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Book of Shadows - Spoiler Discussion; Pour out your very soul in this thread as you experience the horrors of Heavenly Host once again.
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July 31, 2014, 9:46 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle what if Sachi is here just to watch Ayumi or care for her from spiritual attacks or anything that cause the school to get leaked!? what if Sachi is sent by the first shinozaki to protect ayumi...good point though
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July 31, 2014, 9:52 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle what if Sachi is here just to watch Ayumi or care for her from spiritual attacks or anything that cause the school to get leaked!? what if Sachi is sent by the first shinozaki to protect ayumi...good point though
Spoiler: click to toggle You made a good point too.. I just thought because it specifically mentions black.. I thought she's still the evil googly eye kid... It is possible though now that she's somewhat purified by kuon...
I actually never noticed that the nehan is a Shinozaki.. where did it specifically say it?
Now that I think of it... Ayumi is like 1/100th European xD
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July 31, 2014, 10:05 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle the Nehan that was mention is Sachi(Sachiko's twin) which probably magali,misuto,kuon are after for reason(magali for increasing her powers maybe. misuto for making the perfect BoS. and Kuon for purifying it) as far as i could take from what iarumas said previously
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July 31, 2014, 10:22 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle the Nehan that was mention is Sachi(Sachiko's twin) which probably magali,misuto,kuon are after for reason(magali for increasing her powers maybe. misuto for making the perfect BoS. and Kuon for purifying it) as far as i could take from what iarumas said previously
Spoiler: click to toggle ? The first shinozaki is the real nehan right? When i heard that...
I just thought that since Sachiko got/eaten/absorbed the parts of sachi... When nehan invaded Sachiko... It awakened Sachi as well...
A slightly off topic (since the topic today is nehan); The Sachiko disappearing scene was heart wrenching...
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I killed them. I'm not a good kid" in the most pure regret... T-T
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July 31, 2014, 10:32 pm
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Regarding Ayumi, more personal relation The way she is now, in her vegetative state breaks my heart. She deserves so much more so I have to agree that I hope she snaps out of it. I've been reading plenty of fanfiction lately because quite frankly even though as I posted before about not showing my emotions due to events in my life, the sappy love fanfictions that are abundent everywhere make me feel a bit better about this ending. There's a ridiculous amount of Ayumi x Yoshiki fans out there so I feel like if it was decided that Ayumi would snap out of it, I feel like fan input may be taken into consideration. Also it'd be ridiculous for her to still prefer Satoshi over Yoshiki when she's a smart enough girl to realize that she won't win over Naomi and she should be smart enough to realize how much Yoshiki has given up for her. She must know that he loves her and I think that she reciprocates the feeling. It'd be ridiculous for Grindhouse to still try to still have her lusting after Satoshi if they decided to bring her out in Dead Patient.
Now I think it is safe to say that Ayumi and Yoshiki at least will play a pretty big role in the story to Dead Patient, they just won't be the primary focus. I believe this because of the darkening in Dead Patient. If Ayumi had successfuly trapped all of the curse inside her, the darkening shouldn't exist right? I'm wondering if the fact that Yoshiki caused her to fail. Somebody said before that the curse is leaking out of her.
Here's a crazy theory of mine regarding the CG in Dead Patient of Ayumi and Yoshiki. I do not think this an error and you guys know about my thoughts on the CG. What if the theory about the curse escaping is true. She would start to look much better like she does in Dead Patient. The eye she lost may have been because of said curse. The reason for it being taken may have been because of the curse. So if the curse is escaping maybe her eye could have grown back signifying the fact that she is not strong enough to contain the curse. Now if this crazy theory is true, her story is not done. Therefore neither would Naomi and Satoshi's either. I think that what COULD happen is one more game at the end of the Dead Patient cycle. It could have everybody from both games collaborating to take down the darkening. Now you say "But Boom, you idiot, they said this would be the last game as about the Kisargi's in depth adventures.." This last game, would maybe have chapters where you play as characters from both games. It could be an epic conclusion to finalize all of the curses and stuff.
I realize that this theory is a bit ridiculous but here's a bit more rationalization for another game where the Kisargi's play a major role. Money. It corrupts. Doesn't matter the company. They have to realize how much money has been made off of the story of the Kisargi students. They hype for Blood Drive was nuts. If another game with the Kisargis could rake in more dough, i think they'd be all for it. As much as I hate to even think about this it's a sad but true fact. Look at all the companies out there that have started producing to make money. *Ahem Activision, EA. Hell Seiko is probably one of the most beloved characters in the series. If it would mean more money I'm sure they might even write her back in as a main Kisargi. The sad fact is, man's downfall is money. It corrupts us. This is my rationalization for a final game with the Kisargi cast as a major part of it. I wish I could say that I believed it will happen because it would fit the story but sadly it would happen out of lust for money.
Keep in mind, this is my opinion based on my expieriences. I've had some very painful things happen to me because of money, I may discuss them later, I just don't feel comfortable with talking about it right this moment. They are much more painful then what I shared in the story before and some of them really have shaped me into who i am today, both the good and bad aspects of myself. Quite frankly man disgusts me at times I'm sorry that I believe that Grindhouse would fall victim to the corruptor that is money but sadley they are only human. This is my personal take on everything. You can't disagree that BloodDrive was hyped up a ridiculous amount. I was more excited for it then I was for The Last of Us. I believe that Grindhouse could pounce on the fact that Naomi, Satoshi, Ayumi, yoshiki, Seiko etc is making them filthy rich. From what I've heard, please correct me if I'm wrong, Dead Patient did not do as well as Blood Covered and definitely not as well as BloodDrive.
This is just my take on the situation. A theory I'm going to put out there. I wouldn't rule out a game that the Kisargis will take part in somewhat majorly in the future. Tell me i'm an idiot, tell me I'm stupid, tell me how wrong I am. I want people to respond to this. I want to see what everybody's theories are. I want to see what everybody thinks. I've read every single comment in this thread and all of your theories and responses are always so interesting. I just want to take a moment to thank everybody for commenting, it's really amazing what we can all come up with in our desire for more of the games.
To wrap up disagree with my theory, agree with it whatever, voice your own opinions I'm interested in what everybody has to say.
Summary of my theory: Grindhouse might make another game involving the Kisargis because there is still room storywise for it and because it's a massive moneymaker.
Peace guys. Have a great night.
Edited by bigboom, July 31, 2014, 10:33 pm.
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August 1, 2014, 3:54 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle well the ending is kind of "happy" for the characters in game but yoshiki is happy being with ayumi, ayumi is (happy i guess) that she saved her friends, but she not being able to do simple tanks is what bothers me, if she could at least talk normal i would call this a win, But maybe in dead patient they will "cure" her and then maybe she could have a normal life, and i hope if this happens that she at least gives yoshiki a hug or something for being there for her and not saying she still likes satoshi, if she stills likes satoshi that would make her very ungrateful and would break yoshiki who would most likely remain friendly with her just to be close
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August 1, 2014, 4:11 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle well the ending is kind of "happy" for the characters in game but yoshiki is happy being with ayumi, ayumi is (happy i guess) that she saved her friends, but she not being able to do simple tanks is what bothers me, if she could at least talk normal i would call this a win, But maybe in dead patient they will "cure" her and then maybe she could have a normal life, and i hope if this happens that she at least gives yoshiki a hug or something for being there for her and not saying she still likes satoshi, if she stills likes satoshi that would make her very ungrateful and would break yoshiki who would most likely remain friendly with her just to be close
Spoiler: click to toggle I don't really think she would have a normal life now that she is the keeper of the BoS...not that I hate ayumi or anything but the BoS is a very powerful artifact.
Maybe a simple and quiet from time to time... but not always...
Plus we had dead patient.. They look like they're accepting requests now... it would be never normal...
Though, I wonder if that website is naho's or her's ... I mean Naho is now remembered therefore.. It would be wierd if yoshiki plagiarized the name or something. xD
Also.. If they accept request does that mean.. She could do minimal stuffs? Or Yoshiki is doing all the things... While Ayumi commands him
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August 1, 2014, 4:21 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle well the ending is kind of "happy" for the characters in game but yoshiki is happy being with ayumi, ayumi is (happy i guess) that she saved her friends, but she not being able to do simple tanks is what bothers me, if she could at least talk normal i would call this a win, But maybe in dead patient they will "cure" her and then maybe she could have a normal life, and i hope if this happens that she at least gives yoshiki a hug or something for being there for her and not saying she still likes satoshi, if she stills likes satoshi that would make her very ungrateful and would break yoshiki who would most likely remain friendly with her just to be close
Spoiler: click to toggle I don't really think she would have a normal life now that she is the keeper of the BoS...not that I hate ayumi or anything but the BoS is a very powerful artifact.
Maybe a simple and quiet from time to time... but not always...
Plus we had dead patient.. They look like they're accepting requests now... it would be never normal...
Though, I wonder if that website is naho's or her's ... I mean Naho is now remembered therefore.. It would be wierd if yoshiki plagiarized the name or something. xD
Also.. If they accept request does that mean.. She could do minimal stuffs? Or Yoshiki is doing all the things... While Ayumi commands him
Spoiler: click to toggle Well i did think that she could talk to yoshiki by telepaty or something like that, if its the case and she can comunicate with him somehow im for me its ok, i mean its not like they can have kids ot something, but at least they can share some things and talk about dreams and stuff or maybe yoshiki find a way to use the BoS or the book give ayumi so much power that she is slowy recovering, but i think that yoshiki would not go as far as breaking the curse to save ayumi, if he didnt that it would break her "final wish" and i think he loves an respects her too much to do that
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August 1, 2014, 4:37 am
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- DeathkaiserG
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- meca4
- August 1, 2014, 3:54 am
Spoiler: click to toggle well the ending is kind of "happy" for the characters in game but yoshiki is happy being with ayumi, ayumi is (happy i guess) that she saved her friends, but she not being able to do simple tanks is what bothers me, if she could at least talk normal i would call this a win, But maybe in dead patient they will "cure" her and then maybe she could have a normal life, and i hope if this happens that she at least gives yoshiki a hug or something for being there for her and not saying she still likes satoshi, if she stills likes satoshi that would make her very ungrateful and would break yoshiki who would most likely remain friendly with her just to be close
Spoiler: click to toggle I don't really think she would have a normal life now that she is the keeper of the BoS...not that I hate ayumi or anything but the BoS is a very powerful artifact.
Maybe a simple and quiet from time to time... but not always...
Plus we had dead patient.. They look like they're accepting requests now... it would be never normal...
Though, I wonder if that website is naho's or her's ... I mean Naho is now remembered therefore.. It would be wierd if yoshiki plagiarized the name or something. xD
Also.. If they accept request does that mean.. She could do minimal stuffs? Or Yoshiki is doing all the things... While Ayumi commands him
Spoiler: click to toggle Well i did think that she could talk to yoshiki by telepaty or something like that, if its the case and she can comunicate with him somehow im for me its ok, i mean its not like they can have kids ot something, but at least they can share some things and talk about dreams and stuff or maybe yoshiki find a way to use the BoS or the book give ayumi so much power that she is slowy recovering, but i think that yoshiki would not go as far as breaking the curse to save ayumi, if he didnt that it would break her "final wish" and i think he loves an respects her too much to do that
Spoiler: click to toggle Just so you know... She did talk at the end of Blood drive... But its quiet... And just comparable to a mumble..put your speaker to your ears and you'll hear
"Book of shadows...._______.. I save them all.. I protected them all.. I did my best... Being alone is enough"
Yes.. She can talk but is easily tired...
I left a blank space cause Im not sure if its tsukaeru (serve) or tsukareru (tired).... I hear its the former but I don't know how to put it... BoS serve me?
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August 1, 2014, 4:40 am
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Regarding Ayumi, more personal relation The way she is now, in her vegetative state breaks my heart. She deserves so much more so I have to agree that I hope she snaps out of it. I've been reading plenty of fanfiction lately because quite frankly even though as I posted before about not showing my emotions due to events in my life, the sappy love fanfictions that are abundent everywhere make me feel a bit better about this ending. There's a ridiculous amount of Ayumi x Yoshiki fans out there so I feel like if it was decided that Ayumi would snap out of it, I feel like fan input may be taken into consideration. Also it'd be ridiculous for her to still prefer Satoshi over Yoshiki when she's a smart enough girl to realize that she won't win over Naomi and she should be smart enough to realize how much Yoshiki has given up for her. She must know that he loves her and I think that she reciprocates the feeling. It'd be ridiculous for Grindhouse to still try to still have her lusting after Satoshi if they decided to bring her out in Dead Patient.
Now I think it is safe to say that Ayumi and Yoshiki at least will play a pretty big role in the story to Dead Patient, they just won't be the primary focus. I believe this because of the darkening in Dead Patient. If Ayumi had successfuly trapped all of the curse inside her, the darkening shouldn't exist right? I'm wondering if the fact that Yoshiki caused her to fail. Somebody said before that the curse is leaking out of her.
Here's a crazy theory of mine regarding the CG in Dead Patient of Ayumi and Yoshiki. I do not think this an error and you guys know about my thoughts on the CG. What if the theory about the curse escaping is true. She would start to look much better like she does in Dead Patient. The eye she lost may have been because of said curse. The reason for it being taken may have been because of the curse. So if the curse is escaping maybe her eye could have grown back signifying the fact that she is not strong enough to contain the curse. Now if this crazy theory is true, her story is not done. Therefore neither would Naomi and Satoshi's either. I think that what COULD happen is one more game at the end of the Dead Patient cycle. It could have everybody from both games collaborating to take down the darkening. Now you say "But Boom, you idiot, they said this would be the last game as about the Kisargi's in depth adventures.." This last game, would maybe have chapters where you play as characters from both games. It could be an epic conclusion to finalize all of the curses and stuff.
I realize that this theory is a bit ridiculous but here's a bit more rationalization for another game where the Kisargi's play a major role. Money. It corrupts. Doesn't matter the company. They have to realize how much money has been made off of the story of the Kisargi students. They hype for Blood Drive was nuts. If another game with the Kisargis could rake in more dough, i think they'd be all for it. As much as I hate to even think about this it's a sad but true fact. Look at all the companies out there that have started producing to make money. *Ahem Activision, EA. Hell Seiko is probably one of the most beloved characters in the series. If it would mean more money I'm sure they might even write her back in as a main Kisargi. The sad fact is, man's downfall is money. It corrupts us. This is my rationalization for a final game with the Kisargi cast as a major part of it. I wish I could say that I believed it will happen because it would fit the story but sadly it would happen out of lust for money.
Keep in mind, this is my opinion based on my expieriences. I've had some very painful things happen to me because of money, I may discuss them later, I just don't feel comfortable with talking about it right this moment. They are much more painful then what I shared in the story before and some of them really have shaped me into who i am today, both the good and bad aspects of myself. Quite frankly man disgusts me at times I'm sorry that I believe that Grindhouse would fall victim to the corruptor that is money but sadley they are only human. This is my personal take on everything. You can't disagree that BloodDrive was hyped up a ridiculous amount. I was more excited for it then I was for The Last of Us. I believe that Grindhouse could pounce on the fact that Naomi, Satoshi, Ayumi, yoshiki, Seiko etc is making them filthy rich. From what I've heard, please correct me if I'm wrong, Dead Patient did not do as well as Blood Covered and definitely not as well as BloodDrive.
This is just my take on the situation. A theory I'm going to put out there. I wouldn't rule out a game that the Kisargis will take part in somewhat majorly in the future. Tell me i'm an idiot, tell me I'm stupid, tell me how wrong I am. I want people to respond to this. I want to see what everybody's theories are. I want to see what everybody thinks. I've read every single comment in this thread and all of your theories and responses are always so interesting. I just want to take a moment to thank everybody for commenting, it's really amazing what we can all come up with in our desire for more of the games.
To wrap up disagree with my theory, agree with it whatever, voice your own opinions I'm interested in what everybody has to say.
Summary of my theory: Grindhouse might make another game involving the Kisargis because there is still room storywise for it and because it's a massive moneymaker.
Peace guys. Have a great night.
Spoiler: click to toggle Im hope that by Kisaragi's students they are gonna end story for Seiko,Mayu and Shig,because 5 years later satoshi,naomi probobaly will not be students so they will be able to add it by that logic,and i think that satsuki will surely appear here and because of her yuka will appear aswell, and about your theory im think it might be correct,but i dont think they receiving these emails for requests,maybe yoshiki got job related to it and just sharing it with ayumi for hoping that she will respond to him,and probobaly even if they will rework Dead patient they will dont remove that scene with ayumi/yoshiki because they want to sell it really badly that by their presence some fan(mainly fans of ayumi and yoshiki) will buy it to check what happens to them.And i think that ayumi already loving yoshiki but cant accept it(Remember how much he got hitted/pushed by her in blood coverred?In blood drive did it even happened?),maybe she is waiting for his move or is too scared that someone else will be with satoshi,or she just wanted to be with them together and thinking about confessing her love for certain person will result in destroying the group they had(or she was scared that certain person will refuse and they will dont even talk).So i hope it will be end and finally kisaragi's students will rest in peace(Mayu shig and seiko),but they will resume story with naomi satoshi ayumi and others because they arent students anymore and I hope for yoshiki to cure ayumi and their fricking first kiss:/
Another spoiler for ayumi:
Spoiler: click to toggle What if ayumi by sealing heavenly host she sealed it inside of her and because of 1 person cant leave heavenly host shes trapped inside herself,and waiting for someone to come and rescue her?So maybe someone has to do sachiko everafter or just use book of shadows she has and come into her mind to find her and bring her outside of heavenly host mind(kinda twisted but i hope everyone will understand)
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