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Now it's our time
Topic Started: Feb 2 2014, 10:52 PM (614 Views)
Posted ImageBent20
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All due respect to Peyton, I hope tonight was his last Super Bowl. I expect us to make a few additions this off-season, but ultimately be a legit contender for the Super Bowl next year. No reason we can't be. The AFC is weak, this Broncos team is weak. Here is to the Colts building a defense and being in the Super Bowl next year.
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cedjss
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I will second that
We have got to make improvements
Hopefully they will build the MONSTER
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IronPony1965
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It is Tom Bradys time.
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Eight years since Peyton won one and 10 since Brady did, I believe. Their time has past it would seem.
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MrCCCs
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Doubt their time has passed, but it doesn't have to be over for it to be our time.

But you have to have a defense. I know I'm a bit of a homer when it comes to Peyton, but Denver's pass defense was horrible. There's not a qb in the world under those same conditions that could have won the game for the Bronco's. You win with defense in big games, and a good threat of a run. Seahawks didn't do much on offense given their field position and advantages, but they got first downs and killed any momentum the Bronco's might have got (if they ever got it) any time in the game.

Having a great defense takes so much pressure off the offense, who can play mistake free and take what they get without forcing things.
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cedjss
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I read where Peyton first INT was not his fault
Thomas mis read the coverage

The hawks were clearly the best team
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I meant over in terms of winning SBs.
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ck_in64
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I don't think it's our time just yet. We pretty much need an entire defense. Outside of Mathis and maybe Davis I don't see a play maker or a keeper anywhere on our D. An argument could be made for Freeman I suppose, but really they're just a bunch of guys. This D is going to get us nowhere without major changes.
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Obviously the defense needs to improve, but our defense could at the very least be as good as Denver's next year. Might not be enough to win us a SB, but it can be enough to get us there.
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errsay
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Denver needs to revamp their secondary, but they were missing Von Miller and Derek Wolfe. I really like Trevathan. They will lose Decker and Moreno, but they'll be a force again if Peyton plays.
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Scott
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Don't take this as an officiating bitch cuz it's not, If you watched how Seattle's Db's had their hands all over Wr's all year and especially in the playoffs and they hardly every get flagged I really think you have to consider getting bigger, More physical corners. The ref's are usually going to swallow the whistles in the post season but Seattle was allowed to be very aggressive in regard to making strong contact well beyond the 5 yd pt. all season. The Thomas T.D. for Denver was a prime example, He was being tackled as he made his T.D. catch, No flag. If the league is going to again allow very physical play by Db's you need to jump on the bandwagon.
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DarkHorseColts
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Feb 3 2014, 08:23 PM
If the league is going to again allow very physical play by Db's you need to jump on the bandwagon.
It's the inconsistency by the officials in making (or not making) those calls that drives me bananas.
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Feb 3 2014, 08:23 PM
Don't take this as an officiating bitch cuz it's not, If you watched how Seattle's Db's had their hands all over Wr's all year and especially in the playoffs and they hardly every get flagged I really think you have to consider getting bigger, More physical corners. The ref's are usually going to swallow the whistles in the post season but Seattle was allowed to be very aggressive in regard to making strong contact well beyond the 5 yd pt. all season. The Thomas T.D. for Denver was a prime example, He was being tackled as he made his T.D. catch, No flag. If the league is going to again allow very physical play by Db's you need to jump on the bandwagon.
In fairness to the ref on that play, if he didn't clearly make the catch a flag is probably thrown. Just no point in wasting the time in throwing the flag when it obviously didn't matter.
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Feb 3 2014, 08:23 PM
Don't take this as an officiating bitch cuz it's not, If you watched how Seattle's Db's had their hands all over Wr's all year and especially in the playoffs and they hardly every get flagged I really think you have to consider getting bigger, More physical corners. The ref's are usually going to swallow the whistles in the post season but Seattle was allowed to be very aggressive in regard to making strong contact well beyond the 5 yd pt. all season. The Thomas T.D. for Denver was a prime example, He was being tackled as he made his T.D. catch, No flag. If the league is going to again allow very physical play by Db's you need to jump on the bandwagon.
That SB looked so much like 2003 against the Pats.
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errsay
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I didn't want to bring this up, but their CB's grab on virtually every play. They did when we played them, and they did every time I saw them play. I don't have a huge issue with that, but the rules are the rules. Otherwise, what's the point? The non-call on Thomas near the end of the first half was a joke, while the call against Denver in the END ZONE was laughable. The WR had no chance at catching the ball, and the DB's only fault was not looking for the ball. But he didn't interfere nor faceguard.
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Coltny
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Feb 4 2014, 03:51 AM
Scott
Feb 3 2014, 08:23 PM
Don't take this as an officiating bitch cuz it's not, If you watched how Seattle's Db's had their hands all over Wr's all year and especially in the playoffs and they hardly every get flagged I really think you have to consider getting bigger, More physical corners. The ref's are usually going to swallow the whistles in the post season but Seattle was allowed to be very aggressive in regard to making strong contact well beyond the 5 yd pt. all season. The Thomas T.D. for Denver was a prime example, He was being tackled as he made his T.D. catch, No flag. If the league is going to again allow very physical play by Db's you need to jump on the bandwagon.
That SB looked so much like 2003 against the Pats.


Seattle's D reminded me of the Bears SB defense.
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IronPony1965
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Feb 4 2014, 02:04 PM
I didn't want to bring this up, but their CB's grab on virtually every play. They did when we played them, and they did every time I saw them play. I don't have a huge issue with that, but the rules are the rules. Otherwise, what's the point? The non-call on Thomas near the end of the first half was a joke, while the call against Denver in the END ZONE was laughable. The WR had no chance at catching the ball, and the DB's only fault was not looking for the ball. But he didn't interfere nor faceguard.
Ya, unfortunately this is true.

I think Denvers downfall was not having a guy who is just a speed demon. Hilton demolished those DBs because of his quickness. D. Thomas is fast, but hes a larger breed of receiver. The DBs matched up perfectly with the Denver receivers.
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MrCCCs
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The Superbowl always favors the more aggressive, and those who push the rules to their limit.

Nobody is talking about Denver's pass defense, which is terrible. They gave up many first downs on 3rd and long.
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errsay
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Their ST's were even worse, and no one has talked about that.
Coltny
Feb 4 2014, 03:03 PM
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Feb 4 2014, 03:51 AM
Scott
Feb 3 2014, 08:23 PM
Don't take this as an officiating bitch cuz it's not, If you watched how Seattle's Db's had their hands all over Wr's all year and especially in the playoffs and they hardly every get flagged I really think you have to consider getting bigger, More physical corners. The ref's are usually going to swallow the whistles in the post season but Seattle was allowed to be very aggressive in regard to making strong contact well beyond the 5 yd pt. all season. The Thomas T.D. for Denver was a prime example, He was being tackled as he made his T.D. catch, No flag. If the league is going to again allow very physical play by Db's you need to jump on the bandwagon.
That SB looked so much like 2003 against the Pats.


Seattle's D reminded me of the Bears SB defense.
That's a bit hyperbolic.
Edited by errsay, Feb 5 2014, 11:58 AM.
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Did Denver do anything well in that game? The TD and two point conversion were pretty good, I guess.
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errsay
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They stopped Lynch cold. Problem was Denver's inability to block the front-4. If they could have done that effectively, it could have been a competitive game. Maybe.
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That's true, Lynch had one good run and that was about it. Their coverage was so awful though.
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Feb 5 2014, 01:48 AM

I think Denvers downfall was not having a guy who is just a speed demon. Hilton demolished those DBs because of his quickness. D. Thomas is fast, but hes a larger breed of receiver. The DBs matched up perfectly with the Denver receivers.
Also helped that Luck has good mobility and can buy a little time. What little bit of mobility Peyton ever had left him several seasons ago.
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errsay
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Like I said in another thread, if you don't have a mobile Q.B. that team will kill you.
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