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Book of Shadows - Spoiler Discussion; Pour out your very soul in this thread as you experience the horrors of Heavenly Host once again.
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Topic Started: June 10, 2014, 3:25 pm (11,696 Views)
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KrystianM20
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July 27, 2014, 11:19 am
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- July 27, 2014, 11:10 am
...I feel terrible with some of the ideas, but... (And am thinking along hte lines of deaths mirroring their deaths in the game.) Let's see.. Maybe Mayu was killed while riding in a train or vehicle that abruptly derailed, sending her flying down the length of it and being splattered over it.
Morishige then throws himself either off the roof of Kisaragi Academy, a window of his home, or perhaps threw himself into a river.
Seiko, while heading down the staircase at school carrying stuff including something like a banner or a rope, lost her footing and fell, the banner/rope catching onto the handrail and somehow winding up choking her to death.
Ms. Yui's could be something like she was walking home or something and has a piano fall on her. Or is on a elevator somewhere, only for it to malfunction and crash into the ground.
Of course, until it's translated, we can't be absolutely clear on the ending, unfortunately. But, yikes... pretty scary to think about...
Spoiler: click to toggle Or everyone is submitted as "Missing",or the character dies in other way because how will you explain sayaka death or kizami?there are many deaths which will not be explained by daily accidents so the characters might be labeled as missing or just died in other way and something unrelated to this above
Spoiler: click to toggle Im interested in a way how aiko changed her fate while misuto took her place instead,so ayumi used the book and "Killed" misuto because of changing flow of time?And even if aiko died doesnt it mean that her fate is sealed,its really interesting fact for me because re-doing sachiko charm will lead to sealing the fate and doing spell from book of shadows can change the fate?(Maybe thats why there were so much notes about not being able to change fate and being able to change it in book of shadows?Its really strange
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Iarumas
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July 27, 2014, 11:28 am
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To your question Ayumi didn't kill Misuto, he got himself killed. He took the book from Ayumi and ran away, but he ran into Satsuki (who is dead, but reanimated as a head-chomping beast) and the new executioner. He tries to run away, but Satsuki eats his head and then Magari comes and take the book from Misuto's cold, dead body.
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KrystianM20
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July 27, 2014, 11:33 am
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- Iarumas
- July 27, 2014, 11:28 am
To your question Ayumi didn't kill Misuto, he got himself killed. He took the book from Ayumi and ran away, but he ran into Satsuki (who is dead, but reanimated as a head-chomping beast) and the new executioner. He tries to run away, but Satsuki eats his head and then Magari comes and take the book from Misuto's cold, dead body.
Spoiler: click to toggle Im meant that she "Killed"him because she time-traveled but he dies the same way as guess who?Aiko died because of that flower eating things,so ayumi didnt really time traveled,im think she moved from time where Aiko death must happen in cost of misuto life and in a time where Aiko live in place of misuto dying,im dont think it was coincidence that they both dying the same way,with their head getting eating/decapticated(idk if its good word)So ayumi changed the fate itself or she just changed the flow of time?(So they both cant live in the same timeline?)(Idk if its good question but its really interesting about both of their dying in the same way But in other timelines(?)or other worlds)And also if fate is sealed in heavenly host doesnt it mean that aiko will die in real world soon?
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GeoffBruedly
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July 27, 2014, 2:33 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle Although the ending is bittersweet, I can't help but feel as if Heavenly Host being sealed forever is the first true victory of the Kisaragi group. It just feels special that Ayumi managed to save the lives of countless others who would use the charm. However, did Blood Drive at all go into why Yoshie created Heavenly Host in the first place?
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bigboom
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July 27, 2014, 3:39 pm
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- Iarumas
- July 26, 2014, 10:33 pm
Response to bigboom I want to thank you for sharing your story. When people go and share those sorts of things, it means a lot. Honestly, with me, a few past experiences I've have very recently actually have caused me to... "clamp up", so to say. So, when someone in the community goes and shares like this, I have to admire and respect that.
Relating this to games, you can tell a game means something when the characters are able to be related to, even mirroring to you or others around you. See, art imitates life, be it beautiful and happy or horrible and sad. To others, it all seems so remedial, but to a few, it causes such a phenomena as in your case and, for once, we don't feel so alone... and even if it hurts, for once we understand why.
So, once again, thank you so very much for sharing out and, if you ever wanna chat, shoot me a PM.
Spoiler: click to toggle When you say that it hurts... It's weird I never thought about it the way that I just thought about it. I guess it hurts to see the horrible things that the Kiasargis all had to suffer through because I've actually had people in my life similar to some of the characters in the game. It's almost as if they are all real people and all this actually happened to them. That's why it saddens me a lot to see the deaths and how Ayumi and Yoshiki got the worst of everything. It makes it worse because as I said I feel like certain things that happened to me have shaped my personality so that I'm almost like Yoshiki. It's pretty amazing how media can get to you if you can solidly relate to the characters. In my life, I've had the "Ayumi" who probably saved me from more pain then even this person realizes, I have a "satoshi", my best friend. Oddly he has a pretty much identical personality to satoshi. For pretty much every member in the Corpse Party cast there's a corresponding person in my life that matches them. That's probably why the game hit me so hard. I have to say that because of these reasons it will remain my favourite game, even if I haven't actually played it. I'm planning on buying a Vita and BloodDrive when it gets localized though. It will probably always be something I think about and for that reason that;s how I know it's the best game I've witnessed. If it can make me pour my heart and soul into it, it has to be.
I'm hoping with all of my hoping ability that something happens in Dead Patient that will make evrything better for Ayumi and yoshiki. That's another thing that struck me with BloodDrive. In most other movies/games or whatever the Hero will always sacrifice something but it'll end up being ok and they will have saved the world. For example(funny story inbound) Batman has always been a character I loved. He's not like every other OP superhero and he uses his intelligence and combat skills to help him fight. At the end of The Dark Knight Rises when Batman saves Gotham by bringing the nuke away from the city, he is presumed dead. I remember in the theater I yelled "Awww hell no". then you find out that he's alive. anyway point of that story is that Batman sacrificed his home, and nearly his life to save the city and stop Bane, but he lived and saved the city. Whereas in BloodDrive we see Ayumi and yoshiki erased from memory and then Ayumi becomes a vegetable basically. It's very sad and is very different from most other heros.
I may be naive in thinking this but I actually see this is character building for Yoshiki. I think they're going to have a part to play yet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that in Dead Patient, a likely cause of all of the zombies and such is the Darkening. If this is so then I believe now as opposed to when I posted before about the Kisargi saga being over that the Kisargi story may not be over. If it is the Darkening then in theory, they would be the only people with the knowledge base to stop it. Anyway that's what my hopes for the future of Corpse Party are.
This got super long and I went on a tangent again but whatever. I'll probably come up with a solid theory for my above reasoning and post it eventually. Also Iarumas thank you for the reply, this was mainly a reply to you and then i got carried away. It's really nice that we can sort of relate with the "clamping up". To me now that Corpse Party has literally opened my eyes (sounds very corney) I have realized that bottling my emotions is not necessarily good. I'll definitely PM you and chat. Thanks for reading that long first post and I'm glad that sharing personal things in my life helps people.
On a side not I just realized that i've been writing this for an hour, trying to find the right words. Heh.
Pertaining to Geoff: I think that even escaping HHE the first time and showing the compassion to even worry so much about appeasing the spirits and trying to set things right was their first victory. Their second in my opinion was not giving up after the realization that their friends were not coming back and deciding to go back to HHE to restore their memory and destroy the school. It is pretty amazing what Ayumi did, but i myself, being a big fan of Ayumi, wonder if it was worth it in the end. I know it was the right thing to do, but for me personally it's very upsetting knowing that Ayumi is stuck in the condition that she is now in. It's very upsetting knowing that she has nobody except for Yoshiki now that they have been erased from memory. As I said before, I admire yoshiki so much because he obviously gave up his life for Ayumi. (I'm convinced that the man in the Dead Patient cameo with Ayumi is Yoshiki.) Well as I stated earlier, i'm hoping some type of miracle happens, curing Ayumi of her ailment. I mean in a universe where there are books that can do what the book of shadows did and magic that can create a place like HHE, there must be some way to cure Ayumi and maybe even reverse the erased from memory thing. One can only hope.
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Iarumas
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July 27, 2014, 4:10 pm
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To bigboom regarding Dead Patient Yea, the darkening is to blame, at least from what I know.
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bigboom
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July 27, 2014, 4:57 pm
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- Iarumas
- July 27, 2014, 4:10 pm
To bigboom regarding Dead Patient Yea, the darkening is to blame, at least from what I know.
Spoiler: click to toggle The fact that the darkening is involved makes me think that there is more in store for Naomi, Satoshi, Ayumi and Yoshiki. I could be a complete idiot though and maybe i'm just being optimistic but who knows.
Edited by bigboom, July 27, 2014, 4:58 pm.
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KrystianM20
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July 27, 2014, 5:53 pm
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It is true that dead patient getting re-worked(im mean first chapter)?And also Spoiler: click to toggle What if ayame ito is somehow reincarnation of kuon niwa?They are so similar that is pretty impossible that they cant be related,and isnt the hospital the game takes place isnt mentioned in one of naho's notes from first game?Maybe yoshiki will try to return ayumi to her normal state and if you look closely she look kind of better in dead patient(im mean eyes) than in blood drive where her eyes are almost under a mist,maybe she regaining conscicuous(sorry its probobaly bad word but i think you guys know what i meant :/)
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bigboom
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July 27, 2014, 6:01 pm
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- July 27, 2014, 5:53 pm
It is true that dead patient getting re-worked(im mean first chapter)?And also Spoiler: click to toggle What if ayame ito is somehow reincarnation of kuon niwa?They are so similar that is pretty impossible that they cant be related,and isnt the hospital the game takes place isnt mentioned in one of naho's notes from first game?Maybe yoshiki will try to return ayumi to her normal state and if you look closely she look kind of better in dead patient(im mean eyes) than in blood drive where her eyes are almost under a mist,maybe she regaining conscicuous(sorry its probobaly bad word but i think you guys know what i meant :/)
Spoiler: click to toggle Now that I look at it, Ayumi definitely looks a little better in dead Patient. She definitely looks tired as hell and very sad though. I'm almost positive that by the time Dead Patient would start, Yoshiki has probably already tried to bring Ayumi out of her vacant state. Maybe he'll eventually succeed. I sure hope he does.
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July 27, 2014, 6:05 pm
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- KrystianM20
- July 27, 2014, 5:53 pm
It is true that dead patient getting re-worked(im mean first chapter)?And also Spoiler: click to toggle What if ayame ito is somehow reincarnation of kuon niwa?They are so similar that is pretty impossible that they cant be related,and isnt the hospital the game takes place isnt mentioned in one of naho's notes from first game?Maybe yoshiki will try to return ayumi to her normal state and if you look closely she look kind of better in dead patient(im mean eyes) than in blood drive where her eyes are almost under a mist,maybe she regaining conscicuous(sorry its probobaly bad word but i think you guys know what i meant :/)
Spoiler: click to toggle Kuon and Ayame definitely has similarities, but we can only determine a relation between them once the future DP chapters are released. Yes, it is most probably that the hospital in Naho's note is Amare Patriarcha Crucis, the hospital in DP. Ayumi does look a bit better in DP, but the description isn't very so... She is described as a like a plant taking in sunlight. Also, for now, we could only think of the CG image of Ayumi in DP as inconsistent to the one from BD since she has her eye in DP. Unless she gets hers back or its replaced, I'm sticking to the idea of it being changed in the Rebirth of Chapter 1. A wild theory of mine is this: The Darkening is able to enhance physical capabilities, right? It also has other effects. I'm wondering that if Yoshiki does try and get Ayumi back to normalcy, is it possible for him to try and harness the Darkening for that purpose? I'm just wondering about the possibilities. 
Edited by Skybird, July 27, 2014, 6:07 pm.
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