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Irsay Arrested
Topic Started: Mar 17 2014, 09:10 AM (673 Views)
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Derp

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10621335/jim-irsay-indianapolis-colts-owner-arrested-suspected-dwi
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So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
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Mar 17 2014, 09:27 AM
So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
I believe he had not had a drink in a long time when he said that, the problem with addiction is that you can relapse at any time. This hits close to home for me and my family. I hope he gets the help that he needs. He is sick.
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I don't know when it happened, but people weren't necessarily wrong to assume he was drinking based on some of his bizarre twitter posts. It is sad and I hope he is OK.

Not good to have your owner arrested for DWI when you're trying to send a message to your players to keep it straight and avoid such problems.
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Mar 17 2014, 10:18 AM

Not good to have your owner arrested for DWI when you're trying to send a message to your players to keep it straight and avoid such problems.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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I believe he was arrested for consuming alcohol and in possession of controlled substance(s) i.e. pills. Not surpised at all by this. The man has looked awful for the past 2 years or more. Hopefully, a blessing in disguise. Some people have it TOO easy.
Edited by errsay, Mar 17 2014, 12:39 PM.
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Affluenza strikes again.
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I've got a coworker who a few weeks ago was diagnosed with cancer. Now he is worried about his family, job, and bills + whether he will live.

At age 54 and the owner of a team that plays a game, Irsay evidently doesn't feel that his 1.6 BILLION is enough to make him happy enough to keep him away from this type of behavior. I hope he has a press conference, apologizes, takes no questions, and then disappears into rehab until the season starts.

The team really doesn't need him, just his money. It'll run fine with Grigson etc.
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Mar 17 2014, 01:16 PM
I've got a coworker who a few weeks ago was diagnosed with cancer. Now he is worried about his family, job, and bills + whether he will live.

At age 54 and the owner of a team that plays a game, Irsay evidently doesn't feel that his 1.6 BILLION is enough to make him happy enough to keep him away from this type of behavior. I hope he has a press conference, apologizes, takes no questions, and then disappears into rehab until the season starts.

The team really doesn't need him, just his money. It'll run fine with Grigson etc.
Skip the apology and just go to rehab.


Also, money is not a source of happiness. Most people with money can tell you this.
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I understand what Coltny is saying but I think the Colts do need him.
Who decides about the up front money? How about all the other things an owner controls? I think Jim Ersay has been a good owner for the Colts but this is just a result of a long standing problem. The NFL and Indianapolis have a lot at stake in this.
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Does Irsay live in Carmel?
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After digesting the situation, it's very easy to poke fun at the owner. We should take a minute to reflect that not everyone is perfect. Far from it, in fact. Irsay made some mistakes lately. I'm sure this isn't the first time he fell off the wagon, but hopefully this is the last.

As a fan of the Colts, I can say that I've felt the love from Irsay. Not a lot of franchises can say that their owner loves their fans. But it seems that a lot of decisions Irsay has had to make regarding our team, he's doing whatever he can to help build a winner and keep us fans happy (irrespective of the cost of tickets)

Drug and/or alcohol addiction can't be easy to beat. I've never suffered from either, but I can only assume that it would take something pretty serious for him to be willing to put his life on the line for. It's very easy to mock something that we don't understand, and unless you've been there, you shouldn't really say anything other than to wish him well. Money can buy a lot of things, but it will never buy your freedom from such a disease. I'm sure Jim wishes that he could just say he's done with it, and that's it. I will keep him and his family in my thoughts as I wish him nothing but the best.

Go Colts! Go Irsay! Let's win this thing
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1. Doesn't say he was drinking.

2. Pills are messed up...
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I always said that meeting Jimbo was on my bucket list. After all, he owns the Colts and owns a guitar collection I could only dream of. He'll be fine. He's got alot to live for. Daughters being at the top of that list. Maybe he needs to have a heart to heart with his coach. I realize that he is suffering from a disease. I have lost too many to similar afflictions. But he has many more resources than they ever did. He needs to start utilizing them.
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While it's going to be news when an owner gets a DUI, I think it's also evident that this is bigger news because of Robert Irsay's history with drinking and Jim's own issues with it. That and he's been a lightning rod at times with his comments. That his arrest is a top story on most internet sites seems a little much.
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I agree with errsay but perhaps his resources are the biggest reason for his problem. The long term implications of this are huge. The next two years are crucial in Luck's career. Now we have a long term problem.
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Don't fret. Jimbo will take his problems to some center in Malibu and come back refereshed and relieved, in all likelihood. I doubt that this personal "setback" will have any long term ramifications on the franchise. The team is and has been, a family business, and I don't see any reason for panic. By the time the new season is upon us, he'll be giving interviews and looking a whole lot healthier.
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Mar 17 2014, 01:16 PM
I've got a coworker who a few weeks ago was diagnosed with cancer. Now he is worried about his family, job, and bills + whether he will live.

At age 54 and the owner of a team that plays a game, Irsay evidently doesn't feel that his 1.6 BILLION is enough to make him happy enough to keep him away from this type of behavior. I hope he has a press conference, apologizes, takes no questions, and then disappears into rehab until the season starts.

The team really doesn't need him, just his money. It'll run fine with Grigson etc.
Yes, because rich people are immune to the problems that regular people like you have.
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I hope Irsay finds help for whatever his addictions are. As previously stated, he does seem to really care about his team and we, the fans. The article says he was doing 10 in a 35, quite different than 60 in a 35 but still not good.

The only part of the article I find interesting is where the Colts organization says they will continue to support Irsay. Doesn't he own them? How could they not support him?

http://fox59.com/2014/03/17/irsay-leaves-hamilton-county-jail-offers-no-comment-on-arrest/#axzz2wGGCXGuL
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Mar 17 2014, 06:03 PM
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Mar 17 2014, 01:16 PM
I've got a coworker who a few weeks ago was diagnosed with cancer. Now he is worried about his family, job, and bills + whether he will live.

At age 54 and the owner of a team that plays a game, Irsay evidently doesn't feel that his 1.6 BILLION is enough to make him happy enough to keep him away from this type of behavior. I hope he has a press conference, apologizes, takes no questions, and then disappears into rehab until the season starts.

The team really doesn't need him, just his money. It'll run fine with Grigson etc.
Yes, because rich people are immune to the problems that regular people like you have.
Considering the fact that he luckily didn't hit/kill/maim someone while he was driving in his"'altered" state, I guess you are right, he's just like us regular guys.

And like us regular guys, I sympathize that he's going to have to worry whether his medical coverage is going to be able to cover his rehab expenses, or whether he'll have to collect disability while he's away, or whether he'll even have a job to go back to when his rehab is finished, not to mention that he'll probably use up all of his sick and vacation time.

From where I sit, Irsay appears to have done a lot for the franchise and for Indy. He apparently has a problem, or multiple problems, which affect all people. I do hope that he successfully helps himself out.

But his illness is not what's at fault, it is his inability to deal with it, despite his unique situation, that I fault him for. His unique situation revolves around the fact that he has the resources - money, contacts (medical or otherwise), and intelligence - to deal with this without risking his life or the lives of others, or bringing comment on himself, his family, and his professional organization. He could have woken up one day and made a phone call, walked into the back door of a Dr.'s office, and then easily slipped into any treatment center in the world for a stay that took as long as he needed.

He has seen first hand how this sort of thing affects the NFL, which he is apart of, he is smart enough to hear and see the everyday warnings involved with his problem, he even has/had a relationship with a guy like Tony Dungy, who I'm sure would be more than willing to have helped him.

I do have sympathy, but if I'm going to have a lot of sympathy, I'd rather it be for someone like Jim Kelly. Now there is a sad, but also a brave and remarkable person who can be someone that us regular people can admire and look up to.

Yes, Irsay may have all of the same problems that us regular have, but he also has many advantages in dealing those problems that we'll never have.
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Mar 17 2014, 02:14 PM
Does Irsay live in Carmel?
He lives on 106th street west of 31.
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Mar 17 2014, 09:27 AM
So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
His blood alcohol level was 0.01.

:wait:
Edited by Red Oak, Mar 17 2014, 07:30 PM.
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Mar 17 2014, 07:28 PM
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Mar 17 2014, 02:14 PM
Does Irsay live in Carmel?
He lives on 106th street west of 31.
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Mar 17 2014, 09:27 AM
So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
His blood alcohol level was 0.01.

:wait:
Pills can mess you up just as much as liquor. Who knows what his Oxy level was
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Mar 17 2014, 07:36 PM
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Mar 17 2014, 07:28 PM
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Mar 17 2014, 02:14 PM
Does Irsay live in Carmel?
He lives on 106th street west of 31.
Bent20
Mar 17 2014, 09:27 AM
So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
His blood alcohol level was 0.01.

:wait:
Pills can mess you up just as much as liquor. Who knows what his Oxy level was
They took a blood sample so they will be able to tell.
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Mar 17 2014, 07:36 PM
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Does Irsay live in Carmel?
He lives on 106th street west of 31.
Bent20
Mar 17 2014, 09:27 AM
So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
His blood alcohol level was 0.01.

:wait:
Pills can mess you up just as much as liquor. Who knows what his Oxy level was
I was going to add... I'll drink to that, but I thought that would be in bad taste.
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At a time like this, having a guy like Polian at the helm wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm not talking about GM duties, the draft, player selection, contracts etc. I'm talking about somebody well respected to step up and be the face & voice of the franchise while Irsay deals with his demons.
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I'm sure that his attorneys will plea on the side of pain medications, for which they will have to provide prescriptions from reputable doctors. That in and of itself will not exonerate him from the arrest, but it could grant some leniency from the league offices, along with the conditional admittance to a rehab facility. B.T.W. The team has known about his use and abuse of these meds for some time now, and have offered to intervene on several occasions without result. But isn't "intervention" without permission?
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Mar 17 2014, 08:57 PM
At a time like this, having a guy like Polian at the helm wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm not talking about GM duties, the draft, player selection, contracts etc. I'm talking about somebody well respected to step up and be the face & voice of the franchise while Irsay deals with his demons.
Fair point, but I have faith in Grigson's accumen for handling this issue. I for one would hope that Tony Dungy gets involved in getting him the right help.
Edited by errsay, Mar 17 2014, 09:02 PM.
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Mar 17 2014, 07:28 PM
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Mar 17 2014, 02:14 PM
Does Irsay live in Carmel?
He lives on 106th street west of 31.
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Mar 17 2014, 09:27 AM
So much for his claims that he no longer drinks.
His blood alcohol level was 0.01.

:wait:
I haven't seen any reports about his blood alcohol level, but a few said he was arrested for "drunken" driving. Drunk means intoxicated with alcohol. Obviously misreporting if it's true he didn't have any alcohol in his system.

http://nesn.com/2014/03/colts-owner-jim-irsay-arrested-on-drunken-driving-charges/
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The 0.01 figure was reported on the local (Indy) ABC affiliate this evening.
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People will see "DUI charges" and automatically convert it to drunk driving charges, not realizing you can be slapped with a DUI charge for operating under anything that changes your state of mind.
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Don't care how much money he has or what resources he has available to him. I will not judge him, compare him to anybody else, or wish him anything but the best. We have no idea the situation he finds himself.
Edited by Weatherman, Mar 18 2014, 01:58 AM.
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