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| JustOneDennisBergkamp | Jan 28 2014, 05:59 PM Post #61 |
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Anyone familiar with either the American Legislative Exchange Council or the Koch brothers that can tell me that they are not pushing in every way for "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization" needs to open their eyes. These guys are buying the role backs of the rights of citizens while simultaneously insulating and distributing more wealth to corporations state by state. Go look them up, and tell me corporate fascism isn't already afoot in this country. |
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| JustOneDennisBergkamp | Jan 28 2014, 06:00 PM Post #62 |
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Cool, Steven Gerrard. |
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| jays712 | Jan 28 2014, 06:03 PM Post #63 |
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You've lost me with this Oscar Grant deal. That's called a fucking nut rogue cop not some militaristic fascism. You wanna see something closer to what you're talking about than go look up how the Philadelphia Police operared under Mayor Rizzo in the 1970's. |
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| JustOneDennisBergkamp | Jan 28 2014, 06:15 PM Post #64 |
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Oscar Grant's death was symptomatic of police overreaction to criminals, particularly those of color, throughout our country. How about Amadou Diallo instead? Police forces across America, particularly after 9/11, have adopted a gang mentality that is just as dangerous as the gang activity it is intended to discourage. From "stop and frisk" to the heavy handed actions of police at the last two RNC's, we are seeing examples of becoming more of a police state. And we allow it because those in power have convinced us to be so afraid of gangsters and terrorists, that we will look the other way when the innocent get caught up in the gears of the often brutal and viscous machinery. |
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| jays712 | Jan 28 2014, 07:18 PM Post #65 |
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You need to drop the "police state" and "heavy policing" terms because thay are way over the top. What you're using as examples are simply isolated incidents of overzealousness and perhaps the actions by officers who should've never been given a badge and gun to begin with. In a country where I, as a private citizen, can arm myself with an arsenal that could rival a small town police force, there's no slippery slope happening here. When I get some strange guy knocking at my door asking me questions about what I just posted throughout this thread, than I'll say you're right and we'e living in a "police state". |
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| jays712 | Jan 28 2014, 07:25 PM Post #66 |
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A quick suggestion JODB. Less Fox News and MSNBC and go to your local dispersary out there in Cali and get yourself some Connie Chung brand of pot, get high, and watch a couple hours of Wipeout. I guarantee a stress free good time. LOL |
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| JustOneDennisBergkamp | Jan 28 2014, 07:31 PM Post #67 |
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I watch Democracy Now and the Thom Hartman Show. Al Jazeera on occasion as well. I said, "From "stop and frisk" to the heavy handed actions of police at the last two RNC's, we are seeing examples of becoming more of a police state." I never said this was a police state. And I'm tired of accusations of over the top language from folks. In return, I'll simply say that you fail to grasp the gravity of various situations, and the implications of allowing any type of fascism to take hold in America. Edited by JustOneDennisBergkamp, Jan 28 2014, 07:32 PM.
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| Joe Bobs Fine Foods | Jan 28 2014, 07:46 PM Post #68 |
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While I understand that MSNBC is perceived as the liberal version of Fox, they are not the same. I am sorry, but Rachel Maddow >>>>>>>>>> Bill O'Reilly, not just because of her politics. |
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| jays712 | Jan 28 2014, 08:18 PM Post #69 |
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I don't feel we're even on the road to becoming a police state are anything resembling that. If you want to think my head is buried firmly in the sand than so be it. This is why I avoid political discussions on message boards that really don't have anything to do with politics. Gets people pissed off over outside things that don't concern the main focus of the group itself. COYFG! |
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| dsch15 | Jan 28 2014, 08:19 PM Post #70 |
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Well, we share fatigue, if not a point of view. I'm tired of being told I just don't understand what's really going on when my interpretation of events differs from that of a left- or right-wing proponent. Edited by dsch15, Jan 28 2014, 08:26 PM.
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