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Book of Shadows - Spoiler Discussion; Pour out your very soul in this thread as you experience the horrors of Heavenly Host once again.
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Topic Started: June 10, 2014, 3:25 pm (11,693 Views)
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bigboom
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July 27, 2014, 8:33 pm
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- SkyBird027
- July 27, 2014, 8:29 pm
- bigboom
- July 27, 2014, 8:21 pm
- SkyBird027
- July 27, 2014, 8:15 pm
Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle we said that blood drive ends with ayumi's eye is no where and friends existence restored but she and kishinuma are transfered to a complete different world and such...
and yet...dead patient somehow shows ayumi way older than the CG in blood drive which that means 2 things.
the first that...since dead patient will get a new engine...probably makoto will fix her problem by putting an eye patch...what i mean that makoto probably forgot that ayumi's CG in dead patient had 2 eyes so he may fix it in the new version using the Unity.
and the second thing is...i heard something like. if someone donated his eye to the other for a surgery i forgot it's name. a eye replacement is able..the thing is..the one who donates his/her eye must Die first...which caused more brain trauma to ayumi knowing that someone died for her...
oh and i want to say that....poor ayumi...she is the MOST suffering one in the whole series i mean seriously. her friends died and erased from existence in blood covered. then in book of shadows...she lost her sister and ALSO lost a gallons of blood with a grave wounds. and to take more gas to fire...her and kishinuma's existence have been erased completely in blood drive and her eye is taken out.
Spoiler: click to toggle I'd like to agree with the fact that the CG is just an error but I also feel like it's not so simple. I believe there is a reason why the CG is the way it is. I may be naive, but my gut is telling me that this isn't a mistake.
As for poor Ayumi. The suffering she has expierienced and the horrible ending that she got makes me feel sick. She doesn't deserve all of what happened to her. I have a feeling though that Yoshiki is going to try to make it right. Once again maybe I have too much faith in how happy a horror series could be, but I know that I have seen eveidence of a universal rule that appears in the games: Good always wins over evil. With goodness comes happiness so i think Ayumi will be able to get some happiness in the future.
Continue from here. While it is true that the Heavenly Host saga and the story of the Kisaragis have ended, the story of Corpse Party in its entirety hasn't. Now that a clear connection between BloodDrive and Dead Patient has been made, its almost impossible for Ayumi and possibly others to be related to the the story of DP and its characters.
The thing is, Ayumi isn't the central character of DP now, as it is, Ayame is the new main/central heroine of the story. The sad possibility of losing the status of the central character is the ability to die. Now, it opens up the possibility of a tragedy or an end in vain for Ayumi, but perhaps Kedwin will be lenient to give her a better fate. Also, its sad that I think about it, but since this is a new story with new characters, I've thought of the possibility that the good and happy ending would be mostly for them, and not completely for Ayumi and others.
Its just that the event we know right now doesn't help me see a better end for Ayumi, but my fervent hope is that she does get a better fate in the future.
Spoiler: click to toggle I hope to god Ayumi gets a better future. She deserves to live a great life. Also I have to say that being a central character doesn't ensure their alive status. Game of Thrones Spoiler Look at Ned Stark in Game of thrones. he was the protaganist of season 1 and he died in season 1. I feel that Ayame isn't safe from death.
...About Ayame She already isn't exactly "safe" from death, since she does have that gaping hole in her chest and possibly has no heart.
Strangely though, is that she's still alive at that rate. About Ayumi Now that thing about GoT made me worry about her. She's the central character of the first story, and now she's lost the status of the central character, she really is susceptible to dying now.  Haha both of those things certainly have an impact on her life.
referring to GoT Game of Thrones has many secondaries that have lived on even when main characters have died. There's an even in season 3 referred to as the Red Wedding where many Central characters die and many secondary characters don't/
Edited by bigboom, July 27, 2014, 8:40 pm.
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Iarumas
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July 27, 2014, 8:34 pm
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If we are talking about long shots...
It could be... ... an illusion created by magic.
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July 27, 2014, 8:38 pm
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give me a reason to care once more. new mod for the grt. -in sachiko I trust-
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- Iarumas
- July 27, 2014, 8:34 pm
If we are talking about long shots... It could be... ... an illusion created by magic.
Spoiler: click to toggle You have a point there, but I think it would be, supernatural magic
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bigboom
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July 27, 2014, 8:45 pm
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Why i think ayumi is safe... for now
Spoiler: click to toggle In the series, characters often have the most cruel fate possible thrown at them. Like not being remembered etc. Ayumi is obviously suffering a lot in which case I think she will be alive as if she died, she would stop feeling pain. However, if Yoshiki is somehow able to return her to her walking, talking, breathing state, then i would worry about her.
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July 27, 2014, 8:57 pm
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- bigboom
- July 27, 2014, 8:45 pm
Why i think ayumi is safe... for now Spoiler: click to toggle In the series, characters often have the most cruel fate possible thrown at them. Like not being remembered etc. Ayumi is obviously suffering a lot in which case I think she will be alive as if she died, she would stop feeling pain. However, if Yoshiki is somehow able to return her to her walking, talking, breathing state, then i would worry about her.
Why is my thinking about things a bit too cruel? Haha. I've thought of a speculation that DP is happening with Yoshiki's involvment. Perhaps, the darkening disease is something he's been involved in investigating? If somehow, using the darkening once harnessed could be used to give Ayumi back her will and ability to actually live and not just be alive, could Yoshiki try and do that? Also, Dead Patient. The name kinda feels like it can link with Ayumi if there's some sense in what I said about Yoshiki. "Dead" in a sense that she's alive but not living. Just like a plant taking in sunlight. "Patient" in a sense that if Yoshiki is trying to help her, she's like a patient whereas Yoshiki is the "doctor". Though, Masami sort of throws those speculation off. 
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July 27, 2014, 9:06 pm
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I missed out on Chapters 3-5, and only caught some glimpses of the ending, and I was traumatized from what I saw lol. Here are some of my thoughts/questions off the top of my head since I'm watching everything I missed right now. OwO
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What is going on in Extra Chapter !? OwO
In Chapter 2, Sayaka calls Inumaru on his phone, and then she apparently is locked in a closet screaming. in the bad ending, a giant big lipped slug eats inumaru but in the true ending Sayaka's corpse was actually there? What happened exactly? XwX
Aiko and Inumaru also find a camera I think. Was it Taguchi finding Naho and kibiki who died?
Also, what happened to Azusa? Why did she get crazy and with Kizami? Did ran die or something? Did Azusa die? I think the last we saw she was just kicked by Megali and then no more screen time OwO
I think Satsuki didn't die right? She just looked like Megalis puppet but not a zombie or anything. I think Megali said she's okay somewhere too? I doubt they would carry her corpse the whole game either. XwX
Finally, where is Ayumi and Yoshiki in the end? i thought they ended up trapped in the HH dimension? But in Dead Patient, they have aged, and even have working internet? (I want their Internet Connection then OwO) But seriously, are they erased from everyone's memories but are alive in the normal world? Are they in some other world that is neither living nor dead? Or maybe just another universe entirely? How do they eat? How do they use the bathroom?! Are they ghosts?! OwO
Just a random thought but I wish there was more interaction with the first corpse party people who died. XwX
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July 27, 2014, 9:11 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle Wait, are Ayumi and Yoshiki in the same world at the rest of the cast? Like if Yoshiki saw Satoshi could they interact in any capacity? Or is it a parallel dimension type thing going on here? I am confused./spoiler]
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bigboom
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July 27, 2014, 9:12 pm
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- SkyBird027
- July 27, 2014, 8:57 pm
- bigboom
- July 27, 2014, 8:45 pm
Why i think ayumi is safe... for now Spoiler: click to toggle In the series, characters often have the most cruel fate possible thrown at them. Like not being remembered etc. Ayumi is obviously suffering a lot in which case I think she will be alive as if she died, she would stop feeling pain. However, if Yoshiki is somehow able to return her to her walking, talking, breathing state, then i would worry about her.
Why is my thinking about things a bit too cruel? Haha. I've thought of a speculation that DP is happening with Yoshiki's involvment. Perhaps, the darkening disease is something he's been involved in investigating? If somehow, using the darkening once harnessed could be used to give Ayumi back her will and ability to actually live and not just be alive, could Yoshiki try and do that? Also, Dead Patient. The name kinda feels like it can link with Ayumi if there's some sense in what I said about Yoshiki. "Dead" in a sense that she's alive but not living. Just like a plant taking in sunlight. "Patient" in a sense that if Yoshiki is trying to help her, she's like a patient whereas Yoshiki is the "doctor". Though, Masami sort of throws those speculation off. 
Spoiler: click to toggle I really like that Darkening idea. i believe that if he could harness the disease to restore Ayumi's will and ability to live, i think he would do it in a heartbeat.
Off topic but I wanted to see if this has bothered anybody else.
what really bugs me is the fact that none of the characters get into relationships when they should be in them. Ayumi and Yoshiki have chemistry and should have been together after BCRF in my opinion. Same goes for Satoshi and Naomi. It's almost annoying to see how these characters should be together and aren't.
Back on topic:
I think you may be on to something with that analysis of "Dead Patient". I really like it.
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July 27, 2014, 9:13 pm
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- July 27, 2014, 9:11 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle Wait, are Ayumi and Yoshiki in the same world at the rest of the cast? Like if Yoshiki saw Satoshi could they interact in any capacity? Or is it a parallel dimension type thing going on here? I am confused./spoiler]
Spoiler: click to toggle I think that they are all in the same world but Ayumi and yoshiki are forgotten. It's more cruel that way if they can see each other but aren't able to interact since they have no idea who they are. This type of cruelty is the signature of the series.
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July 27, 2014, 10:18 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle Seems like Ayumi sealed the curse which created HH within her body. The curse was originally inside of Sachiko. However, since Ayumi's spiritual power was not as plenty as Sachiko's, that caused her existence to be erased in exchange of existence of everyone who died in HH.
If you applied the utilitarian ethics, this is the best possible ending. Accordingly, sacrificing a person (or two because of Yoshiki) is better than sacrificing hundreds of people who fell victim to the HH curse. Someone had to carry the curse and Ayumi couldn't ask anyone else, hence she sealed the curse within herself. This was a heroic act on her part as she blamed herself for everything that happened to their dead friends and also because of her family lineage (and I know a lot of people saw Ayumi's actions to resurrect everyone as stupid and selfish). She is happy now that she can save everyone despite of what happened to her, though Yoshiki might be the one who suffers the most from the outcome of this incident. At least he's together with the person he loves now. Knowing Yoshiki, he will do whatever he can do to support Ayumi, and devoting himself to take care of her is obvious thing to do.
It will be really interesting if the old casts are somehow related or make cameo appearance in DP, even if they are not the focus characters anymore. I hope Ayumi does regain her consciousness at least. Perhaps we also get to see grown up Yuka and Satsuki if Kedouin is kind enough.
I want to listen to the soulful testimonies now, especially from Asami Imai, VA of Ayumi. Her reaction is the most entertaining one in BoS. I want to know what's her thought about this.
Edited by Luph, July 27, 2014, 10:18 pm.
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Ain't no party like Corpse Party
Satoshi x Yoshiki is canon
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