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In Other News...; Today's games
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Topic Started: Jan 29 2014, 03:45 PM (1,174 Views)
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santry_gooner
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Jan 30 2014, 12:35 AM
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Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous."
This was from John Brewin of ESPN "Tottenham's attempts to grimly hang on were derailed by the intervention of linesman Scott Ledger, who disallowed a Michael Dawson goal and rubber-stamped the decision that gave City the penalty which took the game away from Spurs. Danny Rose looked to have won the ball when tackling Edin Dzeko in the area, but contact from behind caused Ledger and referee Andre Marriner to award the spot-kick and then red card the Spurs full-back." I think it is ridiculous to say my comments are ridiculous. The Newcastle decision was one of the most bizarre decisions and I am yet to see anybody that thinks it wasn't a goal. The goal that was disallowed in the Liverpool game was scandalous. I was drunk watching the game and I could see how deep that run was and it clearly wasn't offside. When we played City, we had two goals chalked off for offside that when our players were clearly in line with the city defence. I wouldn't complain because we let in 6 but let's not pretend it didn't happen. The City main weakness is their defence and it would seem they are clearly getting the rub of the green when their defence falters. There is no logical explanation except to accept at the very least that there is a very high level of incompetence from referees which unfortunately up to this point has gone in the favor of City
In 3 of the 4 games that you are citing, City dominated those games. It's only in the pool game that Pool absolutely deserved at least a point at City. Arsenal gave a valiant effort at city but it really wasn't close in terms who was the better team on that day. City could easily have scored 10 goals against Arsenal. I watched their game against Tots today and they were far and away better than Tots, it wasn't really close. It was a miracle tots were still in the game at the half. The refs have mad mistakes no doubt, but to argue that the most talented team in the EPL who is playing the best football in the league is winning with luck is asinine.
If the only argument you can make is City were dominant then you dont have an argument at all. Decisions change games irrespective of the final result. City are a very good team as it is and if these decisions keep going their way then we might as well just hand them the title. I think the most bizarre part of this whole thing is the linesmen always seem to be involved in these decisions. So let's see. There's now no difference between teams who dominate and don't get a run of decisions allowing them to score and teams who do dominate and do get a run of decisions helping them. The difference that looks to be a 3rd party set of circumstances, if commented upon are: (A) Ridiculous (B) person x hating team y
They use logic where you come from, or is it all a magic world of pre-ordained results where the referee looks into the souls of the the two sets of players and sees righteous deservedness?
In other words... Pathetic.
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santry_gooner
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Jan 30 2014, 12:59 AM
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In other news... Did anyone notice how Spurs were drubbed by City? I mean the last time it happened a gang load of threads were started by someone. Now he's manifestly got nothing to say.
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phatosas
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Jan 30 2014, 01:05 AM
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- Jan 29 2014, 10:33 PM
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- Jan 29 2014, 09:13 PM
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- Jan 29 2014, 09:02 PM
Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous."
This was from John Brewin of ESPN "Tottenham's attempts to grimly hang on were derailed by the intervention of linesman Scott Ledger, who disallowed a Michael Dawson goal and rubber-stamped the decision that gave City the penalty which took the game away from Spurs. Danny Rose looked to have won the ball when tackling Edin Dzeko in the area, but contact from behind caused Ledger and referee Andre Marriner to award the spot-kick and then red card the Spurs full-back." I think it is ridiculous to say my comments are ridiculous. The Newcastle decision was one of the most bizarre decisions and I am yet to see anybody that thinks it wasn't a goal. The goal that was disallowed in the Liverpool game was scandalous. I was drunk watching the game and I could see how deep that run was and it clearly wasn't offside. When we played City, we had two goals chalked off for offside that when our players were clearly in line with the city defence. I wouldn't complain because we let in 6 but let's not pretend it didn't happen. The City main weakness is their defence and it would seem they are clearly getting the rub of the green when their defence falters. There is no logical explanation except to accept at the very least that there is a very high level of incompetence from referees which unfortunately up to this point has gone in the favor of City
In 3 of the 4 games that you are citing, City dominated those games. It's only in the pool game that Pool absolutely deserved at least a point at City. Arsenal gave a valiant effort at city but it really wasn't close in terms who was the better team on that day. City could easily have scored 10 goals against Arsenal. I watched their game against Tots today and they were far and away better than Tots, it wasn't really close. It was a miracle tots were still in the game at the half. The refs have mad mistakes no doubt, but to argue that the most talented team in the EPL who is playing the best football in the league is winning with luck is asinine.
If the only argument you can make is City were dominant then you dont have an argument at all. Decisions change games irrespective of the final result. City are a very good team as it is and if these decisions keep going their way then we might as well just hand them the title. I think the most bizarre part of this whole thing is the linesmen always seem to be involved in these decisions.
They have had calls go their way. I disagreed with you saying that the team with the most talent is lucky somehow to win games. City is better than Tots and regardless of the ref's decisions, they were probably going to beat Tots. Arsenal because of tiredness was not even close to be at City's level when they played. The Liverpool goal that was overturned is still a shocker. While I think that City is the best team, I believe that Liverpool and Arsenal will have a chance to overtake them, especially Liverpool because of Suarez. City has to play at United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton. They will drop points. Arsenal, Pool and Chelsea will have chances to win the league. However with their talent and depth, City should be the odds on favorites to win the league. If City keep getting these type of decisions, it might look like difficult run of games but a goal chalked out here and there, a contentious penalty and red card, contentious offside calls and they might not lose enough games this season. If Arsenal have had the rub of green that City have had this season, we would also be ahead on the table. Look at yesterday for example, Southampton first goal was questionable. My problem with City decisions is they are bordering on scandalous officiating.
The point you made about is what worries me about City. They seemed to have stockpiled forwards while Arsenal and Chelsea are lightweight in that position. When I look at the number of points that Liverpool have accumulated this season by simply having two fantastic forwards, you realize how much of a disadvantage Arsenal have at the moment. I think if we do sign Draxler, he would bring in a boost to the club but he doesnt necessarily solve the striking problem we have at the club.
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Gooner0893
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Jan 30 2014, 01:44 AM
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- Jan 29 2014, 09:02 PM
Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous."
This was from John Brewin of ESPN "Tottenham's attempts to grimly hang on were derailed by the intervention of linesman Scott Ledger, who disallowed a Michael Dawson goal and rubber-stamped the decision that gave City the penalty which took the game away from Spurs. Danny Rose looked to have won the ball when tackling Edin Dzeko in the area, but contact from behind caused Ledger and referee Andre Marriner to award the spot-kick and then red card the Spurs full-back." I think it is ridiculous to say my comments are ridiculous. The Newcastle decision was one of the most bizarre decisions and I am yet to see anybody that thinks it wasn't a goal. The goal that was disallowed in the Liverpool game was scandalous. I was drunk watching the game and I could see how deep that run was and it clearly wasn't offside. When we played City, we had two goals chalked off for offside that when our players were clearly in line with the city defence. I wouldn't complain because we let in 6 but let's not pretend it didn't happen. The City main weakness is their defence and it would seem they are clearly getting the rub of the green when their defence falters. There is no logical explanation except to accept at the very least that there is a very high level of incompetence from referees which unfortunately up to this point has gone in the favor of City
In 3 of the 4 games that you are citing, City dominated those games. It's only in the pool game that Pool absolutely deserved at least a point at City. Arsenal gave a valiant effort at city but it really wasn't close in terms who was the better team on that day. City could easily have scored 10 goals against Arsenal. I watched their game against Tots today and they were far and away better than Tots, it wasn't really close. It was a miracle tots were still in the game at the half. The refs have mad mistakes no doubt, but to argue that the most talented team in the EPL who is playing the best football in the league is winning with luck is asinine.
If the only argument you can make is City were dominant then you dont have an argument at all. Decisions change games irrespective of the final result. City are a very good team as it is and if these decisions keep going their way then we might as well just hand them the title. I think the most bizarre part of this whole thing is the linesmen always seem to be involved in these decisions.
They have had calls go their way. I disagreed with you saying that the team with the most talent is lucky somehow to win games. City is better than Tots and regardless of the ref's decisions, they were probably going to beat Tots. Arsenal because of tiredness was not even close to be at City's level when they played. The Liverpool goal that was overturned is still a shocker. While I think that City is the best team, I believe that Liverpool and Arsenal will have a chance to overtake them, especially Liverpool because of Suarez. City has to play at United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton. They will drop points. Arsenal, Pool and Chelsea will have chances to win the league. However with their talent and depth, City should be the odds on favorites to win the league.
If City keep getting these type of decisions, it might look like difficult run of games but a goal chalked out here and there, a contentious penalty and red card, contentious offside calls and they might not lose enough games this season. If Arsenal have had the rub of green that City have had this season, we would also be ahead on the table. Look at yesterday for example, Southampton first goal was questionable. My problem with City decisions is they are bordering on scandalous officiating. The point you made about is what worries me about City. They seemed to have stockpiled forwards while Arsenal and Chelsea are lightweight in that position. When I look at the number of points that Liverpool have accumulated this season by simply having two fantastic forwards, you realize how much of a disadvantage Arsenal have at the moment. I think if we do sign Draxler, he would bring in a boost to the club but he doesnt necessarily solve the striking problem we have at the club. I am sure that that strike force is what scares Mourhino the most. They lost their best striker Aguero to injury for over a month and didn't miss a beat. Aguero has 25 goals so far this season despite several games missed. Giroud only has 14. Negredo has 23 goals, Dzeko has 17 goals and Yaya has 15 goals from midfield. Those are staggering numbers. It's going to be hard to beat them because they score effortlessly. Liverpool with Sturridge and Suarez is very dangerous. They have the most favorable schedule the rest of the way and the second best striking force behind city. They are a dark horse to win the title if City stumbles.
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dream_team
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Jan 30 2014, 08:31 AM
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Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous." Example 1) "there's nothing special about city" that quote was after the 6-3 win over Arsenal. Let me know if you want no 2.
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mlshock35
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Jan 30 2014, 08:45 AM
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If we are going to win the title, we need to take 6pts out of 9 when we next meet ManU, City and Chelsea. At some point, we need to prove we can piss with the big dogs in the tall weeds.
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dream_team
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Jan 30 2014, 08:55 AM
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In other news... Did anyone notice how Spurs were drubbed by City? I mean the last time it happened a gang load of threads were started by someone. Now he's manifestly got nothing to say. looooooooooooooooool, don't even start santry, you'll get ur ass handed to ya again. The last time they lost to city they had 11 men from start to finish conceded six scored nil, yesterday they played half of the game with 10 men and was still able to score and conceded one less. When it was 11 vs 11 the core was 1-nil Santry and a goal was disallowed. How about this for, tottenham are now 5th, scoring a lot of goals, and have only lost one league game under the new rookie coach, while under the 'clearly talented' manager they were losing like 1 in 2 games, couldn't put the ball at the back the net, couldn't create chances and they were 7th
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Jan 30 2014, 10:58 AM
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Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous."
Example 1) "there's nothing special about city" that quote was after the 6-3 win over Arsenal. Let me know if you want no 2. Hey momo, I was asking yer pal to flex his knowledge muscles when he decides to call someone ridiculous. You generally submit something to back up your statements, though just as often as not, what you submit is "ridiculous."
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Gooner0893
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Jan 30 2014, 11:06 AM
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- Jan 29 2014, 09:02 PM
Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous."
Example 1) "there's nothing special about city" that quote was after the 6-3 win over Arsenal. Let me know if you want no 2.
Hey momo, I was asking yer pal to flex his knowledge muscles when he decides to call someone ridiculous. You generally submit something to back up your statements, though just as often as not, what you submit is "ridiculous." How about the fact that my statement was aimed at Phato and not at you.
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Jan 30 2014, 11:08 AM
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Phato, I know you hate City but some of your comments are ridiculous.
If his statements are "ridiculous." quote some of them and tear them apart. Otherwise, you're the one that appears "ridiculous."
Example 1) "there's nothing special about city" that quote was after the 6-3 win over Arsenal. Let me know if you want no 2.
Hey momo, I was asking yer pal to flex his knowledge muscles when he decides to call someone ridiculous. You generally submit something to back up your statements, though just as often as not, what you submit is "ridiculous."
How about the fact that my statement was aimed at Phato and not at you. Momo number two. It's a public forum. If you want to have private communication, I would suggest email or the US Postal Service.
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