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Blood Drive theories (spoilers); Thoughts on the Nirvana, events of the game, and mysteries
Topic Started: August 16, 2015, 9:20 am (2,555 Views)
Zaion
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It follows the same idea as Karma in Buddhism. Karma is a mix of both intent and action. A person who causes a great action with little intent won't get as much Karma as someone who does something something large with a lot of intent.

In other words, Karma does not build up from coincidence or wishful thinking. i.e. doing something without intending to or simply wanting to do something without doing anything.

Magic and charms are described by Ayumi and Hinoe as things like prayers or emotions. The fire balls that Ayumi and the queen throw against each other are named after actions and emotions.

Long story short: Yes, willpower is required for casting magic, but it's not a physical quantity capable of being depleted.

You simply have to have the guts to go against the norm, and be willing to step into the world of magic. Exercise takes willpower, a lot of it in fact. Any action that's difficult, painful, and may not always be rewarding requires willpower

The amount and type of resistance merely differs.

With exercise, you have to overcome the physical limits of your body.

With creating a story you need to be willing to spend long hours reading, writing, and re-writing what you've got over and over.

With Magic, you need to be willing to go against the entire world and give up any concept of normalcy since it is the very definition of abnormal.
Edited by Zaion, August 16, 2015, 7:56 pm.
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Nice Magic Theory... the sense of abnormalcy of magic is very prominent

Could it also be the reason why some of the characters experience increase in strength when someone is in danger... most notably, Satoshi... in which, he berserked into the bomb shelter without getting harmed and how he tackled the model/kizami out of the screen then going full stop... his action and intention is at all time high and maybe produced little magic to give him a boost of energy to do things he cant normally do...

Or that's just adrenaline rush haha
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I go for adrenaline.

Magic is inherently abnormal.

Things like;

  • being able to tear apart a guardian of one of the Pillar's of the Nirvana
  • make a 100yen umbrella withstand a blow from a scythe
  • smashing people into walls without touching them
  • flying without mechanical assistance
  • tearing a person apart without touching them
  • showing them their most coveted dream for eternity
  • controlling how a person thinks
  • changing the structure of a building at will
  • rewinding time and removing facts
  • reject the laws of physics or conservation of energy
Satoshi tackling a truck off the road would be magical. An anatomical model, not so much.
Edited by Zaion, August 16, 2015, 8:55 pm.
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BloodCovered manga ending spoiler


Also, is it possible that spiritual energy in CP universe works somewhat like a disease? Yuka gained hers after she came in close contact with Sachiko (BoS chapter 6). Sayaka might acquire hers from Naho and/or Aiko, though spiritual energy does have something to do with mind capacity to cope with emotional stress, and her rough childhood might boost her potential (magic does require a strong body and mind, as well as perseverance to master after all).
Edited by Luph, August 17, 2015, 2:09 pm.
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I haven't finished the Blood Covered manga, so I can't comment about that. However, if the world of the BC manga and Blood Drive are similar, then Naomi has overlapping reasons to go to the rooftop.

This means that the scene in Blood Drive isn't inspired by BC, but merely has to take place there due to rules that were set previously.

Seiko and Naomi used to eat lunch on the roof, sitting on the ledge over the fences. If BC and BD both have this fact, there is a reason for Naomi to be there, even if she isn't trying to commit suicide.

That's my two scents from a writer's perspective. Some times it's not about inspiration, but following the rules you set up at the beginning of your project.

Spiritual Energy is not contagious, and Sayaka had her large reserves before meeting either Aiko or Naho. Naho states that she has no idea why Sayaka has so much energy. It is only energy, not the ability to use it. Additionally, Sayaka's levels of spiritual energy are much higher than Naho's or Aiko's. Thus, it wouldn't make sense for her to gain energy from them.

I used Inumaru's timing for a general idea when she got it. Inumaru suddenly goes off to the mountains to train using spiritual abilities and exorcising spirits somewhere in his highschool years. If Sayaka was born with this spiritual energy, it seems odd for him to develop an interest in dealing with her extremely large reserves of Spiritual Energy when he's been living next door to her for a while. His parents don't seem to be related to the spiritual world either.

You might be confusing how magic works to how the Book of Shadows chooses its master. The Book of Shadows enjoys blood, tears, and cruelty. Thus, when Ayumi slits open her stomach to get it, it accepts her as its master. This allows her to use the magic inside the book. The process requires her to "will/want/wish" for the outcome she wants and the Book of Shadows does the rest.

I'm not sure where you're getting that definition of magic from. It looks like the generic three requirements for you to use it found in most settings, but is it stated somewhere in the CP-verse?

Also, magic and spiritual abilities are mentioned as two different things in CP-verse, so the things that Magari and Mist do are technically not magic. (After all, they do have the word "spiritual" put in them.)

Yuka's acquisition of her large spiritual energy capacity is understood by Mist as her being in close proximity to Sachiko. However, it's probably because of the number of times Sachiko kept "playing" with her i.e. setting a fate, then undoing it entirely to kill her in a different way.

The Book of Shadows game hints that the routes we see are only one of multiple possible horrible endings for them. The auras of the other Kisaragi students are visibly altered due to them having gone over time over and over again. Since Yuka was played around with Sachiko so many times, I guess she's had a few more repeats than the others.

You have to remember that Mist, Magari, Aiko, and Kuon do not actually know what happened inside Heavenly Host, and are merely relying on what they can see in the real world to understand what's going on. It wouldn't make sense for the Kisaragi students to have been killed if they are alive, therefore they think that they've been alive the entire time in order to have come out alive. Therefore, what they say is merely their own understanding of the events they have been able to see or here. That's part of the reason they are proven wrong so many times during the events of the game.
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You have to remember that Mist, Magari, Aiko, and Kuon do not actually know what happened inside Heavenly Host, and are merely relying on what they can see in the real world to understand what's going on. It wouldn't make sense for the Kisaragi students to have been killed if they are alive, therefore they think that they've been alive the entire time in order to have come out alive. Therefore, what they say is merely their own understanding of the events they have been able to see or here. That's part of the reason they are proven wrong so many times during the events of the game.


If i remember Misuto once said that Kisaragi have been killed repeatedly in hh... or did i misunderstand something?
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When did he say that? I don't remember that bit at all...
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August 18, 2015, 1:21 am
When did he say that? I don't remember that bit at all...
I just remember someone posting it... can't find it even myself... im just confirming it if its true
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I'll have to re-watch the entirety of Blood Drive in order to see if that's true, but I don't remember him or any of them mentioning anything like that.
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I seem to recall Misuto saying something about the survivors being killed over and over again before they escaped, so it's possible that the alternate universe chapters of Book of Shadows are actually canon as well (and they would have to be for 2U to be canon, since 2U takes place in the same loop). At the end of Mire, Sachiko said that she wouldn't lock in Yuka's fate, so it might be possible that the events of Book of Shadows actually took place before they escaped.


Yeah... im not sure where exactly Misuto said it..
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