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Busy day at the Emirates
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Topic Started: Jan 27 2014, 10:22 AM (1,833 Views)
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rw_mlite2
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Jan 27 2014, 08:17 PM
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- chillyheat
- Jan 27 2014, 05:29 PM
defence of wenger is something else on here.lol
defence attack of wenger is something else on here.lol
Fixed it for you.
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rw_mlite2
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Jan 27 2014, 08:33 PM
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- dream_team
- Jan 27 2014, 06:27 PM
- dsch15
- Jan 27 2014, 04:38 PM
- mlshock35
- Jan 27 2014, 04:05 PM
- cruyff_turn
- Jan 27 2014, 03:14 PM
- mlshock35
- Jan 27 2014, 03:08 PM
- dream_team
- Jan 27 2014, 01:19 PM
- mlshock35
- Jan 27 2014, 12:46 PM
Given it's been demonstrated time and again just how delicate regime change can be in the EPL, I am baffled by how anyone could not view Wenger signing a new deal as nothing but positive.
Over the past few years, Wenger has sucessfully guided Arsenal to the expectations of the owners... the fact that those expectations do not match those of the fans is not really Mr Wengers problem.
It's no longer responsible to sit back and call for Wenger to go... without having an idea of who can step in and immediately make life better. And who should we replace him with??? AvB, Guus Hiddink, Rafa Benitez, David Moyes, Carol Ancelotti? All are names that have been thrown out before... all have come and gone.
No, I fear that in the future, when Le Boss exits, it will bring an amount of uncertainty to the club my heart could not bear. So for now, I welcome the new deal, all but being guaranteed of finishing in the top 4 and being in first place.
I think only two posters have mentioned AVB as wenger's potential replacement. The other 3 coaches that is Rafa,Ancelotti and Hiddink have proved they are more than capable of replacing Wenger.As for Wenger getting a new deal, I don't think that is news, we all know that 1) If Wenger wants a new deal then he WILL get one 2)He would not leave for another club till he retires, because no other club will give him the kind of control he gets at Arsenal, Wenger basically runs the club, he won't get that privilege at Real madrid or PSG. This tweet from Piers summed it up for moi " I understand Arsenal fans' devotion to Wenger. But no 'big club' manager in the world would get a new deal after 8yrs without a trophy."
I have to respectfully disagree. I think if any of those three are in charge in the previous 8 years there is more of a possibility we finish out of the top 4 then there is of ending our trophy drought. Those managers did well (at times) in programs where money was seemingly no option. This is clearly not the case at Arsenal. I think some (not you, but Piers) do not give Wenger enough credit for what he has accomplished in the past few years without a "blank check" business model. As this team emerges from their debts and spends more, I believe the path Wenger put this club on will pay dividends for many years to come.
Some really interesting quotes in this piece: http://www.arsenalfc.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=562&Itemid=64Particularly these: As I was doing the research for my book, I was talking to Ken Friar, who had been Arsenal‘s managing director for a long time, and I pointed out that it looks as if the club would possess a lot of money but does not want to spend it. He replied: „Well, we do not tell everything to everybody.“ In other words, Arsenal was nearly bankrupt. Tony Adams told me, that the club would have been in existential trouble if the team would have missed out on the Champions League for a couple of times. It seems almost incredible that Wenger achieved to keep the team on this level eventhough about 10 years ago he had to stop spending money on big renowned players.“
Wow! I often wonder how many of these big spending club run the risk of becoming... well..... RANGERS FC. If any of these quotes are accurate... then someday ownership is obligated to come clean and give Wenger his due!
Or Leeds! Here's the quote that sticks with me: Wenger did receive the assignment to only spend whatever was coming in (minus the enormous expenses for the credits). On the other hand, he should assure that Arsenal would play on an international level as often as possible in order to keep the income stable. Most managers would have packed their suitcases and left. Wenger stayed.I like that, even if it does gloss over the fact that most managers paid as well as Wenger has been might also have found it in their hearts to stay. On the other hand, I wonder how many would have survived the pressure and been able to continue to deliver.
Wenger was paid extremely well for the job...I don't know about you, but I'll take a £7m salary any day any time, if all I face is 'pressure' to finish top 4. Well, you sure wouldn't get very far into the contract.
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rw_mlite2
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Jan 27 2014, 08:36 PM
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- dsch15
- Jan 27 2014, 06:43 PM
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- Jan 27 2014, 06:42 PM
- JustOneDennisBergkamp
- Jan 27 2014, 05:35 PM
Oh, oh. The Monotonous Brigade is out chanting their mantra in unison again.
Why bother trying to reason with these posters? And again, Piers Morgan is a total cock muncher.
He cares more about the club than you and other 'gooners' though
How, exactly, does one measure that? A combination of being well known and, more importantly, if the fanatic rants line up with those of oneself? Just a wild guess here...
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rw_mlite2
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Jan 27 2014, 08:53 PM
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Glad to see that the brotherhood is always ready with their storm clouds to rain on anything positive. Such great *fans* they are. Maybe the rest of us can learn how to be better Arsenal *fans* from them and their heroes like the legendary Piers Morgan.
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rw_mlite2
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Jan 27 2014, 08:56 PM
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Anyway, good to see the kit deal finally announced (even if it was a very poorly kept secret). Added into the Emirates renewals, the finances are looking a whole lot better. Not *oligarch, buy a 70 million player every summer, I don't care if he fails since we'll just go buy another one* better, but definitely much better than where we were. Things are looking so much better than a year ago.
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Jan 27 2014, 09:22 PM
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- rw_mlite2
- Jan 27 2014, 08:53 PM
Glad to see that the brotherhood is always ready with their storm clouds to rain on anything positive. Such great *fans* they are. Maybe the rest of us can learn how to be better Arsenal *fans* from them and their heroes like the legendary Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan is a legend!
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chillyheat
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Jan 27 2014, 10:13 PM
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- Jan 27 2014, 08:17 PM
- chillyheat
- Jan 27 2014, 05:29 PM
defence of wenger is something else on here.lol
defence attack of wenger is something else on here.lol Fixed it for you. calling facts attack is joke on its head. rw hates being reminded of wengers woes.
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chillyheat
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Jan 27 2014, 10:14 PM
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- rw_mlite2
- Jan 27 2014, 08:53 PM
Glad to see that the brotherhood is always ready with their storm clouds to rain on anything positive. Such great *fans* they are. Maybe the rest of us can learn how to be better Arsenal *fans* from them and their heroes like the legendary Piers Morgan. chilly aint even mention piers on dis thread. but please carry on.
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chillyheat
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Jan 27 2014, 10:17 PM
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Now take this back and forth away from a perfectly good thread. If any of you three wish to have at me, send me a personal message.[/quote]no personal message from chilly 2 u. lets have it out in d open where it started.[/quote]Well, I'll honor the request of my fellow poster (I'm sure one that others would make as well) to cease the "shitstorm" on this thread. Be clear that is my motive, and certainly not any fer of matching wits or insults with you in public.
We've done the public thing to death. If you really had any guts, you'd meet with me privately through the personal message feature provided here.
lol. now d cock muncher talking bout guts huh? lol. as i said, chilli just getting warmed up. please dont disappoint.
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Jan 27 2014, 11:32 PM
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Wow. So we move away from Nike to Puma. We have Nike shops here but i never see Puma stores! The deal is worth more than £30m a year. This will definitely boost our purchasing power.
By the way Puma's biggest name athlete is Jamaican runner Usain Bolt.
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