conclusions in the report," said Nathan Mehrens, a news contributor to Americans for Limited Government and a former Labor Department official.
"Instead what we got was a list of URLs to various Web sites, all kinds of news stories across the board," Mehrens told FOX News.
The group dismisses the Web links to numerous media reports as nothing more than an afternoon of surfing the Web.
"What a good intelligent reporter would do is they would take that open-source intelligence information and they'd marry it to other things," said James Carafano, a national security expert at the Heritage Foundation. "They might look at a wide variety of statistical data from alcohol tobacco and firearms, FBI. So you look at crime data, arrest data, look at classified material and investigations.
But based on the Homeland Security response to the information request, so far, it doesn't look like that deeper analysis ever happened.
The assessment was launched under the Bush administration and completed by a career service employee within the department, not a political appointee of either former President Bush or President Obama.
Shortly after the report's release, Secretary Janet Napolitano apologized repeatedly for any unintended offense.
"I was briefed on it. I'm not running away from it," she said. "But I will say it was an assessment. It was not an accusation."
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Mar 6 2010, 12:06 PM
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Every time a deranged man shoots up a bunch of people, the left wing bloggers and the MSM (main stream media) automatically jump to the conclusion that the person is a right winger, a member of the Tea Party, etc., and the shooters always turn out to be far left, liberal, progressive, and Democrat!!
Another example:
About the Pentagon shooter; Update: Stop playing games, MSM. John Patrick Bedell was a registered Democrat-
- A nutball shot two security guards at a Pentagon-area Metro station in D.C. yesterday.
As Patterico reports, he hated Bush and littered the Internet with 9/11 Truther rants.
But just as I passed on playing the blame game with the global warmicides earlier this week, I’m not playing MSNBC/NYTimes-style “gotcha” with this one, either.
I’m with Zombie:
Now, just for a moment, let’s set aside the false guilt-by-association game everyone’s always playing. We all know that John Patrick Bedell and Joseph Stack are basically insane, plain and simple — as are any number of similar whackjobs who periodically go loco and erupt into violence. Violent psychopaths often incorporate some seemingly random overarching theme into their mindset, and on occasion that theme involves politics. Whenever someone like Bedell or Stack goes ballistic, every pundit jumps into the fray and tries to spin the outburst as “exemplifying” the political viewpoint of those with whom the pundit disagrees.
But that only rises to the level of a valid argument when a distinct pattern emerges. If, say, 5,000 suicide bombers in a row are invariably Islamic fundamentalists — well, OK, we’ve got a problem with the belief system, not just with the individuals. Yet I don’t see a pattern in these “going postal” violent outbursts which seem to happen perhaps three or four times per year, every year, no matter who’s in power or who’s president: it seems that the “philosophy” (if you can even call it that) of each of the attackers is unique, idiosyncratic and just plain illogical. Even so, if he starts shooting or killing when a Republican is president, he is deemed a left-wing psycho (see: Charles Manson); if he starts shooting or killing when a Democrat is president, he is deemed a right-wing psycho (see: Joseph Stack). But the truth is, paranoid people simply feel threatened by the external power structure in general, so they lash out at any symbol of authority, regardless of its political affiliation.
So, instead of playing the blame game so unapologetically employed by the Left when they feel they can spin things to their political advantage, I’m not going to say that Bedell’s actions at the Pentagon epitomize the leftist worldview. Rather, he was just crazy, as clearly indicated by his belief in the craziest of modern crazy conspiracy theories, 9/11 Truthism.
Are most Truthers leftists? Yes. But that doesn’t mean that all left-leaning Americans are thereby just as crazy as the most extreme among them; it simply indicates that when a leftist goes crazy in the post-9/11 era, he often gloms onto Truthism as his paranoia of choice.
Put it this way: Leftism fails as a coherent philosophy on its own terms. We shouldn’t try to wring significance from the delusional outburst of someone who just happened to be leftist. There are plenty of ways to logically disembowel Marxism and its numerous noxious contemporary offspring without having to resort to an unnecessary round of political “gotcha!”
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Update: www.Electorates.us has 180 million registered voter records available online (thanks to Anne Horrigan). Thirty-six-year-old John Patrick Bedell’s voter registration records in Hollister, CA are available for any journalist before he/she goes off and labels him a “right-wing extremist.”
Guess which party he registered under in 2005 and was actively registered under as of 2008?
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Republican Officials Attacked and Injured in New Orleans
-(could possibly be cross posted to the "Conservative Derangement Syndrome" thread)
Excerpt:- But the beating victims in New Orleans (left with perhaps permanently disabling injuries) were Republicans, you see. They were emerging from a Republican fundraising dinner at a French Quarter restaurant shortly after attending the Southern Republican Leadership Conference. Their attackers (as appears overwhelmingly probable given all evidence) waved signs saying "Republicans Geaux Home!" and had formed a gauntlet outside the restaurant shrieking anti-Republican insults (YouTube has removed the video) at all who entered and exited its doors.
After visiting them in the hospital and hearing the details of the attack, a friend of the victims reported to a local blog that the attackers had yelled: "They're wearing Palin pins!-let's get ‘em!"
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About the 24 year old guy, James Holmes, who shot and killed 12 people at a Bat Man movie premiere:
Exclusive: Contra ABC News, Dark Knight Aurora, CO Shooting Suspect James Holmes Could Be Registered Democrat - UPDATE: Not Registered?
Corrupt ABC Hacks Claim Aurora Shooting Suspect Was Member of Tea Party – Reports Say Registered Democrat- The corrupt hacks at ABC, including Brian Ross and George Stephanolpoulos, could not wait to go on the air after the terrible shootings in Aurora Colorado, so they could be the jackasses who first try and pin the violence on the Tea Party.
To the dismay of the corrupt hacks at ABC, new reports are saying that James Holmes may actually be a registered Democrat, who most likely voted for Obama in the last election. “the James Holmes for whom records were obtained by Breitbart News registered as a Democrat on June 14, 2011. He registered from an address in La Plata County, Colorado, and his status is listed as ‘inactive.’”
Furthermore, Democrats have already started using this tragedy as their “foot in the door” to try and start cutting back on gun ownership rights, and we expect a full attack on the 2nd amendment, citing the Aurora Colorado shootings as their evidence.
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On Good Morning America, ABC News’ Brian Ross and George Stephanolpoulos suggested that the Tea Party might be connected to the mass shootings early this morning in an Aurora, CO theater during a screening of the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rises. The mainstream media attempted to blame the Tea Party for the Tuscon shootings in January 2011, shortly after Republicans swept the midterm elections. Now, in the critical 2012 elections, the mainstream media seems poised to do the same–and ABC News has led the way.
Here is the exchange between ABC News chief investigator Brian Ross and host George Stephanopoulos about apparent suspect James Holmes:
Stephanolpoulos: I’m going to go to Brian Ross. You’ve been investigating the background of Jim Holmes here. You found something that might be significant.
Ross: There’s a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea party site as well, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don’t know if this is the same Jim Holmes. But it’s Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado.
Stephanolpoulos: Okay, we’ll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
How interesting that Ross and ABC News should think to look to the Tea Party website first–and to broadcast politically volatile information without verifying if that “Jim Holmes” is the same as the suspect.
The “Jim Holmes” page on the Colorado Tea Party website is advertising an event with Middle East commentator Brigitte Gabriel next Thursday, July 26–hardly the behavior of a man who expected to be committing a deadly crime on July 20 for which he would certainly be apprehended and might not survive.
Look for more scapegoating from the mainstream media and the Democrats in the hours and days to follow.
UPDATE: The James Holmes arrested at the Aurora theater was 24 years old and seems to be from Denver, CO, according to a Facebook profile (a similar Facebook profile linked by a local news reporter has not been confirmed as the suspect’s profile, either). There are many people with the name “James Holmes” in the area, and the James Homes on the Tea Party website could match a James Homes from Aurora, CO who is in his fifties and therefore does not fit the description of the suspect. More evidence that Ross, Stephanolpoulos and ABC rushed to blame the Tea Party without confirmation that the suspect is also the Tea Party member.
UPDATE: In an online report, ABC News calls Ross’s suggestion “incorrect”:
An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. Several other local residents with similar names were also contacted via social media by members of the public who mistook them for the suspect.
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Batman shooter James Holmes is a registered Democrat- Just like other shooting, Democrats have not behaved responsibly with guns, and if things continue they might be put on a watch list. The media keeps reporting without proof that all the other shooting and this recent shooting as Republican.
There is no motive reported yet.
Just because someone has a gun that does Democrats are calling for gun control or no guns, so if you focus the blame on one thing then with their logic the same should be applied to Democrats to not have Guns, which is another silly idea. Not registered RNC or DNC members are to blame as the main cause, but when you have an overwhelming number of people in a certain group people naturally start to put the puzzle pieces together.
The theater is a gun free zone, which means people that follow the law can not bring a gun to defend themselves against people that do not follow the law and expect to be arrested or killed due to mental problems. Shooting usually happens in Gun free zones since people that have lost it find it easily to not get shot after they leave non gun free zones.
The media loves these stories which if you see a typical news site they will have multiple articles on it and a lot of views.
No news is good news for you, but not for mainstream news sites. As top democrats advisers say never let a tragedy go to waste, and the media is trying to get as much political exposure out of it for gun control.
Another thing about the news is that they rarely state what race the killer is, but when they do they it’s usually clearly stated that they are white , but if they are not then they do not mention most of the time.
That is done to condition and to not increase fear towards another. Now do you feel you have a right to know this, is another thing to ask yourself. If you can not identity the problem to fix it then everyone is be seen as a suspect and nothing will be fixed. It has come to the point that it should be a police state and that everyone can be bad and do take all forms of defense from people.
Despite the democrats are calling for gun control, the killer could have used other things to attack like bombs as some have before, knives as some have before, vehicles, and many other thing.
Taking one constitutional right away is a slippery slope to take more right away. Fear should not rule the person in how they act, and people not trade security over freedom or else they will loose both as history has shown.
Once a CNN news anchor said on air a few years ago on another incident that they wish the killer was not a Muslim but a Christian while being sad and upset over it. That is not news, and so its obvious that the media is having a field day with this. Sooner or later they will try to find if he is a Christian and they will state it, but if not they will not mention what he is unless Muslim to have an excuse to attack in the middle east for political reasons again. With comments like that they do not present the news, but try to find ways to foist news for political reasons. They know the damage has been done and whatever they retract is not as important as the initial impression. ABC news has said they were sorry for associating James Holmes with tea party, but plenty will not see or believe the retraction. hotair.com
Most things states should not be instantly believe since it is easy to spread lies at first for political reasons, and they know that most will listen to corrections later. So even some things made here can be wrong in what happened in Colorado.
But all eyes should be on the news on how they present it. People seem to not understand why it matters and will continue to let these tragedies happen and wonder why all the time, when they themselves are to blame for not looking for the root cause of the problem. If your boat has water on the inside you don’t only focus only on the tragedy of the goods being damaged inside the boat, but to understand why it happened so that it does not happen again. To ignore makes them responsible for any future damages goods since they ignored the root cause, so since they could not find a solution they are the problem that let it happen again and again. Some people like that get fired, blame businesses and leech of the system to blame others for their problems than their unwillingness to understand.
For a movie about batman to after danger got its bubble popped when it ran away from it’s own premier in danger. Obviously its ironic but reality.
See also
Corrupt ABC Hacks Claim Aurora Shooting Subject Was Member of Tea Party – Reports Say Registered Democrat
http://usbacklash.org
Exclusive: Contra ABC News, Dark Knight Aurora, CO Shooting Suspect James Holmes Could Be Registered Democrat
http://www.breitbart.com
Also check out
Lone gunman kills at least 12, wounds 50 at ‘Batman’ screening in Colo.
http://hotair.com
Rush Limbaugh, Batman, and the Colorado shooting
http://hotair.com
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NYT Quickly Gets Film Critic Roger Ebert to Write Op-Ed for Gun Restrictions in Wake of Batman Shootings
MSNBC's NOW With Alex Wagner Uses Aurora Shootings as Excuse to Slam NRA
Daily Kos [Left wing site] Blames America First for Aurora Shooting
Brian Ross Just the Latest Liberal Reporter to Smear Conservatives After Tragic Shootings
Time Reporter on Aurora Shooting: 'Sometimes There’s Nothing Wrong With Politicizing a Tragedy'
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A brief history of liberals falsely blaming the tea party for violence- The Tea Party Did It!
And if it wasn't the tea party, it was some other rightwing nutjob! /MFM
Gabe posted the following on Twitter this morning, and, to be honest, I'd forgotten about half of them.
FLASHBACK: when Dr. Amy Bishop shot her colleagues, the Left speculated that she was a Tea Partier. In fact, she was an Obama donor.
FLASHBACK: Discovery Channel hostage-taker was supposedly a climate change denier. In fact, he was an enviroweenie, D.Channel intern.
FLASHBACK: the census-taker was supposedly hanged by extremist anti-tax Tea Partiers. In fact, he hanged himself.
FLASHBACK: the Times Square Bomber was speculated to be upset about [Health Care Reform]. In fact, he was jihadi scum.
FLASHBACK: the guy who flew his plane into the IRS in TX was supposedly a Tea Partier. In fact, he quoted from the Communist Manifesto.
FLASHBACK: the guy who was stabbing NYC cabbies was supposedly an anti-Ground Zero Mosque Tea Partier. In fact, he supported the GZM.
FLASHBACK: the Pentagon shooter was supposedly a Tea Party extremist. In fact, he was a 9/11 Truther.
FLASHBACK: when the Ft. Hood shooting happened, the Left speculated that it was a “RWNJ.” In fact, it was a Muslim nutjob.
FLASHBACK: When the Tucson shooting occurred, it was immediately blamed on Tea Party rhetoric. In fact, Loughner was a-political & insane.
Is it just me, or is it odd that the media's go-to suspect in these things is always, always on the conservative side of the political spectrum. It's almost like they have an agenda or something.
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Dark Night by Cal Thomas- By Cal Thomas
July 25, 2012
By now the script should be familiar. A bombing or a mass shooting occurs and the media immediately look for a simple cause. Invariably, they turn to talk radio or some other conservative pit of "intolerance."
Within recent memory are tragedies like the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the 1999 massacre at Columbine, the 2007 Virginia Tech shootings and the 2011 shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others in Tucson. Some politicians and liberal interest groups have sought to link these and other violent incidents to the far right. There have also been incidents when some conservatives have tried to blame other tragedies on "liberals" "secularists" and abortion.
New York Times columnist Paul Krugman wrote on his blog that the "hate-mongers" Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck contributed to the Giffords shooting, despite later reports that the shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, had never listened to their programs. The discovery that Loughner liked "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" forced media types to quickly abandon that smear, but not retract their comments. They're running the same play again.
Within hours of the massacre of 12 people and the wounding of dozens more in a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., Brian Ross, an "investigative reporter" for ABC News rushed on the air to say that he had found a name similar to that of the alleged shooter and that the Jim Holmes he had discovered with a quick Internet search was (gasp!) listed as a member of the tea party movement. In Ross' mind, as well as that of other "journalists," apparently, tea party equals guns, equals extremist, end of discussion. ABC and Ross later issued a limp apology, but the bias was exposed.
Ross was not alone in his rush to misjudgment. The New York Times sought the opinion of film critic Roger Ebert, who predictably argued for more gun control laws even while diagnosing the alleged shooter as "insane." How would more laws force an "insane" individual to act sanely and obey them, especially when that person is intent on committing murder? Ebert didn't say. Even if more gun laws could deter "insane" killers, there are other weapons to choose from --airplanes, homemade bombs containing fertilizer. Should fertilizer be outlawed?
The National Rifle Association, predictably, was denounced on MSNBC and in the Daily Kos, but the left's real endgame was expressed in a recent letter to the editor in The New York Times by Ellyn S. Roth, New York City: "What is it going to take to get rid of the handguns in this country?"
Our government is unlikely to confiscate every gun in America in violation not only of the Second Amendment, but also common sense.
What is always left out of this familiar scenario is an in-depth discussion of evil. Politicians and commentators almost never speak of evil as something that resides deep inside the human heart. All humans possess the capacity for evil. While it rarely rises to the level of mass murder, the capacity for doing great harm to other human beings lurks within each of us. This is what theologians mean when they speak of a "fallen" humanity.
Violent movies like "The Dark Knight Rises" do not make all people emulate the Colorado shooter, anymore than a movie about love causes people to love one another.
Would an armed guard at the theater have helped stem the carnage? No one can say. The guard might have been the first one shot. Some have suggested that at least one armed movie patron could have stopped the shooter. That also is difficult to say. In a darkened theater, a gunfight might have killed just as many, or more.
Sometimes there are no "solutions" that can forestall an evil act. Both President Obama and Mitt Romney set the right tone, asking for prayers for the victims and their families. Calling on that Higher Authority is the proper and perhaps only counterforce to this and other expressions of true evil.
Bozell Column: Another Tea Party Terrorist Smear- The so-called prestige media have built this arrogant sense of professionalism around themselves. They are not just fair and objective, they’re also accurate. The great amateurish unwashed shouldn’t sit at keyboards in their pajamas and attempt the marvelous feats that only they perform.
But when these reporters see an opportunity to discredit conservatives, all that goes out the window.
Shortly after the Batman premiere began at midnight in Aurora, Colorado (Mountain time), Jim Holmes opened fire in a crowded theatre, killing 12 and wounding many more. Six hours later, early in the second hour of “Good Morning America” in New York, ABC host George Stephanopoulos announced that investigative reporter Brian Ross had "found something that might be significant."
Ross declared that a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, had joined the Tea Party, but "we don’t know if this is the same Jim Holmes." How on Earth could a professional journalist drop that bombshell on national television, and in the next breath admit it was pure speculation? Or as the actual Jim Holmes of the Tea Party replied, "What kind of idiot makes that kind of statement?"
One can understand why George Stephanopoulos didn’t blink, since this is the way the Clinton "war room" operated, where political operatives would announce their character assassination of conservatives was proceeding nicely. But this is supposed to be a news studio, not a war room.
Here’s another reason why the Old Media need to stop lecturing the New Media to mind their own business. After unloading that smear on Jim Holmes of the Tea Party, neither Stephanopoulos nor Brian Ross ever made an apology and correction on the air of ABC News. They put out a short apology online, but let the smear stand on air. The smeared Mr. Holmes also told the Daily Caller he received no attempt to contact him or apologize.
Just like NBC, which edited footage on George Zimmerman to make him appear racist: they issued a brief apology statement online, but no on-air apology was seen by their viewers.
This is a cynically insincere slap in the face to the public. Real journalists should make corrections, and apologize when necessary, but the only time TV news people tend to apologize on air is when lawyers are trying to stave off lawsuits and force them to read a statement.
These are the same journalists that love to pretend that they’re America’s most sensitive people, that they know the plight of the downtrodden, and that’s what makes them special.
Walter Cronkite told Time magazine in 2003 that journalists "come up through the ranks, through the police-reporting side, and they see the problems of their fellow man...their domestic quarrels, their living conditions. The meaner side of life is made visible to most young reporters. I think it affects their sentimental feeling toward their fellow man and that is interpreted by some less-sensitive people as being liberal."
But liberal journalists often specialize in dishing out "the meaner side of life" when the opportunity arrives to politicize the crime beat. When a crazed gunman opened fire on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others in Tucson in 2011, MSNBC’s Luke Russert and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman quickly suspected without any troublesome need for facts – and there was zero evidence -- that the Tea Party was involved.
When Joseph Stack plowed his airplane into a Texas office building in 2010, there was The New York Times looking for the "first Tea Party terrorist." The liberal media haven’t found the first one, but that won’t stop them from wild speculation.
When Census worker Bill Sparkman was found hanged in Kentucky with the word "FED" carved into his chest in 2009, that was too juicy a possibility for reporters to resist. Newsweek’s Eve Conant asked "was Sparkman killed in some frenzy of antigovernment rage? Both the Department of Homeland Security and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) have warned of a dramatic spike in antigovernment militia activity."
Conant added, "Then there is the conservative blogosphere, which has been questioning the census since Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann claimed that she would not complete her census form." A few weeks later, when investigators concluded Sparkman committed suicide and manipulated the scene for life-insurance purposes, Conant calmly reported that conclusion and mentioned in passing that the discovery of the body "prompted a national discussion on controversies surrounding the census." Just like ABC’s on-air product, there were no apologies for Newsweek’s fever-brained speculation about "anti-government rage."
It’s this complete lack of regret that underlines why a vast majority of Americans would tell Gallup pollsters they have no confidence in the "news" media, either broadcast or print. Their political shamelessness has left their credibility in tatters.
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NRA, Republicans, Tea-Party and Christians get blamed for Sikh Temple shooting on Twitter (as usual)- This is just so predictable. Leftists on Twitter are going nuts. Not mourning the victims of the Sikh Temple shooting in Oak Creek Wisconsin, but rather blaming the NRA, Tea Party, Republicans and of of course Christians. Oh and Scott Walker, Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann. I’m sure right now Brian Ross is scanning Wisconsin tea party sites to see if he can link the name of the shooter to anyone with similar names too. Check out some leftist hate tweets:
Sikh I’ll assume it’s a none Christian based religion and I’ll also assume that the gunman is a crazy religious nut… And republican
— Django (@FDerron) August 5, 2012
Blood is on the hands of NRA-funded Wis GOP Gov Scott Walker.BLOOD. ON. HIS. HANDS. #wiunion #sikh
— KarlRoves Brain (@KarlRovesBrain) August 5, 2012
And here we go again > More teabagger violence at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin? – po.st/0UrQt8
— p.j. Kansas (@pjkansas) August 5, 2012
-snip rest of tweets (there were many more, not in mood to copy and paste them all)-
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It sounds like the kook who shot up these people does not like conservative/ traditional people
Breaking: Guard shot at Family Research Council headquarters Update: Report shooter said ‘It was about what this place stands for.’ Update: Romney ‘appalled…There is no place for such violence.’ Update: Suspect ID’d as Floyd Corkins of Virginia
Excerpt- Update (MKH): We have a name and age on the shooter. Brian Ross should stay far away from Google:
The suspect, a 28-year-old male from Virginia named Floyd Corkins, “made statements regarding their policies, and then opened fire with a gun striking a security guard,” a source told Fox News.
Update (MKH): The suspect “disagreed with Family Research Council.” Let the media criticism begin. The double standard is astounding.
Also:
FRC Homepage
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Christian organization promoting the traditional family unit and the Judeo-Christian value system upon which it is built. Provides links, commentary, news, and ...
Family Research Council Shooter Worked at D.C. LGBT Center - by Eric Tucker & Pete Yost
Associated Press
Wednesday Aug 15, 2012
A man suspected of shooting and wounding a security guard at the headquarters of a Christian lobbying group on Wednesday made a negative reference about the organization’s work before opening fire, a law enforcement official said.
Police said the man entered the front lobby of the Family Research Council in Washington around 10:45 a.m. Wednesday, began arguing with a security guard and then shot him in the arm. The gunman was subdued by the guard and others and taken into custody but had not been charged as of Wednesday evening.
Another law enforcement official identified the suspect as Floyd Corkins II, and authorities were interviewing Corkins’ neighbors in Herndon, Va., near Washington. Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation.
Corkins, 28, had been volunteering recently at a community center for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.
The Family Research Council strongly opposes gay marriage and abortion and says it advocates "faith, family and freedom in public policy and public opinion."
Corkins made a negative comment about the organization before the shooting, but the reference was not specific, one of the law enforcement officials said.
The guard, Leo Johnson, was in stable condition and was being interviewed.
Corkins had been volunteering for about the past six months at The DC Center for the LGBT Community, said David Mariner, executive director of the community center, which is in Northwest Washington. He usually staffed the center’s front desk on Saturdays, and his most recent shift was about two weeks ago.
’Gentle, Unassuming Young Man’
"He always struck me as a kind, gentle and unassuming young man. I’m very surprised that he could be involved in something like this," Mariner said.
Though authorities did not publicly reveal a motive, advocacy groups across the ideological spectrum condemned the violence, with some casting it as a hate crime.
"Today’s attack is the clearest sign we’ve seen that labeling pro-marriage groups as ’hateful’ must end," Brian Brown, the president of the National Organization for Marriage, said in a statement.
’He always struck me as a kind, gentle and unassuming young man. I’m very surprised that he could be involved in something like this.’
The Family Research Council’s president, Tony Perkins, said the organization’s primary concern was with the wounded guard.
Cops: LGBT volunteer shoots conservative group's guard- (AP) WASHINGTON - A man suspected of shooting and wounding a security guard in the lobby of a Christian lobbying group had been volunteering at a community center for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.
A law enforcement official has identified the suspect arrested in Wednesday's shooting as Floyd Corkins II of Herndon, Va. Investigators were interviewing his neighbors.
Another official says the shooter made a negative reference about the work of the Family Research Council before opening fire. The officials spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation.
David Mariner is executive director of The DC Center for the LGBT Community. He says Corkins had been volunteering at the center for about the past 6 months. Mariner describes Corkins as "kind, gentle and unassuming."
While police have not yet stated what motivated Corkins, a coalition of 25 gay rights groups released a statement through GLAAD condemning the shooting.
"The motivation and circumstances behind today's tragedy are still unknown, but regardless of what emerges as the reason for this shooting, we utterly reject and condemn such violence. We wish for a swift and complete recovery for the victim of this terrible incident," the statement read.
The guard, who was an employee of the FRC, was taken to a hospital in stable condition.
"Our first concern is with our colleague who was shot today," the group's president, Tony Perkins, said in a statement.
...The Family Research Council advocates conservative positions on social issues and strongly opposes gay marriage and abortion.
Perkins was an outspoken defender of Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy's public stand against same-sex marriage, which made the fast-food chain a flashpoint in the nation's culture wars. The Cathy family foundation has funded the Family Research Council.
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Man pleads not guilty in shooting of Family Research Council guard- A man accused of shooting a security guard at the Washington headquarters of a conservative lobbying group pleaded not guilty Friday to assault and handgun charges.
Floyd Lee Corkins II, 28, of Herndon, Va., faces the possibility of decades in prison if convicted in last week's attack inside the lobby of the Family Research Council. According to court documents, Corkins told the guard he didn't like the group's politics before opening fire with a semiautomatic handgun. Corkins was carrying dozens of rounds of ammunition and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches, according to the documents.
Corkins pleaded not guilty at an arraignment Friday afternoon. He also waived the right to a detention hearing, which meant that prosecutors did not have to present evidence to support his continued detention. He will be held without bond until his court appearance, which has not been scheduled but will likely occur before Oct 1.
Magistrate Judge Alan Kay also ruled during the hearing that Corkins was competent to understand the court proceedings and assist in his defense. Corkins underwent a psychiatric evaluation this week.
Corkins' public defender declined to comment after the brief hearing. Corkins wore an orange jumpsuit and spoke only in response to questions from the judge. He did not appear to have any friends or relatives in the courtroom.
The FRC strongly defended Chick-fil-A after the fast-food chain's president voiced his opposition to same-sex marriage. Corkins' parents told investigators that he strongly supported gay rights, according to the documents. He had volunteered at a community center for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, although he was not well-known in Washington's gay community.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled the FRC as a hate group, saying that it has spread false propaganda against gays. Corkins was also carrying the contact information for another conservative group, the Traditional Values Coalition, according to that group's president, who said she got that information from federal investigators.
The wounded man, Leo Johnson, has been released from the hospital, the FRC said in a statement Friday. Johnson is the building manager for the FRC's headquarters. While he was performing security duties at the time of the shooting, he was not armed and not in uniform. He helped subdue the gunman after being shot in the arm, and the city police chief praised him for stopping an attack that could have turned deadly.
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Accused cop-killer left manifesto praising Obama, Hillary, Piers Morgan, gun control
Family Research Council Shooter Pleads Guilty to Terrorism
Shooter targeting Family Research Council wanted to “smear Chick-fil-A in their faces” after murders- Posted by Anne Sorock
Friday, February 8, 2013 at 12:36pm
This past August, the Family Research Council, an pro-Christian values nonprofit that promotes “faith, family, and freedom in public policy,” was the target of gunman Floyd Corkins who opened fire declared in the lobby of their DC headquarters. The professor wrote about how Corkins used the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of ”hate groups” in order to target the FRC, which was also singled out by the Human Rights Campaign for its defense of traditional marriage.
Corkins had 50 rounds of ammunition and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches in his backpack at the time of the shooting. Now the motive for the 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches has been revealed.
Court documents reveal that Corkins told the FBI he wanted to smear the Chick-fil-A sandwiches in the faces of his murder victims. He also told them that he wanted to “kill as many people as possible.” CNS reports:
In an interview with the FBI following the shooting, as provided in the “Statement of Offense,” Corkins said that “(1) intended to enter the FRC that day to kill as many people as possible and smother Chick-fil-A sandwiches in their faces; (2) he intended to kill the guard who confronted him in the lobby (i.e., Johnson); and (3) he had taken substantial steps in the preceding week in furtherance of carrying out the crimes.”
As you may recall, Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno declared war on Chick-fil-A after President Dan Cathy remarked that he supported traditional marriage. Moreno demonized the group, declared he wouldn’t allow them to open in his war, and then later recanted after being roundly shamed by advocates of free speech on both sides of the aisle. Moreno’s witch hunt also inspired the Chicago Occupy activist’s rant against a homeless man reading the bible outside Chick-fil-A, which I captured on video.
It may be tricky for the media to heap all the blame on Corkins’s gun, in this case.
Family Research Council gunman pleads guilty to armed terrorism
Accused cop-killer left manifesto praising Obama, Hillary, Piers Morgan, gun control- If that’s not proof enough that he’s a liberal, he also praised Chris Christie and Jon Huntsman.
The manifesto is predictably long and a bit lighter on Illuminati-type stuff than most other rampaging-nutjob screeds, but lest there’s any doubt what sort of mind we’re dealing with here, a quote:
It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don’t make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.
Charlie Sheen is also informed that he’s “effin awesome.” The suspected death toll thus far: Three people, including a cop, with other cops at grave risk given Dorner’s apparent grudge against them. Federal marshals are now hunting him in four states.
If you don’t want to pick through his rant for the references to Obama, Morgan, the assault-weapons ban, etc., Sooper Mexican and Breitbart have the key excerpts — some of which, as SM notes, were curiously redacted by media outlets after police asked them simply to excise the names of individual police officers who were identified by Dorner.
The rest of this post you can write yourself, especially if you read yesterday’s item about the egregious double standard between the media’s treatment of Palin after Tucson and the SPLC after the FRC shooting.
The left, needless to say, is blameless for Dorner’s actions.
Also needless to say, if his manifesto had extolled gun rights and called Obama “a vile and inhumane piece of sh*t” instead of Wayne LaPierre, this would be a five-alarm media inferno floating on a sea of sweaty rhetoric about The Conservative Movement turning to madness over gun control.
The goal, as it was with Palin and as it always, always, always is in a situation like this, would be to cow law-abiding people on the right into softening their opposition to liberal policies or else be accused of complicity in some random crank’s bloodletting. It’s just a nastier version of Obama bringing kids up onstage when he signed those executive memos on guns last month: Instead of O implicitly accusing conservatives of being accomplices to murder, the immediate aftermath of a prominent act of violence tends to bring accusations that are more explicit.
But when, as today, the facts don’t lend themselves easily to a “right-wing apocalypse” narrative, then suddenly all of the grander meaning in the killer’s political sympathies melts away.
The double standard has become so obvious and so grotesque that I doubt most media liberals would even deny it anymore when challenged on it. It’s unmistakable and indefensible and they know it.
And rest assured, the next time some lunatic kills a bunch of people and it turns out his MySpace profile lists Ayn Rand as one of his “likes” or whatever, they’ll do it all over again. Lessons will not be learned because this isn’t about lessons. It’s about reptilian political advantage.
But I repeat, the left is not to blame here. Although, in the interest of taking every precaution, maybe we should ask CNN to cancel Piers Morgan already. Exit question via John Ziegler: Now that we’ve ruled out blaming Dorner’s actions on the font of all evil that is conservatism, which hobbyhorse will the media turn to in hopes of advancing other causes it supports? Ziegler thinks it’ll be football-related concussions. Dorner did play football in college. Stay tuned.
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Odd how all the right-wing hate and conspiracy comes from people registered as Democrats?
Democrats Blame 'Right-Wingers' for Terrorism
Liberal Writer Issues Warning Over Boston Terrorist’s Ethnicity: ‘Let’s Hope the Boston Marathon Bomber is a White American’
WOULD A SUITABLE WHITE AMERICAN BOMBER PLEASE STAND UP AND MAKE THIS SALON SCRIBE A HAPPY GUY?
Why coverage of 'right-wing' violence irritates conservatives - by Philip Klein
April 19, 2013
Earlier this week, NPR’s counterterrorism correspondent Dina Temple-Raston drew justifiable outrage from conservatives for engaging in the following on air speculation about the Boston Marathon bombing:
The thinking, as we’ve been reporting, is that this is a domestic or extremist attack. Again, this is not because – this has got to be this because officials can’t get away from this idea of timing. April is a big month for anti-government, right-wing folks. There’s the Columbine anniversary. There’s Hitler’s birthday. There’s the Oklahoma City bombing. There’s the assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. And these are all rallying points for these kinds of extremist groups.
Clearly, Temple-Raston didn’t have much evidence to back up her theory and subsequent evidence has undermined her speculation. Further, her conflation of multiple events and ideological movements is particularly absurd. Last I checked, Nazism was not exactly about opposition to a strong role for government.
Beyond this, I think the comment is worth revisiting to explain why it is that conservatives get so sensitive when members of the media leap to blame acts of violence on the “right wing.”
After Breitbart.com and other conservative sites took NPR to task, the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg mused on Twitter: “It is not implausible that far right-wingers committed the Boston bombing. Not sure why conservatives are so upset by such speculation.”
In an ensuing exchange with Josh Marshall, editor of the liberal site Talking Points Memo, Goldberg wrote, “I think it’s fair to say that mainstream conservatism has not very much to do with McVeigh types, no?” [note: McVeigh was a Democrat and an atheist | Another Source].
Though Marshall granted that, he added that “theres abundant history/evidence of deep GOP opposition to focus on far right violence.” Goldberg later responded, “There are dangerous far-right wingers, and we should watch them. Also, there are dangerous jihadists.”
The reason why conservatives get prickly about the focus on “right-wing” violence is that in typical political coverage, the term “right wing” is routinely applied to describe conservatives and conservative institutions. To demonstrate this, and to keep things consistent, I looked back at how NPR has used the term “right wing” in its political coverage over the past year.
Over the course of its coverage, NPR has referred to “right-wing think tanks;” an “extremely right wing talk show host; “right-wing filmmaker” Dinesh D’Souza; “right-wing groups” funded by Sheldon Adelson; and “right-wing blogger” Jennifer Rubin. NPR reports have described “right-wing rock star” Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; “right-wing politician” Margaret Thatcher; and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s “right-wing government.”
NPR reported that if Mitt Romney chose Condoleezza Rice as his running mate, her pro-choice views would be “an invitation for a right-wing revolt.” When Romney picked Paul Ryan, a story recalled that during the primaries, “the (Republican) party’s right wing was conspicuously unhappy with the idea of Romney.”
Also, the campaigns’ mention of Romneycare, “brought howls from the right wing.” A story on George P. Bush’s political ambitions noted that he “has staked out his political territory with the right wing of the Texas GOP, supporting Tea Party candidates.”
A piece on Jim DeMint’s departure from the Senate described how, “there was a note of unhappiness in right-wing circles…” It included a link to an Erick Erickson post at Red State and a quote from Freedomworks’ Dean Clancy.
So, the reason why conservatives get irked when “right wing” is used in reference to major acts of violence — often without an iota of evidence to back it up — is that the term “right wing” is broadly applied by the media to the entire conservative movement.
I don’t think “right-wing” Jennifer Rubin and Sheldon Adelson get pumped every April for Hilter’s birthday, that “right-wing think tanks” like the Heritage Foundation burst out the champagne on the Columbine anniversary, or that “right-wing rock star” Scott Walker is a big fan of the Oklahoma City bombing.
Even putting aside the bias issue, it’s just lazy and imprecise journalism to use the term “right-wing” so broadly that it could refer to anybody from a libertarian who believes in a small centralized government to somebody who wants to restore the Third Reich.
As a rule of thumb, I think journalists should avoid terms like “right-wing” and “left-wing” in basic news coverage.
But given that the idea of a right vs. left dichotomy is so ingrained in our political lexicon, it’s unlikely that shying away from this terminology would make a difference at this point.
Instead, I think that if reporters mean to refer to a threat presented by a specific group — neo-Nazis, Islamic radicals, anarchists, white supremacists, or so on — they should do so. If they have broader category in mind, they should use a broader term, such as “domestic extremism.” But throwing around a term like “right wing” whenever violence strikes — which is associated with conservatism in the American political context — is irresponsible.
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There is a video clip available on the page of the guy giving his statement:
FBI video: Domestic terrorist says he targeted conservative group for being ‘anti-gay’ - Family Research Council (FRC) officials released video of federal investigators questioning convicted domestic terrorist Floyd Lee Corkins II, who explained that he attacked the group’s headquarters because the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) identified them as a “hate group” due to their traditional marriage views.
“Southern Poverty Law lists anti-gay groups,” Corkins tells interrogators in the video, which FRC obtained from the FBI. “I found them online, did a little research, went to the website, stuff like that.”
The Washington Examiner’s Paul Bedard reported that Corkins, who pleaded guilty to terrorism charges, said in court that he hoped to “kill as many as possible and smear the Chick-Fil-A sandwiches in victims’ faces, and kill the guard.” As Bedard explained, “the shooting occurred after an executive with Chick-Fil-A announced his support for traditional marriage, angering same-sex marriage proponents.”
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