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Venting Topic
Topic Started: August 18, 2012, 11:26 pm (16,982 Views)
Zaion
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You're caught by the Barnum effect. Most of those quizzes and phrases are built around them, so they are relatable to everyone.

Honestly, the best people to see if you have a mental problem are the people who interact with you on a day to day basis. Teachers or other people who interact with a lot of people on a day to day basis are usually good judges, but that's not always true.

In the end, if you are seriously worried about this, or find yourself reacting in ways that you cannot control or pushes people away, then you need to ask for or find help.

Mental disorders are, in the end, only disorders if they prevent you from living your life. In other words, it's only a disorder if there is evidence of damage or distress.

I don't know you massively well, so I can't offer any personal advice, but if you're worried then you're going to have to work for it. If you think you need to see a therapist, google one who lives near you, look at the reviews of other patients or clients, and choose one you think you will like.

Being pleased about having a mental disorder isn't that strange. I myself was disappointed when I found nothing wrong in a CT scan of my brain. The idea that there was nothing physically or even clinically wrong with me upset me a lot, and I couldn't help thinking, "Why the fuck do I feel like this then?".

In the end though, we've all gotta eat and gotta pay the bills. Having a mental disorder does make you an easier target for getting the short end of the stick, so be careful and watch out for yourself.

TLDR: Don't worry too much.
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If for any reason whatsoever you feel like you're having issues that need help from a professional. Seek out a professional.

If you're worried about it go and see a doctor about it and get a professional diagnosis. I wouldn't trust an online survey to diagnose me. Just like I wouldn't trust a pamphlet to teach me how to do all the plumbing in my house.
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haruhi suzumiya
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Angela
October 13, 2015, 10:39 am
Hey guys, it's me venting again. I need your help and support.
There's something that's been troubling me for a quite long amount of time.
I did a quiz just for fun about the topic if I would have a mental disorder. My results were a mix of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. I didn't take it too seriously, since it was a just-for-fun-quiz. But the fact always krept back in my mind, so I took serious quizzes about this by real doctors and psychologists. My results confused me and I decided to leave it alone. But it always came back into my mind, that thought with its thousands of questions, So I took quizzes again.
Today I took a quiz about the topic: "Do I need theraphy?" Maybe you know it. I would like to share my results with you:
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I know I shouldn't take this too seriously, not even take it as a diagnosis, which I am not, by the way, but it's still nagging at my mind. I keep questioning myself until I don't know what's real and what I truly think about it anymore. I even had the thought of searching a therapist, which I quickly dropped. I just don't know. Maybe I'm interpretating too much into this, which I probably do, but..... I can't get it off my mind. No, I did not tell anyone about this. Deep down I fear that they might think I've gone crazy, which I'm also beginning to think. I read about all the disorders mentioned above and I somehow identify with the symptoms, but I still have so mixed feelings about this, which is why I need help. I even realised that it somehow pleases me to think about having a mental disorder, which is seriously dumb and crazy. I just feel lost and any kind of advice would help me.

I just had to get this out of my chest and I thought that you would be the most likely I could tell about this. Thanks for reading this all through, friends :3
Hey angela.

well i dont have a mental disorder, (i do though have insomnia.) i would like to say i hope you stay well. Infact, try relaxing the body and mind. Yoga always helps me. And maybe you can convert to a religion. But i am getting into religion here by accident, whoops.

Make the mind tender. Soften your nerves. You may or may not need a therapist. Just see what you can do for yourself and if all things dont go good, then seek help.

(I would send you shigitou's regards but just to piss him off, i wont. XP XD )

Take good care and if you want to ask or talk, i could listen. I may not be helpful but i will listen. ^_^
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Zaion
October 13, 2015, 11:45 am
You're caught by the Barnum effect. Most of those quizzes and phrases are built around them, so they are relatable to everyone.
@Angela: ^ Exactly as Zaion said. And the tests you can rely on are those that have been standardized, i.e. they let a large population of different ages, races, and other relevant demographics take them so they know what scores are normal. Doing this needs a huge budget and lots of time, so it's very unlikely that those who run websites and give out tests for free actually tested it for reliability. The tests you can trust usually have an accompanying research article with them stating the accuracy and norms for the tests. This is also the reason why tests might cost a lot when you want to take standardized ones.

This is pretty much my field of work, so I'd like to explain in detail how assessment and diagnosis goes for mental health. First, we do not base it on just one test or one person's observation. Ideally, diagnosis takes a while, enough time to get to know the person's problem. (Though I heard of some practitioners diagnosing directly in just a day ;;)

Anyway, these are the things we collect when we have to assess a person and do a diagnosis:
1. Interviews - with the client, the parents, the teachers, and anyone who spends time a lot with the client
2. Test results - from different tests relevant to the client's reason for assessment; these are always standardized tests, e.g. MMPI, OLSAT, etc. Sometimes, we also have projective tests like the Rorchach (that ink blot test) and Thematic Apperception Test.
3. Personal Observation with the client during encounters with the mental health professional.

These are gathered and compared to each other. We take note of the behavior that is consistent within the data. Behaviors that manifest only at a certain place might also indicate a problem with the environment, which is affecting the person.

Should the disorder be linked to a biological cause such as a lesion in the brain, then we'd have to call in a neurologist to conduct brain scans and other tests. (But in the Diagnostic Manual 5th ed, you can't be diagnosed with a mental disorder if it has a biological cause. Though it is indicated that the condition is causing you to have symptoms of a mental disorder.)

Also, I'd like to emphasize the definition of 'abnormal behavior'. Practitioners have different opinions about this, but I'd like to agree with my professor's definition (which is what Zaion also mentioned earlier): To consider a behavior abnormal, it should either cause distress to the person or disrupt the person's functioning in everyday life. In the case of trauma, she used to say 'It's a normal reaction to an abnormal event'. A lot of my professors like to avoid labeling people according to their disorders. They only do so when insurance is involved. The important point is to focus on helping the client overcome the problem, which is the main reason why we diagnose in the first place.

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TLDR: Free internet tests are not always trustworthy. Go see a mental health professional if you're really worried. Note: The ones who are allowed to diagnose mental disorders are psychiatrists and clinical psychologists.
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Extra Notes:

(Hory shiz. I typed a lot more than usual.)

I can talk in detail about schizophrenia, bipolar, and dissociative identity, but I'd probably end up filling up so much space so I'll leave that to your discretion to ask me questions.

Really though, dissociative identity is very rare. People even argue about its existence, yet they placed it in the list of mental disorders. I'd be willing to fly to your country and have you as a case study for a dissertation if the tests are accurate. Haha
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Angela
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Oh wow O_O
I never thought I would cause such a big fuss about this xD
First of all, I would like to thank you all, especially you, Papina and Zaion. Your advice is really helpful and I'm very grateful.
But it's still bugging me. I really want to believe that I have no disorder and I can let that topic drop forever, but the thoughts just won't go out of my mind.
Which is why I want to ask you: Do you think I should contact anyone about my thinking? With that I mean teachers, friends, etc... but no family. I just don't want to bring that topic up with my family, not because I fear their reaction, but for other reasons I can't quite explain. My heart just tells me not to.
And Papina, since you are an expert on this, would you mind answering my questions and tell me more over a PM?

I feel just so different about this. I really doubt that I have a disorder, but something inside me wants me to be concerned and (probably) over-worried about this. Maybe I'm just interpretending to much into this. But why do I feel like something is wrong then?

*sighs* I just don't know.....
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High school is just an abyss that sucks away all of your life and reminds you that you can never be yourself if you want to get anywhere in life because you constantly have to suck up to everyone and bite back your social anxiety even though you've been struggling with it for as long as you can remember. 10/10 would recommend to friends. :)

P.S: Oh, and screw exams, too. Why.......
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Hory shiz. Today, I rode a taxi and realized that the driver was drunk. He was talking to himself incoherently, so I had him stop the car and I got out.

Fudge. Recipe for disaster yo.
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@haruhi suzumiya: Hello. I realize I'm a little late to this, but I just wanted to apologize to what befell you and your family. :( To be honest, like most, I'm at a bit of a loss given my shock upon reading this. I'm just really, really sorry. I'm even moreso sorry that I'm offline so often and couldn't Skype with you to try to offer any comfort -- if I could even give any -- but still, to just talk with you and try...

I'm truly sorry. If you ever want to get anything off of your chest, feel free to message me. I'm sadly unreliable at getting back to others' these days due to some personal misfortunes over the last few months, but even if you just need someone to listen, y'know. I'm really happy that at least there were some around able to offer you some comfort. ♥ Please take care of yourself, Haruhi. ♥

My troubles. It's a bit long, but I'm summarizing a few months, so it can't be helped. I just needed a vent, badly, eheh.


I was only able to address Haruhi's trouble as I knew I had very much to type, but I wish all of you the best. I hope next time I can focus a bit more on you guys and a lot less on myself! So, please, everyone, take care of yourselves, stay in good health and keep yourself safe. Also, stay warm if you happen to be in the colder part of the year! (We certainly are over here, brr!) When I'm able to visit next, I hope a lot of you that might not be right now are eventually smiling. :) I wish you all the best. ♥

PS: I feel a lot better *after* typing that then when I started, so I guess I needed to share. Y'know, I'm normally a private person, but it's always been easy for me to chat here, even there are a lot of new faces I don't recognize. You guys seem like nice people. Hopefully I can get to know some of you better in the future. ^_~
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Mayu Suzumoto
October 16, 2015, 10:55 pm
@haruhi suzumiya: Hello. I realize I'm a little late to this, but I just wanted to apologize to what befell you and your family. :( To be honest, like most, I'm at a bit of a loss given my shock upon reading this. I'm just really, really sorry. I'm even moreso sorry that I'm offline so often and couldn't Skype with you to try to offer any comfort -- if I could even give any -- but still, to just talk with you and try...

I'm truly sorry. If you ever want to get anything off of your chest, feel free to message me. I'm sadly unreliable at getting back to others' these days due to some personal misfortunes over the last few months, but even if you just need someone to listen, y'know. I'm really happy that at least there were some around able to offer you some comfort. ♥ Please take care of yourself, Haruhi. ♥

My troubles. It's a bit long, but I'm summarizing a few months, so it can't be helped. I just needed a vent, badly, eheh.


I was only able to address Haruhi's trouble as I knew I had very much to type, but I wish all of you the best. I hope next time I can focus a bit more on you guys and a lot less on myself! So, please, everyone, take care of yourselves, stay in good health and keep yourself safe. Also, stay warm if you happen to be in the colder part of the year! (We certainly are over here, brr!) When I'm able to visit next, I hope a lot of you that might not be right now are eventually smiling. :) I wish you all the best. ♥

PS: I feel a lot better *after* typing that then when I started, so I guess I needed to share. Y'know, I'm normally a private person, but it's always been easy for me to chat here, even there are a lot of new faces I don't recognize. You guys seem like nice people. Hopefully I can get to know some of you better in the future. ^_~
AW!!!!!!

I am so sorry for not seeing this very early, mayu. Please forgive me.

Thank you. But from what i saw in your personal behalf, i am sorry for you.

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I feel bad that i didnt have much else to say... Sorry. But i care about every word you typed and i am here if you Ever need someone. You can talk to me.

Also i feel bad now for pming you about shigitou. If i knew you were under some deep stuff i would have not pm'ed you about that. (Infact i would be talking to you.^^)

Thank you mayu and i hope we can chat sometime.
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