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Gooner0893
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Jan 31 2014, 12:26 AM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking.
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Jan 31 2014, 12:54 AM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking. I find your comment kind of silly I am sorry to say. This is an Arsenal board and posting an article talking about how brilliant City are on the Arsenal board is at the very least in bad taste. Nobody wants to read that stuff here (except perhaps the closet City fans). They were aided by the linesman, I dont think that is debatable. They had a goal chalked off for being offside and a penalty and red card that never was in that game. If you are competing against a team and you see that happen 3 or 4 times during the course of the season, you have to talk about it. Now this has happened in the last two months, it think it is incredible you want us to pretend that these things never happened.
I dont know what to say about your comment about Aguerro. City have spent 1 billion and stockpiled players. Do you want us to feel sorry that one of their players is injured or you want us to creme on our pants that they had quality replacements sitting on the bench? When a team can spend money like it is going out of fashion and then pay ridiculous wages, I dont think there is anything special in them having quality players in the starting line up and starting quality players sitting on the bench without complaining. In fact I think it is quite amazing that Arsenal have pushed them to this point and if you are really an Arsenal fan you would be rooting for us to keep going and push them to the very end.
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Jan 31 2014, 01:39 AM
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I don't know why some people with accountancy quals don't just get the balance sheets out and touch themselves where it feels good over the income stream that City have straight from a hole in the ground in Qatar.
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Jan 31 2014, 02:22 AM
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Gazillionaire envy.
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Jan 31 2014, 07:36 AM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking.
I find your comment kind of silly I am sorry to say. This is an Arsenal board and posting an article talking about how brilliant City are on the Arsenal board is at the very least in bad taste. Nobody wants to read that stuff here (except perhaps the closet City fans). They were aided by the linesman, I dont think that is debatable. They had a goal chalked off for being offside and a penalty and red card that never was in that game. If you are competing against a team and you see that happen 3 or 4 times during the course of the season, you have to talk about it. Now this has happened in the last two months, it think it is incredible you want us to pretend that these things never happened. I dont know what to say about your comment about Aguerro. City have spent 1 billion and stockpiled players. Do you want us to feel sorry that one of their players is injured or you want us to creme on our pants that they had quality replacements sitting on the bench? When a team can spend money like it is going out of fashion and then pay ridiculous wages, I dont think there is anything special in them having quality players in the starting line up and starting quality players sitting on the bench without complaining. In fact I think it is quite amazing that Arsenal have pushed them to this point and if you are really an Arsenal fan you would be rooting for us to keep going and push them to the very end. well apologies for posting that piece here, I ran across the article accidentally on twitter(I think it was janusz michallik who posted it) and I believed it was relevant to what we are discussing on this thread. As for the red card, it was harsh, but I've pointed out that the big teams always get majority of these calls. The goal that was ruled out by the way was correctly ruled out, in the first place it wasn't a free kick as Danny rose was hardly touched, and adebayor was clearly offside and he was involved in play. At some point this season we would get those calls too and it would more or less even out at the end.
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Jan 31 2014, 09:22 AM
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And in other news Aguero is back on the treament table and is out for a month while this guy-david ornstein from bbc says that Kim Kardashian oops sorry its Kim Kallstrom is having a medical at Arsenal later today and would be joining us on loan. Actually they said he has already arrived at our training ground.
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Jan 31 2014, 10:51 AM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking.
I find your comment kind of silly I am sorry to say. This is an Arsenal board and posting an article talking about how brilliant City are on the Arsenal board is at the very least in bad taste. Nobody wants to read that stuff here (except perhaps the closet City fans). They were aided by the linesman, I dont think that is debatable. They had a goal chalked off for being offside and a penalty and red card that never was in that game. If you are competing against a team and you see that happen 3 or 4 times during the course of the season, you have to talk about it. Now this has happened in the last two months, it think it is incredible you want us to pretend that these things never happened. I dont know what to say about your comment about Aguerro. City have spent 1 billion and stockpiled players. Do you want us to feel sorry that one of their players is injured or you want us to creme on our pants that they had quality replacements sitting on the bench? When a team can spend money like it is going out of fashion and then pay ridiculous wages, I dont think there is anything special in them having quality players in the starting line up and starting quality players sitting on the bench without complaining. In fact I think it is quite amazing that Arsenal have pushed them to this point and if you are really an Arsenal fan you would be rooting for us to keep going and push them to the very end. Boom. Roasted.
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Jan 31 2014, 10:56 AM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking.
I find your comment kind of silly I am sorry to say. This is an Arsenal board and posting an article talking about how brilliant City are on the Arsenal board is at the very least in bad taste. Nobody wants to read that stuff here (except perhaps the closet City fans). They were aided by the linesman, I dont think that is debatable. They had a goal chalked off for being offside and a penalty and red card that never was in that game. If you are competing against a team and you see that happen 3 or 4 times during the course of the season, you have to talk about it. Now this has happened in the last two months, it think it is incredible you want us to pretend that these things never happened. I dont know what to say about your comment about Aguerro. City have spent 1 billion and stockpiled players. Do you want us to feel sorry that one of their players is injured or you want us to creme on our pants that they had quality replacements sitting on the bench? When a team can spend money like it is going out of fashion and then pay ridiculous wages, I dont think there is anything special in them having quality players in the starting line up and starting quality players sitting on the bench without complaining. In fact I think it is quite amazing that Arsenal have pushed them to this point and if you are really an Arsenal fan you would be rooting for us to keep going and push them to the very end.
well apologies for posting that piece here, I ran across the article accidentally on twitter(I think it was janusz michallik who posted it) and I believed it was relevant to what we are discussing on this thread. As for the red card, it was harsh, but I've pointed out that the big teams always get majority of these calls. The goal that was ruled out by the way was correctly ruled out, in the first place it wasn't a free kick as Danny rose was hardly touched, and adebayor was clearly offside and he was involved in play. At some point this season we would get those calls too and it would more or less even out at the end. I wish we do get those calls, I wish one of Southampton goal was chalked off. Instead Southampton got a questionable free kick and even the goal looked like a foul on Monreal. I wish we got a penalty when we played Chelsea and had a Chelsea player sent off. Actually we should have rightly gotten a penalty and a Chelsea player should have been sent off. You see this calls do matter. if Southampton had a goal chalked off we would still be on top of the league. If Chelsea conceded a penalty and a red card, they would be 5 points behind us right now. I don't see people complaining too much about these calls because there is a belief that things even out but they really don't. The reason why people here are complaining is because of how blatant these City decisions are right now. The reason why City get away with these decisions is that they score many goals and gloss over these decisions. If Arsenal were playing Spurs and got a penalty and red card, we probably would have stopped scoring at that point. If we were playing Newcastle and they had a goal chalked off, we probably wouldn't score a second. However considering Arsenal hardly ever concede, if we have had 2-3 games with those type of decisions, we would be 4-6 points ahead of City. I don't see how it can balance out, the amount of bad decisions City would need to have or good decisions that we would need is simply too much. In fact I worry that if the linesmen are still on the payroll, they would still get more of these decisions between now and the end of the season.
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Gooner0893
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Jan 31 2014, 11:51 AM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking.
I find your comment kind of silly I am sorry to say. This is an Arsenal board and posting an article talking about how brilliant City are on the Arsenal board is at the very least in bad taste. Nobody wants to read that stuff here (except perhaps the closet City fans). They were aided by the linesman, I dont think that is debatable. They had a goal chalked off for being offside and a penalty and red card that never was in that game. If you are competing against a team and you see that happen 3 or 4 times during the course of the season, you have to talk about it. Now this has happened in the last two months, it think it is incredible you want us to pretend that these things never happened. I dont know what to say about your comment about Aguerro. City have spent 1 billion and stockpiled players. Do you want us to feel sorry that one of their players is injured or you want us to creme on our pants that they had quality replacements sitting on the bench? When a team can spend money like it is going out of fashion and then pay ridiculous wages, I dont think there is anything special in them having quality players in the starting line up and starting quality players sitting on the bench without complaining. In fact I think it is quite amazing that Arsenal have pushed them to this point and if you are really an Arsenal fan you would be rooting for us to keep going and push them to the very end.
well apologies for posting that piece here, I ran across the article accidentally on twitter(I think it was janusz michallik who posted it) and I believed it was relevant to what we are discussing on this thread. As for the red card, it was harsh, but I've pointed out that the big teams always get majority of these calls. The goal that was ruled out by the way was correctly ruled out, in the first place it wasn't a free kick as Danny rose was hardly touched, and adebayor was clearly offside and he was involved in play. At some point this season we would get those calls too and it would more or less even out at the end.
I wish we do get those calls, I wish one of Southampton goal was chalked off. Instead Southampton got a questionable free kick and even the goal looked like a foul on Monreal. I wish we got a penalty when we played Chelsea and had a Chelsea player sent off. Actually we should have rightly gotten a penalty and a Chelsea player should have been sent off. You see this calls do matter. if Southampton had a goal chalked off we would still be on top of the league. If Chelsea conceded a penalty and a red card, they would be 5 points behind us right now. I don't see people complaining too much about these calls because there is a belief that things even out but they really don't. The reason why people here are complaining is because of how blatant these City decisions are right now. The reason why City get away with these decisions is that they score many goals and gloss over these decisions. If Arsenal were playing Spurs and got a penalty and red card, we probably would have stopped scoring at that point. If we were playing Newcastle and they had a goal chalked off, we probably wouldn't score a second. However considering Arsenal hardly ever concede, if we have had 2-3 games with those type of decisions, we would be 4-6 points ahead of City. I don't see how it can balance out, the amount of bad decisions City would need to have or good decisions that we would need is simply too much. In fact I worry that if the linesmen are still on the payroll, they would still get more of these decisions between now and the end of the season. This is your most ludicrous statement yet. Arsenal gets calls all the time, and so does united, Chelsea and City. As a matter of fact, the big teams always get more calls than the small teams. You have gone from attacking United for getting calls to Chelsea, then back to united and now it's city. Arsenal this season has gotten more good calls and than bad calls. These refs are imperfect, they have a split second to make decisions. The goal scored by Tots in the first half was correctly called a non-goal. Adebayor who was offside clearly influenced the play. The penalty decision was a close one. It was a rash challenge by Rose even though he touched the ball. Once again, the refs have a split second to make these decisions. Try refereeing once in your lifetime and you see how hard it is to make these instant decisions dealing with close calls. I have done it.
This is the Arsenal board and not a forum to offer praise to rival teams. But it is also a football forum and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that another team is playing great like Dream did. Go on redcafe and you will ManU acknowledge the play of other teams. You sound like a simpleton when you claim that city wins solely because they catch breaks from the refs and are lucky. I agree that Wenger and Arsenal deserve credit for being this close this far in the season. However, Arsenal is a big club and Wenger has been at the club for 17 years. It was always going to take time for City, United and Chelsea to find a rhythm. City is the most talented team followed by Chelsea and Arsenal. Arsenal should compete for the title this year because Wenger had a team that wasn't in transition and he had the opportunity to bring in a capable striker and did not do so.
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Jan 31 2014, 12:16 PM
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I think that Dream didn't get the memo. You are only supposed to say that City is lucky and aided by the refs. It's too early to crown them but they are scary and have so much talent. Every other team in the world who loses a player of the caliber of Aguero who has 25 goals in 24 games and they will struggle. City are not even worried. I don't think that there is a single player in Tots starting 11 who could get into City's starting 11 other than maybe Lloris. No team should be ashamed of losing to them. Their football in the first half against Spurs was breathtaking.
I find your comment kind of silly I am sorry to say. This is an Arsenal board and posting an article talking about how brilliant City are on the Arsenal board is at the very least in bad taste. Nobody wants to read that stuff here (except perhaps the closet City fans). They were aided by the linesman, I dont think that is debatable. They had a goal chalked off for being offside and a penalty and red card that never was in that game. If you are competing against a team and you see that happen 3 or 4 times during the course of the season, you have to talk about it. Now this has happened in the last two months, it think it is incredible you want us to pretend that these things never happened. I dont know what to say about your comment about Aguerro. City have spent 1 billion and stockpiled players. Do you want us to feel sorry that one of their players is injured or you want us to creme on our pants that they had quality replacements sitting on the bench? When a team can spend money like it is going out of fashion and then pay ridiculous wages, I dont think there is anything special in them having quality players in the starting line up and starting quality players sitting on the bench without complaining. In fact I think it is quite amazing that Arsenal have pushed them to this point and if you are really an Arsenal fan you would be rooting for us to keep going and push them to the very end.
well apologies for posting that piece here, I ran across the article accidentally on twitter(I think it was janusz michallik who posted it) and I believed it was relevant to what we are discussing on this thread. As for the red card, it was harsh, but I've pointed out that the big teams always get majority of these calls. The goal that was ruled out by the way was correctly ruled out, in the first place it wasn't a free kick as Danny rose was hardly touched, and adebayor was clearly offside and he was involved in play. At some point this season we would get those calls too and it would more or less even out at the end.
I wish we do get those calls, I wish one of Southampton goal was chalked off. Instead Southampton got a questionable free kick and even the goal looked like a foul on Monreal. I wish we got a penalty when we played Chelsea and had a Chelsea player sent off. Actually we should have rightly gotten a penalty and a Chelsea player should have been sent off. You see this calls do matter. if Southampton had a goal chalked off we would still be on top of the league. If Chelsea conceded a penalty and a red card, they would be 5 points behind us right now. I don't see people complaining too much about these calls because there is a belief that things even out but they really don't. The reason why people here are complaining is because of how blatant these City decisions are right now. The reason why City get away with these decisions is that they score many goals and gloss over these decisions. If Arsenal were playing Spurs and got a penalty and red card, we probably would have stopped scoring at that point. If we were playing Newcastle and they had a goal chalked off, we probably wouldn't score a second. However considering Arsenal hardly ever concede, if we have had 2-3 games with those type of decisions, we would be 4-6 points ahead of City. I don't see how it can balance out, the amount of bad decisions City would need to have or good decisions that we would need is simply too much. In fact I worry that if the linesmen are still on the payroll, they would still get more of these decisions between now and the end of the season.
This is your most ludicrous statement yet. Arsenal gets calls all the time, and so does united, Chelsea and City. As a matter of fact, the big teams always get more calls than the small teams. You have gone from attacking United for getting calls to Chelsea, then back to united and now it's city. Arsenal this season has gotten more good calls and than bad calls. These refs are imperfect, they have a split second to make decisions. The goal scored by Tots in the first half was correctly called a non-goal. Adebayor who was offside clearly influenced the play. The penalty decision was a close one. It was a rash challenge by Rose even though he touched the ball. Once again, the refs have a split second to make these decisions. Try refereeing once in your lifetime and you see how hard it is to make these instant decisions dealing with close calls. I have done it. This is the Arsenal board and not a forum to offer praise to rival teams. But it is also a football forum and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that another team is playing great like Dream did. Go on redcafe and you will ManU acknowledge the play of other teams. You sound like a simpleton when you claim that city wins solely because they catch breaks from the refs and are lucky. I agree that Wenger and Arsenal deserve credit for being this close this far in the season. However, Arsenal is a big club and Wenger has been at the club for 17 years. It was always going to take time for City, United and Chelsea to find a rhythm. City is the most talented team followed by Chelsea and Arsenal. Arsenal should compete for the title this year because Wenger had a team that wasn't in transition and he had the opportunity to bring in a capable striker and did not do so. "This is the Arsenal board and not a forum to offer praise to rival teams. But it is also a football forum and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that another team is playing great like Dream did."
Quite the little bundle of contradiction, ain't you? Kinda like Chinatown: "She's my daughter. She's my sister..."
Arsenal supporters here and everywhere else generally resent clubs like City and Chelsea, so when fellas like you and The Piz start in with your sessions of worship for Mourinho and now just about everything City, you get all the derision that you deserve.
I crudely suggested earlier that pizzy should support the team he obviously so admires. How about you join him?
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