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Say bye to Richardson
Topic Started: Jan 27 2015, 11:31 PM (2,153 Views)
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The suspension, although could be challenged by the NFLPA, is SUCH a smart business move by the team. By doing the 2 game suspension, it bridges the 2 seasons together...which means we can cut him with no penalty and save over $3 Million. It sucks that we gave up a pick for him, but this is best case scenario

http://www.businessinsider.com/trent-richardson-contract-guarantees-voided-2015-1
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rccolts
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I wonder if this move also gets the Colts off the hook for the cap hit as well?

I'm not sure but just because they don't have to pay him may not necessarily mean they don't take the cap hit.
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cap hit or not, we aren't in any type of cap trouble. The fact that the team can save anything by cutting him is great news, and most likely reason enough to push him away. This guy was AWFUL.
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errsay
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Expect the NFLPA to challenge, but I would think that a voided clause would remove a potential cap hit as well.
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Rjinda
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What's confusing for me and maybe someone can explain is the timing of this. I would expect if the Colts were to void the contract because T-Rich violated the terms it would have to be done before next season starts. The fact that it hasn't been done may mean they are still exploring this from a legal option. Does anyone know how this would work from a timing perspective?
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Jan 28 2015, 02:32 PM
What's confusing for me and maybe someone can explain is the timing of this. I would expect if the Colts were to void the contract because T-Rich violated the terms it would have to be done before next season starts. The fact that it hasn't been done may mean they are still exploring this from a legal option. Does anyone know how this would work from a timing perspective?
I could be wrong because I know very little about this type of thing, but I believe it hinges on the fact that the two game suspension bridges between this season & next thus allowing the Colts to void his contract for next year. That is my understanding anyway.
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Coltny
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It appears that TPoor - I mean TRich - main problem is from the neck up. He had a wonderful opportunity in Indy, and frankly, I'm surprised that he flamed out so badly.
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Exactly. Because this suspension bridges 2014 and 2015 season together, they are off the hook, but still unsure about the cap hit or not. like i said, i could care less if we take a cap hit. he needs to get the F off the team. he's waisting a perfectly good roster spot. I'm assuming they would be on the hook for something if he was still on the team by a specific date. but why would they do that? he's not finally going to 'get it'.
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Rjinda
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I guess my point is that if they really are off the hook for the contract why hasn't he already been released?
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Myopia....celebrating the loss of a RB as if replacing him will mean we'll suddenly have a running game...is stupid...no, its myopia. Put on the spectacles and try to focus on who really needs replacing. The dudes who can't block, maybe? Everybody's hero averaged 3.4 yards in our two playoff games will be your next celebration...after he is benched. Wake up and smell the stink of the OLine. I haven't read a pile of posts on here where you guys write disparagingly about Thornton, a disappointment of the first order. Our OLine sucks and we somehow find the keys to blame the guy or guys who get nailed as a result of their inability to do an adequate job of blocking.
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Rjinda
Jan 28 2015, 08:25 PM
I guess my point is that if they really are off the hook for the contract why hasn't he already been released?
No reason to rush the decision. Richardson does hold some value in terms of depth. He isn't a great runner, but he is a solid blocker, receiver, and rarely fumbles. He could be a solid FB. You could do a lot worse for a 4th stringer. They often are terrible at blocking, might have fumbling issues, and only marginally better as a runner. Basically, they don't need to get rid of him before they know they will be getting someone they like better. At this point they probably have a lot of prospects, but until free agency and the draft it is kind of difficult to know if you will land any of them. Odds are there will be someone out there better, we will sign him, and drop Richardson. It just isn't going to happen until it has to.
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Jan 29 2015, 12:30 AM
Myopia....celebrating the loss of a RB as if replacing him will mean we'll suddenly have a running game...is stupid...no, its myopia. Put on the spectacles and try to focus on who really needs replacing. The dudes who can't block, maybe? Everybody's hero averaged 3.4 yards in our two playoff games will be your next celebration...after he is benched. Wake up and smell the stink of the OLine. I haven't read a pile of posts on here where you guys write disparagingly about Thornton, a disappointment of the first order. Our OLine sucks and we somehow find the keys to blame the guy or guys who get nailed as a result of their inability to do an adequate job of blocking.
Advanced, Is this an Alabama thing? There have been countless post's in regard to the O-line, Countless posts on how many want the O-line to be the primary focus of the upcoming draft/FA period. I think you are misguided in your Myopic thought's, Seems may be more of a Crimson blinder problem with you. T-Rich simply was not a good RB with the Colts. Do you disagree with that?
If you read this forum regularly you will notice that virtually all of the posters know the O-line is a huge problem, I would suggest you put on your glasses and read other topics other than just one about T.Rich before calling out posters in regard to their blindness in regard to the O-line. Anyway, No I don't think cutting Richardson will fix the running game, I also don't think Richardson is a very good NFL running back. Boom isn't my hero, He is however a more productive running back than T.Rich. I can see it, The coaching staff could see it, Most the posters here could see it, Take off those damn Crimson blinders and then perhaps you could see it as well.
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Jan 29 2015, 12:30 AM
Myopia....celebrating the loss of a RB as if replacing him will mean we'll suddenly have a running game...is stupid...no, its myopia. Put on the spectacles and try to focus on who really needs replacing. The dudes who can't block, maybe? Everybody's hero averaged 3.4 yards in our two playoff games will be your next celebration...after he is benched. Wake up and smell the stink of the OLine. I haven't read a pile of posts on here where you guys write disparagingly about Thornton, a disappointment of the first order. Our OLine sucks and we somehow find the keys to blame the guy or guys who get nailed as a result of their inability to do an adequate job of blocking.
Are you kidding me? The O-Line? have you ever watched the actual tape of this guy running? he runs to the opposite side of a hole. He can't see the field. when there are massive holes, he runs into defenders. he's a moron. he needs to go!

Just go on google and type in 'trent richardson missing holes' and you will be shocked at how decent our o-line is at run blocking, and how he constantly makes the wrong decisions. he sucks! the o-line isn't peachy either, but Richardson sucks and we are better off without him
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So the third pick in the 2012 draft has been replaced by a P.S. player, and it's all due the problems of the O-Line? Forget the glasses. Get a guide dog.
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Rjinda
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I was a poster on the other board for awhile and Advanced was a one trick pony and part of the reason I came over here. For awhile I found him funny, but after awhile if every post did not include a comment on how bad the OL was your intelligence was questioned. A real discussion stopper. I have enjoyed the discussion on this board much more, different points of view but well thought out arguments and a respect for other opinions.
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Jan 29 2015, 11:02 AM
So the third pick in the 2012 draft has been replaced by a P.S. player, and it's all due the problems of the O-Line? Forget the glasses. Get a guide dog.
:rockon:
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advanced32
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Don't give a shit about Bama players who move on....I just know more about'em. If the a-holes who claim I'm so "whatever" really knew anything about me, they'd know that I hated the trade from DAYONE that brought him here. They'd also know I rarely call people a-holes...I prefer idiots. TR has been a disaster but that is on the GM. He didn't look like a great back in Cleveland but they had a better line than we had. What would you guys have deduced from those facts? His response was, TRADE A #1 FOR HIM!! I don't hear near enough crap dished out for the trade. The failure to acknowledge the OLine woes by the GM and the coaches is inexcusable. But, for dumbazz fans to prefer to focus on a RBs failure to be the answer is much more understandable. But, damn, when are you gonna get it. With this line what kinda back would be perfect? We don't have one on the roster cause there ain't one out there anywhere.

BTW, I guess I'll start posting on here more often since I'm so popular.
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Feb 3 2015, 01:26 PM
...The failure to acknowledge the OLine woes by the GM and the coaches is inexcusable. But, for dumbazz fans to prefer to focus on a RBs failure to be the answer is much more understandable. But, damn, when are you gonna get it...
Advanced, it is you that just does not get it.

I challenge you to find a post where anyone has argued with you that the OL is just fine. Let me save you the trouble - you won't find one. No one believes, as you want to continually argue, that the OL is OK. But just because the OL is not good does not mean that TRich is also not good. Yet anytime anyone wants to complain about him you go into your little hissy-fit about the OL.

And what makes you say the GM & coaches fail to acknowledge the OL woes? Hasn't Grigson brought in FA's &/or drafted OL in every off season that he has been here?
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The Oline is not built to the strengths of Richardson. He very well could go somewhere else and have decent success. The success of on spot is never the responsibility of just that one player. Football is the ultimate team sport, and all men must be pulling in the same direction to be good. That's why football is such a great game.
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Feb 3 2015, 01:26 PM
BTW, I guess I'll start posting on here more often since I'm so popular.
Yippee.
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I used to think I could tell when Advanced was pulling chains and just being sarcastic for the fun of it.

Now i have no freaking idea.
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I still think TRich could be a good rb, and it may be that the Colts hold out some hope as well. Right now he's a mediocre backup. He has the physical attributes, but it is the mental side of it that seems to be the problem. I even saw a NFL caliber burst when he used it, he just didn't use it and I think it is because he lost the mental/instinctual side of the game. What bothers me about the suspension is the possibility that it reveals a side to him the refuses to humble himself and work hard to earn a place on the roster. If he doesn't have that then he's not going to get any better.
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I don't believe he has the physical attributes. He's neither fast, elusive, explosive or overly powerful.
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rccolts
Feb 3 2015, 02:18 PM
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Feb 3 2015, 01:26 PM
...The failure to acknowledge the OLine woes by the GM and the coaches is inexcusable. But, for dumbazz fans to prefer to focus on a RBs failure to be the answer is much more understandable. But, damn, when are you gonna get it...
Advanced, it is you that just does not get it.

I challenge you to find a post where anyone has argued with you that the OL is just fine. Let me save you the trouble - you won't find one. No one believes, as you want to continually argue, that the OL is OK. But just because the OL is not good does not mean that TRich is also not good. Yet anytime anyone wants to complain about him you go into your little hissy-fit about the OL.

And what makes you say the GM & coaches fail to acknowledge the OL woes? Hasn't Grigson brought in FA's &/or drafted OL in every off season that he has been here?
I am not saying you guys think the OLine is wonderful..I'm saying that the HC coach this year has been quoted referring to Richardson as having to do better without even hinting anything about the OLine. OK, lets make it official...TR is my brother, different mothers. I just love my Bro BUT from this point on ( X ) that point right there with the x on it...after that point I officially don't give a shit about my blood brother. Screw him! Now, our OLine needs attention and when the coach mentions a RB and talks about him not playing up to par when the blocking sucked all year...well that bugs me a bit...WHY? Not because of that short, slow, squatty excuse for RB named Richardson, who couldn't catch passes with a laundry basket, but because it makes me think that they need to focus on finding better player up front. I hope TR gets cut and ends up flipping burgers at the Sandy D in Wetumpka. But, what I'd Love to see is some sign from the Colts staff that they understand the real problem. I was annoyed when I read the comments about the OLine in the preseason. Then I read comments on here and on the other board like, "I say we need to draft a G or RT in the draft in maybe the 4th round....we need ILBs and RBs and DLinemen and a safety first". Not everybody says this but several have and when they do I almost alway object and then I get dinged for doing it. I'm not far from losing self-esteem points.
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Nothing to see here.
Edited by Scott, Feb 3 2015, 08:29 PM.
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Hey Scott, we should probably keep the political reference away from this board. If I were to respond to your post it could get pretty unfriendly in here...and besides, this is a Colts board.
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Well there's always this place...:

http://w11.zetaboards.com/coltsthunder/forum/3236386/
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Feb 3 2015, 08:03 PM
Hey Scott, we should probably keep the political reference away from this board. If I were to respond to your post it could get pretty unfriendly in here...and besides, this is a Colts board.
It twas a joke, Sorry you were offended.
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WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME
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advanced32
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OK, I'll try some almost politics and see if its worthy of staying around more than 10 minutes:

On Hannity Lt Col Ralph Peters, the proverbial Fox contributor, lashed out at an administration spokesman who said that the burning of the Jordanian pilot was an act of desperation. He was fired up and said, "THOSE PEOPLE WHO BURNED THAT MAN ALIVE,,,THEY'RE HAVING THE TIME OF THEIR LIVES......ITS NEVER GONNA GET ANY BETTER FOR THEM THAN THIS. THEY HAVE POWER NOW. THEY CAN EXERT THEIR WILL OVER OTHERS. THIS IS BETTER THAN THE BEST SEX THEY'VE EVER HAD AND ITS EASIER ON THE GOATS!" I was caught off guard and laughed so hard my girlfriend bumped her head on my laptop.

I think this qualifies as OK due to the fact that Lt Col Peters said on a previous show that he was a Colts fan.
Edited by advanced32, Feb 4 2015, 01:59 AM.
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