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Gooner0893

JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 06:11 PM
chillyheat
Jan 27 2014, 06:09 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:57 PM
chillyheat
Jan 27 2014, 05:55 PM
phatosas
Jan 27 2014, 05:50 PM
This question is for those that think it is crazy to offer Wenger a contract now because he hasnt won a trophy in 8 years. If you were in charge of running the club, what would you do? Fire him right now and bring a new manager to see out the season? How about wait for him to see out the season and make a decision based on the success or failure of the team. I hope you realize that if you dont offer him a contract now, chances are he could walk away at the end of the season. Now imagine winning the league and your manager walking out the door, now that would be tough to explain. I think people also dont realize that changing managers doesnt necessarily guarantee success. It is easy enough to change managers when you back it up with millions of dollars but if you are still spending within your means, throwing in a manager with your budget is really risky. Right now the Glazers have lost millions, would lose more if they dont qualify for Europe and they are going to spend almost 200mil just to get back to challenging and there is no certainty if that would take them back to the top. Anyway if you believe this is the wrong move, then let me know what you would do if you were in charge of running the club.
maybe u is best person to answer chilli question. y did b'ham beat us in cup final?
Uh, because they scored more goals?

I'm just playing with you. I know it was all Wenger's fault.
go 2 club frequented by other cock munchers-im sure u'll end up on ya knees & play all u like.
Hey 0893, talk to yer pal about your sensibilities regarding insults.

Clowns. Hypocrites. And clowns, again.
That's between the two of you. Don't include me in that.
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Jan 27 2014, 06:09 PM
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Jan 27 2014, 06:08 PM
Joe Bobs Fine Foods
Jan 27 2014, 06:03 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:59 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:51 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:48 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:45 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:42 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:38 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:37 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:35 PM
Oh, oh. The Monotonous Brigade is out chanting their mantra in unison again.

Why bother trying to reason with these posters? And again, Piers Morgan is a total cock muncher.
He is not even aware of your existence. why bother with this insult?
Another stupid response. You're on a roll.
No, you should be ashamed of resorting to insults. I haven't insulted you. Why can't you defend your point of view without saying these sort of things. This is unecessary.
Though you really insult yourself, I didn't insult you; I insulted your stupid response.

And from a fella who's had no problem slinging racist epithets and insinuating that I am a pedophile, I laugh at your outrage here.

Wait, now an insult is coming... clown!
I never insinuated that you were a pedophile or anything vile. You are really reaching here buddy. I make fun of your supposed football prowess but never any insults. I don't believe in them.
You lying fuck. I'm sure many remember how low it got between me and bog with the whole momma thing. He upped the ante to calling me a pedo, and you jumped right in courageously with insinuation after insinuation about my relationship with kids.

You have absolutely no moral authority around these parts.

Another clown double-down.
Provide proof of that... You are a liar. I condemned you for the things you wrote which were unbecoming of you. I never accused of pedophilia. You are a liar. I am pretty sure that no poster on this board will say that I did such a thing. You are a liar.
0893 also never authored posts about the impending doom of "A Year Without Champions League Football", never suggested that Arsenal would never buy a big player under Wenger, never said the team would never win a trophy under Wenger.

He's also against insults, which is why he never used the term "slow joe".


What a guy!
This individual is talking about private parts and pedophilia and the best you can do is regurgitate slow Joe. Really Joe, that's all you got?
Private parts? The "cock muncher" comment is straight from your bum-chum chilly while you are indeed the author of those pedo insults.

Clown.
u is filthy poster boasting bout massive pink helmet. luv it when u deny ur lies. cock muncher is one helluva poster.lol
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chillyheat

JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 06:11 PM
chillyheat
Jan 27 2014, 06:09 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:57 PM
chillyheat
Jan 27 2014, 05:55 PM
phatosas
Jan 27 2014, 05:50 PM
This question is for those that think it is crazy to offer Wenger a contract now because he hasnt won a trophy in 8 years. If you were in charge of running the club, what would you do? Fire him right now and bring a new manager to see out the season? How about wait for him to see out the season and make a decision based on the success or failure of the team. I hope you realize that if you dont offer him a contract now, chances are he could walk away at the end of the season. Now imagine winning the league and your manager walking out the door, now that would be tough to explain. I think people also dont realize that changing managers doesnt necessarily guarantee success. It is easy enough to change managers when you back it up with millions of dollars but if you are still spending within your means, throwing in a manager with your budget is really risky. Right now the Glazers have lost millions, would lose more if they dont qualify for Europe and they are going to spend almost 200mil just to get back to challenging and there is no certainty if that would take them back to the top. Anyway if you believe this is the wrong move, then let me know what you would do if you were in charge of running the club.
maybe u is best person to answer chilli question. y did b'ham beat us in cup final?
Uh, because they scored more goals?

I'm just playing with you. I know it was all Wenger's fault.
go 2 club frequented by other cock munchers-im sure u'll end up on ya knees & play all u like.
Hey 0893, talk to yer pal about your sensibilities regarding insults.

Clowns. Hypocrites. And clowns, again.
shameful shit from cock muncher poster.
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Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 06:10 PM
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Jan 27 2014, 06:07 PM
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Jan 27 2014, 06:04 PM
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Jan 27 2014, 06:00 PM
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Jan 27 2014, 05:59 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:51 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:48 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:45 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:42 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:38 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:37 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:35 PM
Oh, oh. The Monotonous Brigade is out chanting their mantra in unison again.

Why bother trying to reason with these posters? And again, Piers Morgan is a total cock muncher.
He is not even aware of your existence. why bother with this insult?
Another stupid response. You're on a roll.
No, you should be ashamed of resorting to insults. I haven't insulted you. Why can't you defend your point of view without saying these sort of things. This is unecessary.
Though you really insult yourself, I didn't insult you; I insulted your stupid response.

And from a fella who's had no problem slinging racist epithets and insinuating that I am a pedophile, I laugh at your outrage here.

Wait, now an insult is coming... clown!
I never insinuated that you were a pedophile or anything vile. You are really reaching here buddy. I make fun of your supposed football prowess but never any insults. I don't believe in them.
You lying fuck. I'm sure many remember how low it got between me and bog with the whole momma thing. He upped the ante to calling me a pedo, and you jumped right in courageously with insinuation after insinuation about my relationship with kids.

You have absolutely no moral authority around these parts.

Another clown double-down.
Provide proof of that... You are a liar. I condemned you for the things you wrote which were unbecoming of you. I never accused of pedophilia. You are a liar. I am pretty sure that no poster on this board will say that I did such a thing. You are a liar.
From the other forum, so no somking gun is available. But I have a very good memory, and I recall your pedo taunts like it was yesterday.

#cowardlylyingfuck0893
You are obviously totally lying. That is not something that I would do so I know for a fact that you are lying.
Scream your innocence until you're blue in the face. You did it multiple times. Anyone not familiar with the past forum but familiar with your moral flexibility here will have no problem believing that you are capable of dishing out some nasty insults.

They also understand that you are a lying, hypocritical clown. The harder you deny, the dumber you look.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... Have you noticed that none of your friends, not even Joe has backed up your pedophilia claims. You are disgusting.
I don't appeal to the gallery for help like yer buddy chilly, nor would I attempt to drag anyone else into this matter. You insinuated it repeatedly, and you're a lying fuck in denial.
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Out. Not cuz I'm out of ammo, but I would imagine that we are ruining another thread - if we haven't already.
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chillyheat

JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 06:16 PM
Out. Not cuz I'm out of ammo, but I would imagine that we are ruining another thread - if we haven't already.
only cock muncher ruins thread with targeting of posters as evidenced by dis very thread. i say we carry on with d ruins. tried to keep away from ur filth & stalking but u wont stop. i say we carry on...
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Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 06:10 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 06:07 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 06:04 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 06:00 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:59 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:51 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:48 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:45 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:42 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:38 PM
Gooner0893
Jan 27 2014, 05:37 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Jan 27 2014, 05:35 PM
Oh, oh. The Monotonous Brigade is out chanting their mantra in unison again.

Why bother trying to reason with these posters? And again, Piers Morgan is a total cock muncher.
He is not even aware of your existence. why bother with this insult?
Another stupid response. You're on a roll.
No, you should be ashamed of resorting to insults. I haven't insulted you. Why can't you defend your point of view without saying these sort of things. This is unecessary.
Though you really insult yourself, I didn't insult you; I insulted your stupid response.

And from a fella who's had no problem slinging racist epithets and insinuating that I am a pedophile, I laugh at your outrage here.

Wait, now an insult is coming... clown!
I never insinuated that you were a pedophile or anything vile. You are really reaching here buddy. I make fun of your supposed football prowess but never any insults. I don't believe in them.
You lying fuck. I'm sure many remember how low it got between me and bog with the whole momma thing. He upped the ante to calling me a pedo, and you jumped right in courageously with insinuation after insinuation about my relationship with kids.

You have absolutely no moral authority around these parts.

Another clown double-down.
Provide proof of that... You are a liar. I condemned you for the things you wrote which were unbecoming of you. I never accused of pedophilia. You are a liar. I am pretty sure that no poster on this board will say that I did such a thing. You are a liar.
From the other forum, so no somking gun is available. But I have a very good memory, and I recall your pedo taunts like it was yesterday.

#cowardlylyingfuck0893
You are obviously totally lying. That is not something that I would do so I know for a fact that you are lying.
Scream your innocence until you're blue in the face. You did it multiple times. Anyone not familiar with the past forum but familiar with your moral flexibility here will have no problem believing that you are capable of dishing out some nasty insults.

They also understand that you are a lying, hypocritical clown. The harder you deny, the dumber you look.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... Have you noticed that none of your friends, not even Joe has backed up your pedophilia claims. You are disgusting.
Actually, I thought I was pointing out that you have a --colorful--history of claiming to have not said things you have actually said.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Incidentally: when are you going to honor your bet?
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chillyheat
Jan 27 2014, 05:55 PM
phatosas
Jan 27 2014, 05:50 PM
This question is for those that think it is crazy to offer Wenger a contract now because he hasnt won a trophy in 8 years. If you were in charge of running the club, what would you do? Fire him right now and bring a new manager to see out the season? How about wait for him to see out the season and make a decision based on the success or failure of the team. I hope you realize that if you dont offer him a contract now, chances are he could walk away at the end of the season. Now imagine winning the league and your manager walking out the door, now that would be tough to explain. I think people also dont realize that changing managers doesnt necessarily guarantee success. It is easy enough to change managers when you back it up with millions of dollars but if you are still spending within your means, throwing in a manager with your budget is really risky. Right now the Glazers have lost millions, would lose more if they dont qualify for Europe and they are going to spend almost 200mil just to get back to challenging and there is no certainty if that would take them back to the top. Anyway if you believe this is the wrong move, then let me know what you would do if you were in charge of running the club.
maybe u is best person to answer chilli question. y did b'ham beat us in cup final?
I always thought it was because two players who have become world class bungled a play in front of the goal.

But now I see it was all Arsene Wenger's fault.
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Jan 27 2014, 03:14 PM
mlshock35
Jan 27 2014, 03:08 PM
dream_team
Jan 27 2014, 01:19 PM
mlshock35
Jan 27 2014, 12:46 PM
Given it's been demonstrated time and again just how delicate regime change can be in the EPL, I am baffled by how anyone could not view Wenger signing a new deal as nothing but positive.

Over the past few years, Wenger has sucessfully guided Arsenal to the expectations of the owners... the fact that those expectations do not match those of the fans is not really Mr Wengers problem.

It's no longer responsible to sit back and call for Wenger to go... without having an idea of who can step in and immediately make life better. And who should we replace him with??? AvB, Guus Hiddink, Rafa Benitez, David Moyes, Carol Ancelotti? All are names that have been thrown out before... all have come and gone.

No, I fear that in the future, when Le Boss exits, it will bring an amount of uncertainty to the club my heart could not bear. So for now, I welcome the new deal, all but being guaranteed of finishing in the top 4 and being in first place.
I think only two posters have mentioned AVB as wenger's potential replacement. The other 3 coaches that is Rafa,Ancelotti and Hiddink have proved they are more than capable of replacing Wenger.
As for Wenger getting a new deal, I don't think that is news, we all know that
1) If Wenger wants a new deal then he WILL get one
2)He would not leave for another club till he retires, because no other club will give him the kind of control he gets at Arsenal, Wenger basically runs the club, he won't get that privilege at Real madrid or PSG.
This tweet from Piers summed it up for moi "I understand Arsenal fans' devotion to Wenger. But no 'big club' manager in the world would get a new deal after 8yrs without a trophy."
I have to respectfully disagree. I think if any of those three are in charge in the previous 8 years there is more of a possibility we finish out of the top 4 then there is of ending our trophy drought. Those managers did well (at times) in programs where money was seemingly no option. This is clearly not the case at Arsenal.

I think some (not you, but Piers) do not give Wenger enough credit for what he has accomplished in the past few years without a "blank check" business model. As this team emerges from their debts and spends more, I believe the path Wenger put this club on will pay dividends for many years to come.
Some really interesting quotes in this piece: http://www.arsenalfc.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=562&Itemid=64

Particularly these:

As I was doing the research for my book, I was talking to Ken Friar, who had been Arsenal‘s managing director for a long time, and I pointed out that it looks as if the club would possess a lot of money but does not want to spend it. He replied: „Well, we do not tell everything to everybody.“ In other words, Arsenal was nearly bankrupt. Tony Adams told me, that the club would have been in existential trouble if the team would have missed out on the Champions League for a couple of times. It seems almost incredible that Wenger achieved to keep the team on this level eventhough about 10 years ago he had to stop spending money on big renowned players.“
Arsenal was nearly bankrupt, yet Wenger(and the board) still managed to be paying the likes of Squllaci,Denilson and Djourou about 55k-60k a week while luka modric was getting 35k at spurs, I stand to be corrected here but even Ryan giggs was only earning slightly higher than these dead woods during that period.
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Jan 27 2014, 04:38 PM
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Jan 27 2014, 04:05 PM
cruyff_turn
Jan 27 2014, 03:14 PM
mlshock35
Jan 27 2014, 03:08 PM
dream_team
Jan 27 2014, 01:19 PM
mlshock35
Jan 27 2014, 12:46 PM
Given it's been demonstrated time and again just how delicate regime change can be in the EPL, I am baffled by how anyone could not view Wenger signing a new deal as nothing but positive.

Over the past few years, Wenger has sucessfully guided Arsenal to the expectations of the owners... the fact that those expectations do not match those of the fans is not really Mr Wengers problem.

It's no longer responsible to sit back and call for Wenger to go... without having an idea of who can step in and immediately make life better. And who should we replace him with??? AvB, Guus Hiddink, Rafa Benitez, David Moyes, Carol Ancelotti? All are names that have been thrown out before... all have come and gone.

No, I fear that in the future, when Le Boss exits, it will bring an amount of uncertainty to the club my heart could not bear. So for now, I welcome the new deal, all but being guaranteed of finishing in the top 4 and being in first place.
I think only two posters have mentioned AVB as wenger's potential replacement. The other 3 coaches that is Rafa,Ancelotti and Hiddink have proved they are more than capable of replacing Wenger.
As for Wenger getting a new deal, I don't think that is news, we all know that
1) If Wenger wants a new deal then he WILL get one
2)He would not leave for another club till he retires, because no other club will give him the kind of control he gets at Arsenal, Wenger basically runs the club, he won't get that privilege at Real madrid or PSG.
This tweet from Piers summed it up for moi "I understand Arsenal fans' devotion to Wenger. But no 'big club' manager in the world would get a new deal after 8yrs without a trophy."
I have to respectfully disagree. I think if any of those three are in charge in the previous 8 years there is more of a possibility we finish out of the top 4 then there is of ending our trophy drought. Those managers did well (at times) in programs where money was seemingly no option. This is clearly not the case at Arsenal.

I think some (not you, but Piers) do not give Wenger enough credit for what he has accomplished in the past few years without a "blank check" business model. As this team emerges from their debts and spends more, I believe the path Wenger put this club on will pay dividends for many years to come.
Some really interesting quotes in this piece: http://www.arsenalfc.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=562&Itemid=64

Particularly these:

As I was doing the research for my book, I was talking to Ken Friar, who had been Arsenal‘s managing director for a long time, and I pointed out that it looks as if the club would possess a lot of money but does not want to spend it. He replied: „Well, we do not tell everything to everybody.“ In other words, Arsenal was nearly bankrupt. Tony Adams told me, that the club would have been in existential trouble if the team would have missed out on the Champions League for a couple of times. It seems almost incredible that Wenger achieved to keep the team on this level eventhough about 10 years ago he had to stop spending money on big renowned players.“
Wow! I often wonder how many of these big spending club run the risk of becoming... well..... RANGERS FC. If any of these quotes are accurate... then someday ownership is obligated to come clean and give Wenger his due!
Or Leeds!

Here's the quote that sticks with me:
Wenger did receive the assignment to only spend whatever was coming in (minus the enormous expenses for the credits). On the other hand, he should assure that Arsenal would play on an international level as often as possible in order to keep the income stable. Most managers would have packed their suitcases and left. Wenger stayed.

I like that, even if it does gloss over the fact that most managers paid as well as Wenger has been might also have found it in their hearts to stay. On the other hand, I wonder how many would have survived the pressure and been able to continue to deliver.
Wenger was paid extremely well for the job...I don't know about you, but I'll take a £7m salary any day any time, if all I face is 'pressure' to finish top 4.
Edited by dream_team, Jan 27 2014, 06:28 PM.
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