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| AustinColtsFan79 | Sep 20 2014, 07:27 PM Post #31 |
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One-two-three is Luck, Mathis, and Wayne. You can argue the order, but those guys are unquestionably our most important guys. You can make a case for Allen after that, but even then you've got some solid competition. |
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| TheDodo | Sep 21 2014, 01:10 AM Post #32 |
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I do not equate importance to talent. A QB will always be more important than a TE, but that doesn't mean the QB is better than the TE. As great as Luck has been at his job, Allen has been just as good and better at his job. I think if Allen played last year you guys might see things differently. |
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Sep 21 2014, 12:24 PM Post #33 |
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So you are saying you think Allen is a better TE than Andrew Luck is QB? Even that statement is a little outlandish. |
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| LACOLTSFAN | Sep 21 2014, 12:32 PM Post #34 |
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Allen is a good all around player: Good hands, good blocker, good YAC. IMHO, he will play in the NFL for 12-15 years and be a core player for his team. But he is not a super star. Andrew Luck is a super star. |
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Sep 21 2014, 12:43 PM Post #35 |
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Allen could become a superstar. Pep has to get him more involved. |
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| JediColt | Sep 21 2014, 12:45 PM Post #36 |
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Isn't it a little premature to say that about Allen? It took him a while to get onto the field as a rookie, and he was incredible once he did. He was on injured reserve all year last year, and we're 2 games into this season. At this same point in his career, Reggie Wayne was called a bust by Colts fans, now he's a Hall of Fame All Pro and without a doubt a Super Star. Lets not declare we know how the rest of Allen's career will play out too early. |
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| IronPony1965 | Sep 21 2014, 04:14 PM Post #37 |
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He isnt a superstar yet because they only use him as a freaking blocker. Had a decent game today though. |
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| LACOLTSFAN | Sep 21 2014, 04:58 PM Post #38 |
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| IronPony1965 | Sep 21 2014, 10:29 PM Post #39 |
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So if they use Allen over Fleener, you dont think he could end up being a superstar at TE? I certainly think he could be. Being a true dual threat as a blocker and a receiver at the level he can do them is rare. |
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| LACOLTSFAN | Sep 22 2014, 12:29 AM Post #40 |
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I am not expecting it, but I truly hope it happens. I do not see the explosive speed that creates separation of the elite tight ends. There is one exception: Jason Witten. To me, Allen seems like a lesser version of Witten. But that is not a bad thing. As I said, I expect him to be a core player for 10-15 years. Maybe make a Pro Bowl or two. But not reach Super star level. |
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| IronPony1965 | Sep 22 2014, 01:07 AM Post #41 |
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Obviously there are TEs like Gronk and Vernon Davis that are rare specimen. But if you want to talk speed, Reggie Wayne is probably tied for slowest receiver on the team and has been for quite some time. His overall skillset has helped him overcome that to superstardom. I believe the same can and will happen to Allen if they use him correctly. Of course, your definition of superstar may be a guy who leads the team in all receiving categories and such. A flashy player. Definitions do differ. |
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| Coltny | Sep 22 2014, 11:41 AM Post #42 |
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Right now I just hope that Allen makes it through the year injury free. If he does, his amount of talent will become self evident. |
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| errsay | Sep 22 2014, 02:34 PM Post #43 |
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John Mackey was maybe the greatest TE of all time, but he wasn't a "better" player than John Unitas. I guess you see where I'm going with this... |
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| TheDodo | Sep 22 2014, 04:14 PM Post #44 |
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Luck is not Johnny Unitas, especially not at this point in his career. |
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| errsay | Sep 23 2014, 12:04 PM Post #45 |
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And Allen isn't Mackey. |
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| Manitoulin | Sep 23 2014, 01:39 PM Post #46 |
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I'm biased but how can Allen raise his catch numbers if we do not throw him the ball? I watched a lot of Mackey & Unitas and they did throw him the ball. We could even help his blocking if we made him a target once in a while. He doesn't have many drops. |
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| errsay | Sep 23 2014, 03:24 PM Post #47 |
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It's only 3 games after a season-ending injury. Be patient. Just let him stay healthy and the rest will take care of itself. |
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