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Book of Shadows - Spoiler Discussion; Pour out your very soul in this thread as you experience the horrors of Heavenly Host once again.
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Topic Started: June 10, 2014, 3:25 pm (11,675 Views)
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August 16, 2014, 3:31 am
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- DeathkaiserG
- August 16, 2014, 3:29 am
Magari's name.. Ah *facepalm* its in here... I just never notice the mana one.. Thanks about that Ah yes... That's what I'm talking about.. Forgot their names  But in real life, I never heard of having a name/word with a "du" in pronunciation? Or i just haven't heard one at all... Sorry for noobness Magari and Azusa Ah I see...
Then if asuza is more higher ranking... Then I guess they promoted Magali to that title because they know azusa's *pretty much* dead or maybe just missing.. Wonder if there are any more successors to Maltuva aside from those two
Thanks for the information about Azusa... Now, I'm curious as well...XD)
About CEMETERY0 Shinozaki Does anyone know why Magali killed her? This talk about successors to Maltuva got me thinking that she could have killed the Shinozaki because she was a possible successor to the cult? I don't know. I just got that thought.
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August 16, 2014, 3:52 am
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- SkyBird027
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- DeathkaiserG
- August 16, 2014, 3:29 am
Magari's name.. Ah *facepalm* its in here... I just never notice the mana one.. Thanks about that Ah yes... That's what I'm talking about.. Forgot their names  But in real life, I never heard of having a name/word with a "du" in pronunciation? Or i just haven't heard one at all... Sorry for noobness Magari and Azusa Ah I see...
Then if asuza is more higher ranking... Then I guess they promoted Magali to that title because they know azusa's *pretty much* dead or maybe just missing.. Wonder if there are any more successors to Maltuva aside from those two
Thanks for the information about Azusa... Now, I'm curious as well...XD)
About CEMETERY0 Shinozaki Does anyone know why Magali killed her? This talk about successors to Maltuva got me thinking that she could have killed the Shinozaki because she was a possible successor to the cult? I don't know. I just got that thought.
Spoiler: click to toggle Never heard of a Shinozaki in my cemetery0 yet... Haha
Hmmm... Not really sure how Martuva works but if that is the case, why she didn't kill Azusa herself? I mean she's the second one (or first). Too powerful? Or The Next in line is a shinozaki? But the question is who? Well the last written name in the Family tree is Ayumi's father, Ayato. the others has no children (aside from Yoshie and Ayato) ? A possible hidden-illegitimate child.. That had a son or daughter that will appear in future games (such as DP?)
Again I'm just speculating in the present information around me so sorry if wrong?
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August 16, 2014, 4:01 am
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- August 16, 2014, 3:52 am
- SkyBird027
- August 16, 2014, 3:31 am
- DeathkaiserG
- August 16, 2014, 3:29 am
Magari's name.. Ah *facepalm* its in here... I just never notice the mana one.. Thanks about that Ah yes... That's what I'm talking about.. Forgot their names  But in real life, I never heard of having a name/word with a "du" in pronunciation? Or i just haven't heard one at all... Sorry for noobness Magari and Azusa Ah I see...
Then if asuza is more higher ranking... Then I guess they promoted Magali to that title because they know azusa's *pretty much* dead or maybe just missing.. Wonder if there are any more successors to Maltuva aside from those two
Thanks for the information about Azusa... Now, I'm curious as well...XD)
About CEMETERY0 Shinozaki Does anyone know why Magali killed her? This talk about successors to Maltuva got me thinking that she could have killed the Shinozaki because she was a possible successor to the cult? I don't know. I just got that thought.
Spoiler: click to toggle Never heard of a Shinozaki in my cemetery0 yet... Haha
Hmmm... Not really sure how Martuva works but if that is the case, why she didn't kill Azusa herself? I mean she's the second one (or first). Too powerful? Or The Next in line is a shinozaki? But the question is who? Well the last written name in the Family tree is Ayato.. Ayumi's father and the others has no children (aside from Yoshie and Ayato) ? A possible hidden-illegitimate child.. That had a son or daughter that will appear in future games (such as DP?)
Again I'm just speculating in the present information around me so sorry if wrong?
Spoiler: click to toggle The Shinozaki appears near the end and at the ending of CEMETERY0, with Magali and well, things happen to her. A similarity she has to Magali is that both of them wield weapons; Magali with her scythe and the Shinozaki with her katana. Shinozaki from C0 should also have spiritual powers and is a bit of an adult in looks, with a ponytail as a hair style and work cloth-ish.
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Aethix
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August 16, 2014, 8:59 pm
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- SkyBird027
- August 16, 2014, 3:31 am
About CEMETERY0 Shinozaki Does anyone know why Magali killed her? This talk about successors to Maltuva got me thinking that she could have killed the Shinozaki because she was a possible successor to the cult? I don't know. I just got that thought.
Spoiler: click to toggle Actually, Magari killed Shinozaki because she was a spy for Yagoura and Magari didn't want risk letting her get away with any information on Maltuba's activities.
Edited by Aethix, August 16, 2014, 9:02 pm.
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August 17, 2014, 12:02 am
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- Aethix
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- SkyBird027
- August 16, 2014, 3:31 am
About CEMETERY0 Shinozaki Does anyone know why Magali killed her? This talk about successors to Maltuva got me thinking that she could have killed the Shinozaki because she was a possible successor to the cult? I don't know. I just got that thought.
Spoiler: click to toggle Actually, Magari killed Shinozaki because she was a spy for Yagoura and Magari didn't want risk letting her get away with any information on Maltuba's activities.
Spoiler: click to toggle What is Yagoura again? And so... Is the entire incident that Naho deals with in here is because of Maltuva?
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August 18, 2014, 3:45 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle The Yagoura Organization is another institute that researches magic affairs, like Maltuva and the WI. However, they deal with white magic and seek the best for humanity, unlike Maltuva, that research black magic and even do human experimentation (*coughcough* Satsuki *coughcough*). Thus, they are mortal archenemies. I am almost certain Kuon Niwa is their director. I have no idea if the Fubpark (dont know how to do that rune, close enough  ) Killer incident in Cementeri0 is related to them or not. We would need help from Aethix-senpai or others for that.
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Luph
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August 19, 2014, 7:52 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle Seems like the chance of Tomb of Maltuva having a big role in DP is high? If that's true, I hope they bring back Magari and Satsuki again in DP. I wish they make a CP game based on Cemetery0 and goes deeper about the conflicts between Maltuva and Yagoura. Is Cemetery0 canon, by the way? I rewatched playthrough of the game, and wonder if the website in the beginning of Chapter 5 is Fuþark/suicide website in Cemetery0?
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Ain't no party like Corpse Party
Satoshi x Yoshiki is canon
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DeathkaiserG
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August 19, 2014, 9:12 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle The Yagoura Organization is another institute that researches magic affairs, like Maltuva and the WI. However, they deal with white magic and seek the best for humanity, unlike Maltuva, that research black magic and even do human experimentation (*coughcough* Satsuki *coughcough*). Thus, they are mortal archenemies. I am almost certain Kuon Niwa is their director. I have no idea if the Fubpark (dont know how to do that rune, close enough  ) Killer incident in Cementeri0 is related to them or not. We would need help from Aethix-senpai or others for that.
Spoiler: click to toggle Wait, Are you saying that Kuon is the director of Yagoura? I'm confused... Isn't she the director of The PL corporation? But from what I heard from Misuto... Yagoura is destroyed already? Wouldn't Misuto have more interactions with misuto if she is? Not that my japanese is perfect...  I want confirmation 
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Aethix
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August 19, 2014, 11:16 pm
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*My responses to all three of these will contain spoilers for Cemetery0 as well as Blood Drive*
- DeathkaiserG
- August 19, 2014, 9:12 pm
- Sloth97
- August 18, 2014, 3:45 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle The Yagoura Organization is another institute that researches magic affairs, like Maltuva and the WI. However, they deal with white magic and seek the best for humanity, unlike Maltuva, that research black magic and even do human experimentation (*coughcough* Satsuki *coughcough*). Thus, they are mortal archenemies. I am almost certain Kuon Niwa is their director. I have no idea if the Fubpark (dont know how to do that rune, close enough  ) Killer incident in Cementeri0 is related to them or not. We would need help from Aethix-senpai or others for that.
Spoiler: click to toggle Wait, Are you saying that Kuon is the director of Yagoura? I'm confused... Isn't she the director of The PL corporation? But from what I heard from Misuto... Yagoura is destroyed already? Wouldn't Misuto have more interactions with misuto if she is? Not that my japanese is perfect...  I want confirmation 
Spoiler: click to toggle Yagoura was founded by Misuto's grandfather to be a philanthropic organization of psychics grounded in Shintoism. However, they were the victims of a lot of persecution from people who were afraid of them and their practices, so the organization collapsed. As of the end of Cemetery0, Misuto is the last surviving member. Kuon Niwa is the president of Perfect Life Corporation.
And yes, Maltuba was behind the spread of the Futhark curse in Cemetery0, and they seemed to be doing some kind of research with it.
- Luph
- August 19, 2014, 7:52 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle Seems like the chance of Tomb of Maltuva having a big role in DP is high? If that's true, I hope they bring back Magari and Satsuki again in DP. I wish they make a CP game based on Cemetery0 and goes deeper about the conflicts between Maltuva and Yagoura. Is Cemetery0 canon, by the way? I rewatched playthrough of the game, and wonder if the website in the beginning of Chapter 5 is Fuþark/suicide website in Cemetery0?
Spoiler: click to toggle Several events from Cemetery0 are referenced in Blood Drive, such as Magari's transfer into Paulownia and some of the nastier things she did to Naho and Sayaka (plus the events of the very last chapter of the manga are directly reference in the glossary entry for Yagoura), so it definitely seems as though it's canon. In fact, all the talk about Maltuba and Yagoura near the end of Cemetery0 seems to be done for the express purpose of setting up the story for Blood Drive. However, the website in Chapter 5 is just (a lawyer friendly fictional counterpart to) Nico Nico Douga. Although it is worth noting that the fax from the Perfect Life that shows up in the Niwa household in chapter 2 says "powered by futhark," in a corner.
While we don't have any definite confirmation that Maltuba will have any role in Dead Patient, I strongly suspected they were involved in the story after I finished reading Cemetery0, and Blood Drive reinforced those suspicions.
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August 20, 2014, 11:20 pm
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*My responses to all three of these will contain spoilers for Cemetery0 as well as Blood Drive* - DeathkaiserG
- August 19, 2014, 9:12 pm
- Sloth97
- August 18, 2014, 3:45 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle The Yagoura Organization is another institute that researches magic affairs, like Maltuva and the WI. However, they deal with white magic and seek the best for humanity, unlike Maltuva, that research black magic and even do human experimentation (*coughcough* Satsuki *coughcough*). Thus, they are mortal archenemies. I am almost certain Kuon Niwa is their director. I have no idea if the Fubpark (dont know how to do that rune, close enough  ) Killer incident in Cementeri0 is related to them or not. We would need help from Aethix-senpai or others for that.
Spoiler: click to toggle Wait, Are you saying that Kuon is the director of Yagoura? I'm confused... Isn't she the director of The PL corporation? But from what I heard from Misuto... Yagoura is destroyed already? Wouldn't Misuto have more interactions with misuto if she is? Not that my japanese is perfect...  I want confirmation 
Spoiler: click to toggle Yagoura was founded by Misuto's grandfather to be a philanthropic organization of psychics grounded in Shintoism. However, they were the victims of a lot of persecution from people who were afraid of them and their practices, so the organization collapsed. As of the end of Cemetery0, Misuto is the last surviving member. Kuon Niwa is the president of Perfect Life Corporation.
And yes, Maltuba was behind the spread of the Futhark curse in Cemetery0, and they seemed to be doing some kind of research with it. - Luph
- August 19, 2014, 7:52 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle Seems like the chance of Tomb of Maltuva having a big role in DP is high? If that's true, I hope they bring back Magari and Satsuki again in DP. I wish they make a CP game based on Cemetery0 and goes deeper about the conflicts between Maltuva and Yagoura. Is Cemetery0 canon, by the way? I rewatched playthrough of the game, and wonder if the website in the beginning of Chapter 5 is Fuþark/suicide website in Cemetery0?
Spoiler: click to toggle Several events from Cemetery0 are referenced in Blood Drive, such as Magari's transfer into Paulownia and some of the nastier things she did to Naho and Sayaka (plus the events of the very last chapter of the manga are directly reference in the glossary entry for Yagoura), so it definitely seems as though it's canon. In fact, all the talk about Maltuba and Yagoura near the end of Cemetery0 seems to be done for the express purpose of setting up the story for Blood Drive. However, the website in Chapter 5 is just (a lawyer friendly fictional counterpart to) Nico Nico Douga. Although it is worth noting that the fax from the Perfect Life that shows up in the Niwa household in chapter 2 says "powered by futhark," in a corner.
While we don't have any definite confirmation that Maltuba will have any role in Dead Patient, I strongly suspected they were involved in the story after I finished reading Cemetery0, and Blood Drive reinforced those suspicions.
Spoiler: click to toggle Well, I guess this is what happens when I try to help without knowing japanese. Sorry for causing confusion. I didn't even know there was a PL Corporation.
Speaking of which, what is this PL Corporation?
And about the Yagoura Shinozaki, how old was she? Not asking for age, just the stage of life. Was she a young adult, or was she older?
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