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Indianapolis Colts @ Buffalo Bills; 2015 - Week 1
Topic Started: Sep 7 2015, 12:43 PM (2,363 Views)
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Well so far the Colts are tied for first in the South! lol
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Sep 13 2015, 04:16 PM
In 50 some dropbacks Luck was sacked once and hit maybe 5 times. He was under pressure at times, but against a fearsome front 7 like that, the OL didn't play that poorly.
Did we watch the same game? I agree that Luck wasn't his best, but he had to continually move around the pocket as usual.
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The second interception was on 4th down with not much time left. His reads were covered so he threw it anyway, what else should he do? Throw it away and go get on the bus?
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Sep 13 2015, 04:16 PM
In 50 some dropbacks Luck was sacked once and hit maybe 5 times. He was under pressure at times, but against a fearsome front 7 like that, the OL didn't play that poorly.
Did we watch the same game? I agree that Luck wasn't his best, but he had to continually move around the pocket as usual.
The OL started off terribly. Overall as a body of work they played fine. If you drop back 50+ times against the Bills front, they are going to get pressure. Luck made a lot of poor throws when there was no pressure, a QB like him should take advantage of the times he has a clean pocket, Luck didn't.
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Sep 13 2015, 04:20 PM
The second interception was on 4th down with not much time left. His reads were covered so he threw it anyway, what else should he do? Throw it away and go get on the bus?
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Sep 13 2015, 04:16 PM
In 50 some dropbacks Luck was sacked once and hit maybe 5 times. He was under pressure at times, but against a fearsome front 7 like that, the OL didn't play that poorly.
Did we watch the same game? I agree that Luck wasn't his best, but he had to continually move around the pocket as usual.
The OL started off terribly. Overall as a body of work they played fine. If you drop back 50+ times against the Bills front, they are going to get pressure. Luck made a lot of poor throws when there was no pressure, a QB like him should take advantage of the times he has a clean pocket, Luck didn't.
The problem is that we continue to be unbalanced and one dimensional, so Luck becomes a sitting duck. I did think the protection improved in the 2nd half, but they were still pushed around too much and couldn't contain blocks.
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It seemed like he was out of sync with the ball sailing high so much. He has to work on getting the ball down.
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The disturbing truth is the fans are right for once and it's the GM who is wrong. He has completely failed to improve the offensive line and it makes a difference when you play a good defense.
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Playing a good defense who knocks the receivers off their routes and the lack of commitment to the run game when that's going to help protect the QB. This OL is still a work in progress and it definitely needs new guards.
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Sep 13 2015, 04:18 PM
Well so far the Colts are tied for first in the South! lol
Tacks up 14-0 so may well be tied for second.
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IronPony1965
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Mariota has looked so much better than Winston through preseason until now that its sick.
Mariota looking good as hell right now.
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So last year they run, run, run and get nothing but refuse to concede they have no running game. This game they run pretty well to start off but throw the ball over and over and over. I don't get it.
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I don't know if you know this or not, but our coaches aren't very smart.
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What I don't get, and I watched Pagano's pitiful post game interview, why the hell did they not: (a) run more often, and (b) throw more short slants with all the blitzing and pressure?? It's like they had a game plan that DID NOT WORK and they kept with it at all cost. No adjustments at all...how many times have we heard that?
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Sep 13 2015, 08:01 PM
What I don't get, and I watched Pagano's pitiful post game interview, why the hell did they not: (a) run more often, and (b) throw more short slants with all the blitzing and pressure?? It's like they had a game plan that DID NOT WORK and they kept with it at all cost. No adjustments at all...how many times have we heard that?
This is what they ALWAYS do..... not prepared, poor play calling, no adjustments..... if we keep doing it over and over we will get it right, right? >:(
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IronPony1965
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It reminds me of when Dungy used to say "we will do what we do" or something to that effect, which means they wont get away from what they want to do.

This is the NFL. If that shit dont work, you need to use your coaching ability to change it on the fly. Dont be too proud to admit your gameplan isnt working as intended.
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This made me feel 2% better about the game:

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2566222-buffalo-bills-fan-drinks-beer-from-wiffle-ball-bat-spins-gets-decked-by-bus?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national?is_shared=true
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Sep 13 2015, 11:00 PM
Oh my...that was just stupid. Bet he enjoyed the game.
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I've decompressed, so I want to offer my thoughts on the game.


-Henry Anderson was as advertised. 9 tackles. In the backfield all day. Running down run plays that went away from his side. Awesome.

-Parry I didn't notice much, good or bad. The Bills had a couple runs where they reached the second level without being touched, have to clean those up. Overall, against a team with McCoy and a scrambling QB that was sitting on a decent lead all day, I don't think the Colts were too bad against the run.

-Same goes for the OL. They weren't great by any means, but everybody knows the OL isn't great. I thought they played pretty well overall against a fearsome defense that had its ears pinned back all day. It is always tough to tell because Luck is incredible at avoiding the rush in the pocket, but I don't think the OL was the problem, or at least the main problem.

-Which brings me to the problem, the passing offense. Off day for Luck. When Luck isn't sublime, the Colts usually lose. Lot of pressure to put on one kid, but that is the way it is. Today Luck wasn't nearly good enough, and the Colts lost. He was disrupted early by a lot of pressure in his face, but as the OL settled down, Luck didn't. Missed high a lot. Missed a few open guys. I'm not worried or anything, he is great and will be great, he just wasn't on Sunday.

-Of course, he didn't get much help from the skill positions. Really puzzling use of Gore, he looked good to start, I would like to see Gore catch some more passes out of the backfield. He needs more touches. Nobody besides Hilton stood out at WR. If Hilton misses a couple games I really hope the Colts use Dorsett more and get him the ball in space. He can do more than just run go routes. It isn't like he has stone hands or anything (except on punt returns), and everyone was raving about his route running in camp. I question any gameplan that doesn't feature him at all, which today's didn't until Hilton was injured. Weird.

Lot of blame to go around to many players and coaches. Just one game though. The Colts will be back.
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The O-line was the problem in the sense that their penalties killed early drives, including one where we had built up a lot of momentum and probably would have scored. That could have completely changed the game.

Luck did have an off day. It's happened before. My bigger concern is that all of these weapons, as the media keeps referring to them, might not actually be all that great, especially in adverse weather against a good D (we'll likely see both in the post-season in the form of Denver or New England).

Gore and Johnson haven't looked all that great, but give them time. Moncrief has improved, but not enough to be a huge difference make. Dorsett is a rookie. TY is hurt. Our TEs are still just slightly above average. We need to see improvement across the board.
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I doubt Denver finishes with a better record than the Colts, the Patriots probably will though. Those damn Patriots...
And I agree, the early penalties were killers. If the Colts put up some points on those first couple drives where the offense was actually moving, it is an entirely different game. I just mean overall the OL did not play poorly, aside from Lance Louis, who is awful.

For those who like that kind of thing, PFF graded Mewhort(+2.6), Castonzo (+2.1) and Herremans (+1.8) as three of the top Colts performers. They were under siege by all-out blitzes all game, and while Luck didn't have a ton of time in the pocket, they kept him upright. If you are facing the type of blitzes Buffalo showed yesterday, with their talent, your QB is not going to have a lot of time in the pocket even with the best OLs in the league.
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I'm not a Luck basher at all but he was a bit lucky (no pun intended) that he only had two picks. Early in the game he locked in on T.Y like he was are only receiver on the field and forced balls into coverage. This has been the knock on him that he forces too many throws into coverage and this game it was warranted.
I did see the PFF grades on the OL and they were better than I thought they would be. I think some of the problems came from the TEs not blocking great and rbs not picking up the blitzes.

Interesting that the DL grades were not great, I thought they would be better. Grades for Adams, and the ILBers were poor as expected.
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The road to the Super Bowl just might be thru Buffalo for the AFC. Their two games with NE will be interesting.
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Sep 14 2015, 12:04 PM
"The O-line was the problem in the sense that their penalties killed early drives, including one where we had built up a lot of momentum and probably would have scored. That could have completely changed the game."

Yep.... that was a killer in many ways---big mo, confidence and thus a terrible loss.
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Sep 14 2015, 04:09 PM
The road to the Super Bowl just might be thru Buffalo for the AFC. Their two games with NE will be interesting.
Fierce defense, I'm going to go ahead and wait a little longer than week 1 before I put Tyrod Taylor in the AFCC game though.
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Just worry about our coaching
On defense I am hoping Moore and Irving make a difference
Feel Freeman sucks, Butler is not a good outside CB, only a nickel back
Will we run the ball, will we run screens? On blitzing teams , got to be RB to dump ball off
Or draw plays
But do not give a damn who best player is there when we pick next year
Either an Offense lineman or a defense player. If not trade down
We do not need all these weapons on offense, can only use one per play
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The road to the Super Bowl just might be thru Buffalo for the AFC. Their two games with NE will be interesting.
Fierce defense, I'm going to go ahead and wait a little longer than week 1 before I put Tyrod Taylor in the AFCC game though.
I don't disagree with you but I just think NE will not find the Bills as easy as Pitt. NE no longer have Wilfolk and it showed with Pitt. Injury can alter the whole thing but What do you think our chances would be this winter playing in Buffalo for the AFC?
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My bigger concern is that all of these weapons, as the media keeps referring to them, might not actually be all that great
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Sep 14 2015, 02:00 PM
If you are facing the type of blitzes Buffalo showed yesterday, with their talent, your QB is not going to have a lot of time in the pocket even with the best OLs in the league.
Agreed which is why I screamed every time Luck threw the ball downfield 20 yards or more.
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Sep 14 2015, 06:54 PM
We do not need all these weapons on offense, can only use one per play
Pretty flawed logic.
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