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Blood Drive Character Profiles; Character profiles from Blood Drive and other Corpse Party games
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Topic Started: March 13, 2015, 8:11 am (5,435 Views)
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Zaion
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March 18, 2015, 10:55 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle The two statues were important in getting Yoshie's diary which was on Satoshi's side of the school. Without the diary Satoshi and co. would never have been able to figure out how to correctly send Sachiko. Since figuring out the true Sachiko Ever After charm from Naho is a requirement for getting the statue, this allows the characters to figure out how to send Sachiko successfully.
The Sachiko Ever After charm is something Shinozaki, Yoshie had created in order to safely remove and/or seal the Nirvana that Sachiko had consumed.
What I assume occurred with the sending of Sachiko was that Satoshi and co. completed the half assembled ritual thus allowing Sachiko's soul to be free from the Nirvana and ascend. Since the spell was never completed by Yoshie the Nirvana itself was left behind.
The idea of the curses of the other children who died in the school preventing the reversal method from working was a theory written down by Naho. Whether it was correct is questionable.
Depending on how the Sachiko Ever After spell was meant to save Sachiko's soul, the groundhog ending may be an unintended side effect of the spell.
Then again, Sachiko seems to be pretty aware of the fact that the children of Kisaragi are reliving the events of Heavenly Host and has the ability to change their memories.
Perhaps, she is attracted to Satoshi, however, I don't think that's true. During 2U, there's an option for Satoshi to kiss Sachiko. The idea was you'd kiss her and she'd become nice. What actually happens is that she tears out a handful of Satoshi's liver off screen before he can kiss her. I don't think she's interested in Satoshi in a romantic or brotherly way. Since Satoshi doesn't even show up in Book of Shadows besides the beginning of "Seal" and "Encounter" and the only reference to him having his memories from a previous loop is during 2U, I don't think he actually gets to participate within Heavenly Host with his memories from previous loops.
If Sachiko is leaving Satoshi with his memories for just the beginning of the day they go to Heavenly Host, it may be because she predicts his peaceful nature won't be able to stop his friends from doing the Ever After charm. (If it was Yoshiki, Morishige, or even Mayu they might physically try to stop the ritual and aren't known scaredy cats unlike Satoshi, whose distaste for the charm could be attributed to his fear of the supernatural.) Thus, she can torment him by having him watch his friends doom themselves while never actually being able to use his knowledge to help them.
From Sachiko's dialogue it felt more like she hated Yuka for being Yuka rather than because of Satoshi. She calls her a "Hateful, woman" but the connotation was that she hated her because she was disgusting. It may be that she was revolted by Yuka's incestuous feelings towards Satoshi.
Edited by Zaion, March 18, 2015, 10:58 pm.
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March 18, 2015, 11:11 pm
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Spoiler: click to toggle True, i can see him being used as her toys but then..
So where is he during BoS then haha... beyond space and time? Haha
If anything i thought She hates Yuka because she has a bright young personality... Never thought she hates yuka because of incest.. Haha
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March 19, 2015, 2:40 am
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- DeathkaiserG
- March 18, 2015, 11:11 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle True, i can see him being used as her toys but then..
So where is he during BoS then haha... beyond space and time? Haha
If anything i thought She hates Yuka because she has a bright young personality... Never thought she hates yuka because of incest.. Haha
Spoiler: click to toggle If I gotta guess, maybe Satoshi was doing his own thing, maybe trying to find Yuka or Naomi and the others, but as the focus was on the others, he was set aside Though if the BoS scenarios like Seal, Demise, etc (the non-canon ones) are not in the same timelines, Satoshi could have been doing a bunch of things, none which I think could be confirmed. Also, while I'm remembering from a pretty past memory of Book of Shadows playthrough, maybe it's Yuka's clingy and dependent nature that seemed disgusting to Sachiko. If you want a more literal reason to disgust, perhaps its the fact that she peed herself and had to hide her soaked panties on a stall in her chapter in BoS. 
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March 19, 2015, 3:00 am
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- DeathkaiserG
- March 18, 2015, 11:11 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle True, i can see him being used as her toys but then..
So where is he during BoS then haha... beyond space and time? Haha
If anything i thought She hates Yuka because she has a bright young personality... Never thought she hates yuka because of incest.. Haha
Spoiler: click to toggle If I gotta guess, maybe Satoshi was doing his own thing, maybe trying to find Yuka or Naomi and the others, but as the focus was on the others, he was set aside Though if the BoS scenarios like Seal, Demise, etc (the non-canon ones) are not in the same timelines, Satoshi could have been doing a bunch of things, none which I think could be confirmed. Also, while I'm remembering from a pretty past memory of Book of Shadows playthrough, maybe it's Yuka's clingy and dependent nature that seemed disgusting to Sachiko. If you want a more literal reason to disgust, perhaps its the fact that she peed herself and had to hide her soaked panties on a stall in her chapter in BoS. 
Spoiler: click to toggle That's the 1st thing on my mind actually haha.... I was wondering bout Zaion's Post saying Satoshi didnt participate in heavenly host with his memories intact... Maybe he died in that loop... thus erasing his memory again haha Well, BCRF, when Yuka told Sachiko "She isn't Scary"... maybe that started it all haha... i mean her bright personality made her want to kill yuka If anything, Sachiko WOULD like to see her pee... just to humiliate her. Besides HH is a trash why would she care then bout wet underpants 
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March 19, 2015, 3:29 am
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- Skybird
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- DeathkaiserG
- March 18, 2015, 11:11 pm
Spoiler: click to toggle True, i can see him being used as her toys but then..
So where is he during BoS then haha... beyond space and time? Haha
If anything i thought She hates Yuka because she has a bright young personality... Never thought she hates yuka because of incest.. Haha
Spoiler: click to toggle If I gotta guess, maybe Satoshi was doing his own thing, maybe trying to find Yuka or Naomi and the others, but as the focus was on the others, he was set aside Though if the BoS scenarios like Seal, Demise, etc (the non-canon ones) are not in the same timelines, Satoshi could have been doing a bunch of things, none which I think could be confirmed. Also, while I'm remembering from a pretty past memory of Book of Shadows playthrough, maybe it's Yuka's clingy and dependent nature that seemed disgusting to Sachiko. If you want a more literal reason to disgust, perhaps its the fact that she peed herself and had to hide her soaked panties on a stall in her chapter in BoS. 
Spoiler: click to toggle That's the 1st thing on my mind actually haha.... I was wondering bout Zaion's Post saying Satoshi didnt participate in heavenly host with his memories intact... Maybe he died in that loop... thus erasing his memory again haha Well, BCRF, when Yuka told Sachiko "She isn't Scary"... maybe that started it all haha... i mean her bright personality made her want to kill yuka If anything, Sachiko WOULD like to see her pee... just to humiliate her. Besides HH is a trash why would she care then bout wet underpants 
Spoiler: click to toggle Well, it could be a combination of the incestuous disgust, peeing disgust, her kindness to Sachiko despite Sachiko being her, and her Yuka's being dependent. And the pee thing, for me, it's a different thing for a place to be dilapidated or trashed than a conscious human that is capable of decisions soil herself and walk around commando. Accidental or not, she does pee herself and she has dried pee on herself, somewhat a bit disgusting that could be part of the reason she's called disgusting, but not limited to that itself.
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March 19, 2015, 3:42 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle That's the 1st thing on my mind actually haha.... I was wondering bout Zaion's Post saying Satoshi didnt participate in heavenly host with his memories intact... Maybe he died in that loop... thus erasing his memory again haha Well, BCRF, when Yuka told Sachiko "She isn't Scary"... maybe that started it all haha... i mean her bright personality made her want to kill yuka If anything, Sachiko WOULD like to see her pee... just to humiliate her. Besides HH is a trash why would she care then bout wet underpants 
Spoiler: click to toggle Indeed! I personally think that Yuka's sympathetic and friendly attitude towards her (besides Yuka not being scared of her) was what made Sachiko hate Yuka rather than the pee thingy (as you said, that would actually please Sachiko cause it's kinda humiliating) or her feelings towards her brother Satoshi.
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March 19, 2015, 3:48 am
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle True, i can see him being used as her toys but then..
So where is he during BoS then haha... beyond space and time? Haha
If anything i thought She hates Yuka because she has a bright young personality... Never thought she hates yuka because of incest.. Haha
Spoiler: click to toggle If I gotta guess, maybe Satoshi was doing his own thing, maybe trying to find Yuka or Naomi and the others, but as the focus was on the others, he was set aside Though if the BoS scenarios like Seal, Demise, etc (the non-canon ones) are not in the same timelines, Satoshi could have been doing a bunch of things, none which I think could be confirmed. Also, while I'm remembering from a pretty past memory of Book of Shadows playthrough, maybe it's Yuka's clingy and dependent nature that seemed disgusting to Sachiko. If you want a more literal reason to disgust, perhaps its the fact that she peed herself and had to hide her soaked panties on a stall in her chapter in BoS. 
Spoiler: click to toggle That's the 1st thing on my mind actually haha.... I was wondering bout Zaion's Post saying Satoshi didnt participate in heavenly host with his memories intact... Maybe he died in that loop... thus erasing his memory again haha Well, BCRF, when Yuka told Sachiko "She isn't Scary"... maybe that started it all haha... i mean her bright personality made her want to kill yuka If anything, Sachiko WOULD like to see her pee... just to humiliate her. Besides HH is a trash why would she care then bout wet underpants 
Spoiler: click to toggle Well, it could be a combination of the incestuous disgust, peeing disgust, her kindness to Sachiko despite Sachiko being her, and her Yuka's being dependent. And the pee thing, for me, it's a different thing for a place to be dilapidated or trashed than a conscious human that is capable of decisions soil herself and walk around commando. Accidental or not, she does pee herself and she has dried pee on herself, somewhat a bit disgusting that could be part of the reason she's called disgusting, but not limited to that itself.
Spoiler: click to toggle Again, this is just me But the way Sachiko hates Yuka... like i really hate her guts for who she is.. Plain Hate rather than something trivial as peeing... She already killed a billion persons quarter of those should already have peed in their pants in fear already... why Yuka is the only one whom Sachiko repeatedly kill if there is already a million who pees in their pants already...there is this special hate for yuka...
Incest, maybe? But cant it really just be plain "Evil hates Good"? Her trust and dependence leads her to hate...
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March 19, 2015, 4:43 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle Since I interpret all the "WRONG ENDS" as alternative timelines and "fates" that Sachiko has not made "fact", I think we've seen quite a lot of alternative "timelines" in the Corpse Party-verse and not one of them had Satoshi remembering they had been through more than one version of the events at Heavenly Host.
Additionally, since the last "fate" where they manage to send Sachiko was completed without Satoshi's memories of the other Heavenly Hosts, I don't think he had his memories while actually in Heavenly Host itself.
But back on the topic of Yuka.
I re-watched the scenes of Sachiko killing her. She kills Yuka after asking for her life and Yuka says she can't give her that to which Sachiko replies with something along the lines of, "But you told me you'd do anything for me, right? So, gimme gimme." Additionally, Yuka's childish attitude and her dependency on Satoshi seemed to set off he pretty strongly. I think she views Yuka as a massive spoiled brat and that annoys her. Probably the same mind set as a orphan of a 3rd world country might envy the heir of an oil magnate.
Additionally, I misheard what she was saying since I was tired last night. I thought she said 忌しい but she said 卑しい which is a derogatory term suggesting they are low in standing. (i.e. lacking in manners or sophistication) Another way of interpreting it is as "vulgar". The English BoS translates it as "lowly" but that is a poetic way of interpreting it according to the dictionary (i.e. based on context).
So the reason for hating Yuka might be:
Because she's spoiled (which Sachiko never really was)
She's the opposite of Sachiko (both before and after she was alive (Sachiko was isolated and introverted while she was alive which Yuka never was))
Her perceived hypocrisy
The fact that she tried to be nice or pitied Sachiko at all
And/or the fact that she tried to be an "Onee-chan" to Sachiko (Who as the master of Heavenly Host is the most superior existence in the school. Yuka on the other hand is probably the weakest) (I guess this is retrospectively arrogant of her.)
Maybe her hatred stems from the idea, "How dare something as weak, pitiful, and useless as you pity me. You think you can help me even though you can't do anything by yourself? Know your place, you "Vulgar Woman"."
Edited by Zaion, March 19, 2015, 4:44 am.
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March 19, 2015, 5:11 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle For me, i always interpreted the timeline as story -> wrong end -> loop (-> eventual end.. at the last loop) rather than alternate timelines... its because They've experience the whole ordeal... they vaguely remember what they have experience, from wrong ends to just plainly remembering the place itself (2U Gym). They dont just inherit the memories from alternate timelines.. they experienced it themselves... (Well, if you look it that way... its like how you play corpse party.. you die you restart... but the characters inside the game vaguely remembers the pain) I guess the reason HH needs to Loop is to have a perpetual motion energy source  (lol... this is overthinking XD) About Yuka, Yeah, i think that is the reason why sachiko hates yuka...
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March 19, 2015, 5:54 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle Should have clarified. My mental picture of the way the events in Heavenly Host go something like this First Sachiko Ever After Charm -> Enter Heavenly Host-> Multiple disconnected fates (Imagine this part as a massive ball of lines just wrapped around and between each other)-> Appeasement of Sachiko-> True End In terms of an image it looks kinda like this.  The issue I have with the loop idea is that it requires there to be an order of the loops for memories to be built up by that method. Since Heavenly Host doesn't really pay attention to whether Loop1 occurred before Loop2, I never really liked that way of understanding it. BTW is that perpetual motion thing a reference to my fic?
Edited by Zaion, March 19, 2015, 5:57 am.
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