Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Coltpower. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Who do we need?
Topic Started: Mar 11 2014, 11:10 PM (223 Views)
cedjss
Pro Bowl'er
We have to get a starting safety, center, and RG plus could use depth at CB, NT, WR.
Who is left?
In the draft we can find two of these in 2 and 3 round. Might be able to get a NT with 3rd pick
Smith the center from Green Bay is not signed, all WR are still out there.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted ImageBent20
Member Avatar
Headed to Retirement
The WRs might have to reassess their value as there wasn't a rush to sign any of them. None of the guys out there are worthy (yet) of no. 1 money.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
St. Vitus Dance
Veteran
I know it's a pipe-dream but I would love to see Darrelle Revis as a Colt.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ck_in64
Veteran
Unless someone falls in the draft I don't know that I would worry about WR. I think Rodgers could be a #1 WR with some more work. Brazil came on last year and of course Hilton is a great speed option.

I'd be more concentrated on center, guard, NT and safety. Perhaps multiple guards. Give Luck a decent Oline and the running game opens up which in turn opens up the play action game. Think about the damage Hilton could do with a credible play action fake to freeze the coverage for a few seconds.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
errsay
Pro Bowl'er
We need to sign a veteran Center. The rest can be had in the draft.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
CanadianColtsFan
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
We need Chris Clemons. He would be a pretty sizable upgrade on Bethea, if their career trends continue. He is the only S left on the market that can be slotted in as a no doubt starter.

As far as Center, eventually they will sign a veteran to a 1 or 2 year deal. Lots of guys out there who can be 1 year stop gaps and be decent players. Upgrade on Satele for sure.

WR, I can't figure out. I do like the idea of signing a WR, but none of them have signed yet. No idea what the market it. Just because they didn't go on Day 1 doesn't mean the market is soft. Everyone else could just be waiting for Decker to sign, and let his deal set the market. WR I am not all that worried about though, there are enough guys out there that one can be signed for a decent contract, and the draft is really deep at WR, there will be be pretty good options in Round 2 if the Colts want to go that way.


I predict we sign James Jones, Johnathan Goodwin, another pass rusher and draft a S.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheDodo
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
ck_in64
Mar 12 2014, 12:28 PM
Unless someone falls in the draft I don't know that I would worry about WR. I think Rodgers could be a #1 WR with some more work. Brazil came on last year and of course Hilton is a great speed option.

I'd be more concentrated on center, guard, NT and safety. Perhaps multiple guards. Give Luck a decent Oline and the running game opens up which in turn opens up the play action game. Think about the damage Hilton could do with a credible play action fake to freeze the coverage for a few seconds.
I agree, these guys did well towards the end of the season once they were given the opportunity that they didn't get with DHB playing. There is no reason to look to replace them this season when there are bigger needs. See what they can do this season, and re-assess the position at the end of the season. I don't have as high hopes for Rodgers as you, but I think both he and Brazill could be good number 2 guys. Hilton will be our number 1 guy going forward, we just need to find a good compliment. I am hopeful that Brazill or Rodgers can be that guy, and would like to give them a chance to prove themselves before giving up on them.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
CanadianColtsFan
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
The thing is, by nature, you can find Cs and Gs for cheap in free agency, or later in the draft. Signing a guy like James Jones isn't giving up on Rogers or Brazill.

Reggie Wayne
TY Hilton
Darick Rogers
Lavon Brazill

Wayne is coming off ACL surgery and has only 1 year left. I am confident in him returning to form, but he is on his last legs. Hilton is the stud, going to get a big contract in a couple years. Rogers and Brazill are prospects, Rogers particularly has a lot of potential.

However, if Wayne doesn't return to form, then we are a TY Hilton injury away from having a joke of a WR group. With all the WRs still on the market it is hard not to jump at a chance for Decker, Jones, Tate, Sanders among others. Hell, Steve Smith could be interesting once he gets cut. He is still productive when he plays, and on the Colts he won't be the #1 option like he has been his entire career.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted ImageBent20
Member Avatar
Headed to Retirement
I was thinking about Steve Smith, too. Pair he and Reggie with this young group for a year or two more and see where we stand. Can't believe he'd cost that much at 35.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheDodo
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
CanadianColtsFan
Mar 12 2014, 01:49 PM
The thing is, by nature, you can find Cs and Gs for cheap in free agency, or later in the draft. Signing a guy like James Jones isn't giving up on Rogers or Brazill.

Reggie Wayne
TY Hilton
Darick Rogers
Lavon Brazill

Wayne is coming off ACL surgery and has only 1 year left. I am confident in him returning to form, but he is on his last legs. Hilton is the stud, going to get a big contract in a couple years. Rogers and Brazill are prospects, Rogers particularly has a lot of potential.

However, if Wayne doesn't return to form, then we are a TY Hilton injury away from having a joke of a WR group. With all the WRs still on the market it is hard not to jump at a chance for Decker, Jones, Tate, Sanders among others. Hell, Steve Smith could be interesting once he gets cut. He is still productive when he plays, and on the Colts he won't be the #1 option like he has been his entire career.
I think you are doing Brazill and Rogers a disservice to their development by not having them on the field playing.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BlueKoolaid
Member Avatar
Veteran
Grigs has shown that he can find talent at WR in the draft and with undrafted FA's.

He hasn't shown that he can do shit with the OL, with only one showing they can play above average in Cherilus...

Keep throwing money at the OL, Grigs. Someone else will stick.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
AustinColtsFan79
Pro Bowl'er
Rogers, Brazil, and Whalen are 3's or 4's right now. They have the potential to maybe one day be a 2 at best. They have upside and I like them, but one or two big games doesn't mean you go into the season with your number 2 receiver coming off major reconstructive knee surgery and the 2 guys behind him having a total of 37 career catches.

We NEED 1 more receiver. I don't care if we draft a young guy early to develop or if we sign a free agent, but we have too much uncertainty at the position to not bring in one more guy to round it out. The lack of activity for receivers probably bodes well for signing one in FA. There are a lot of solid receivers in the market who aren't outstanding enough to demand big contracts, especially since this is a good draft for receiver. I bet we can nab a good receiver on a reasonable contract. And if not, there are lots of solid guys in the draft. I would rather pick up a vet, since we have the room, and use those early picks on a safety and interior lineman or maybe another corner.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
DarkHorseColts
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
BlueKoolaid
Mar 12 2014, 03:23 PM
Keep throwing money at the OL, Grigs. Someone else will stick.
He *may* be considering throwing a LOT of money at it...
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/443827166137286657

http://nflspinzone.com/2014/03/12/alex-mack-poached-four-teams-colts-ravens/
A follower asked Rapoport if the Indianapolis Colts are in on the Mack sweepstakes, and the NFL Network insider replied that the Colts are indeed one of the interested teams, and he added that the Baltimore Ravens are also interested.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
AustinColtsFan79
Pro Bowl'er
I've changed my mind. I want us to steal Alex Mack and draft a receiver. :)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BlueKoolaid
Member Avatar
Veteran
At least we know what we're dealing with at WR. (Even if Reggie doesn't come back 100%, HE'S REGGIE FRIGGIN WAYNE. We all know him.) I don't know shit about what we're going to do with the interior of the OL, and neither does anyone else. Relying on some mid to late round rookie to start and block for our franchise doesn't fill me with all that much confidence.

I'd like to get another WR. Sure. I'd love to have a few of those guys available. But it's not like either one of them will ever get to see the ball if Luck is sitting on his ass half a second after the snap...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
AustinColtsFan79
Pro Bowl'er
I agree, interior oline is our absolute number 1 need right now. It's not even close. The problem is that there aren't many of them left out in free agency and the ones left we'll probably have to overpay for to get them. I'd love to see us sign one of the couple centers left, if we can get them at something at least close to reasonable contract, and draft a guard.
Edited by AustinColtsFan79, Mar 12 2014, 03:48 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BlueKoolaid
Member Avatar
Veteran
Yeah. Had to double check to see who all is out there.

There's still some options. Not many, but still a decent pile. I'm sure they'd take our money.

Wondering if we could talk some of those OT's out there into moving inside...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
DarkHorseColts
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
AustinColtsFan79
Mar 12 2014, 03:46 PM
The problem is that there aren't many of them left out in free agency and the ones left we'll probably have to overpay for to get them.
Undoubtedly, it will take an exorbitant contract to pry Mack away from the Browns. At a certain price point it has to be the smarter move to walk away and move on to Plan B. But I am certainly intrigued by the reported interest :-D
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
errsay
Pro Bowl'er
BlueKoolaid
Mar 12 2014, 03:23 PM
Grigs has shown that he can find talent at WR in the draft and with undrafted FA's.

He hasn't shown that he can do shit with the OL, with only one showing they can play above average in Cherilus...

Keep throwing money at the OL, Grigs. Someone else will stick.
Not unlike his predecessor, who has always admitted such.
Plethora of excellent WR's in this draft. Now if Steve Smith or James Jones want to play for 3M, I'm all in.
Edited by errsay, Mar 12 2014, 04:16 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
CanadianColtsFan
Member Avatar
Pro Bowl'er
TheDodo
Mar 12 2014, 02:59 PM
CanadianColtsFan
Mar 12 2014, 01:49 PM
The thing is, by nature, you can find Cs and Gs for cheap in free agency, or later in the draft. Signing a guy like James Jones isn't giving up on Rogers or Brazill.

Reggie Wayne
TY Hilton
Darick Rogers
Lavon Brazill

Wayne is coming off ACL surgery and has only 1 year left. I am confident in him returning to form, but he is on his last legs. Hilton is the stud, going to get a big contract in a couple years. Rogers and Brazill are prospects, Rogers particularly has a lot of potential.

However, if Wayne doesn't return to form, then we are a TY Hilton injury away from having a joke of a WR group. With all the WRs still on the market it is hard not to jump at a chance for Decker, Jones, Tate, Sanders among others. Hell, Steve Smith could be interesting once he gets cut. He is still productive when he plays, and on the Colts he won't be the #1 option like he has been his entire career.
I think you are doing Brazill and Rogers a disservice to their development by not having them on the field playing.
The Colts were in the divisional round of the playoffs last year, with the core of the team not yet in their prime. The Colts are Super Bowl contenders. We don't owe it to any player to have them play to help their development. We are trying to win.

If Demarcus Ware wanted to come here, enjoy the bench Bjoern Werner, I'm trying to win.
https://twitter.com/holderstephen/status/443850095235051520
Edited by CanadianColtsFan, Mar 12 2014, 04:48 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
« Previous Topic · 12th Man · Next Topic »
Add Reply

--------
Cooper Blue created by SlyCooperFan1 from Outline & ZNR