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Arsenal vs Crystal Palace
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Topic Started: Feb 2 2014, 04:36 AM (1,586 Views)
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gunnerwynner
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Feb 5 2014, 04:33 AM
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed. I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up.
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santry_gooner
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Feb 5 2014, 05:47 PM
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- gunnerwynner
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed.
I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up. My excuse is worse than yours. I didn't even think about him.
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gunnerwynner
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Feb 6 2014, 03:01 AM
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed.
I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up.
My excuse is worse than yours. I didn't even think about him. He will be in the starting eleven from Wenger's point of view especially with Walcott and Ramsey injured. His combination with Wilshere is very positive along with Ozil, Cazorla.
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santry_gooner
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Feb 6 2014, 06:25 PM
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- santry_gooner
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed.
I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up.
My excuse is worse than yours. I didn't even think about him.
He will be in the starting eleven from Wenger's point of view especially with Walcott and Ramsey injured. His combination with Wilshere is very positive along with Ozil, Cazorla. I actually think him and Wilshere don't combine well. But how and ever, yes to the other partnerships.
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Feb 6 2014, 09:23 PM
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed.
I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up.
My excuse is worse than yours. I didn't even think about him.
He will be in the starting eleven from Wenger's point of view especially with Walcott and Ramsey injured. His combination with Wilshere is very positive along with Ozil, Cazorla.
I actually think him and Wilshere don't combine well. But how and ever, yes to the other partnerships. I think that the back four + the Pol in the goal is so strong that Wilshere can actually slot in behind the attack and not only distribute the ball as efficiently as Arteta, but far more incisively.
Back five Wilshere The Ox, Ozil Gnabry, Giroud, Podolski/Santi
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Feb 6 2014, 09:54 PM
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed.
I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up.
My excuse is worse than yours. I didn't even think about him.
He will be in the starting eleven from Wenger's point of view especially with Walcott and Ramsey injured. His combination with Wilshere is very positive along with Ozil, Cazorla.
I actually think him and Wilshere don't combine well. But how and ever, yes to the other partnerships.
I think that the back four + the Pol in the goal is so strong that Wilshere can actually slot in behind the attack and not only distribute the ball as efficiently as Arteta, but far more incisively. Back five Wilshere The Ox, Ozil Gnabry, Giroud, Podolski/Santi Wilshere isn't half as good as Arteta defensively when it comes to reading the game and being in the right place at the right time, which is required from that position in most games at the highest level. Arsenal haven't looked very good with Wilshere playing as the deepest midfielder. Also, his greatest asset is probably his ability to break forward, so playing him in that position is kind of wasteful anyways.
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Feb 7 2014, 04:33 PM
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I think Arteta deserves a special mention in this game. I watched the game on replay a few minutes ago and he did the right thing under pressure so many times that it is startling. Here's some stats that justify my eyes fixing on him. It could also be that I feel guilty (along with Wynner)!for forgetting that this world class player was available for selection. Shame on anyone who wrote him off: 
Arteta's passing accuracy should always be on the high side given the fact he tends to take the safe play in favor of the adventurous. That's not intended as a criticism, just context for the numbers. I like the fact he places a high value on ball retention and almost always makes himself available as an outlet for teammates. It's unspectacular stuff and easy to overlook, but like the rudder on a boat, if you're missing it you're screwed.
I thought he was injured and not available, that's why I left him out of the team entirely in my likely line-up.
My excuse is worse than yours. I didn't even think about him.
He will be in the starting eleven from Wenger's point of view especially with Walcott and Ramsey injured. His combination with Wilshere is very positive along with Ozil, Cazorla.
I actually think him and Wilshere don't combine well. But how and ever, yes to the other partnerships.
I think that the back four + the Pol in the goal is so strong that Wilshere can actually slot in behind the attack and not only distribute the ball as efficiently as Arteta, but far more incisively. Back five Wilshere The Ox, Ozil Gnabry, Giroud, Podolski/Santi
Wilshere isn't half as good as Arteta defensively when it comes to reading the game and being in the right place at the right time, which is required from that position in most games at the highest level. Arsenal haven't looked very good with Wilshere playing as the deepest midfielder. Also, his greatest asset is probably his ability to break forward, so playing him in that position is kind of wasteful anyways. Granted, it was v Coventry, but what I saw, I liked. Wilshere laid back and moved the ball from side to side, but he also had the freedom to penetrate as well. With awareness and interchange, a team like Arsenal that has a quality backbone can afford to attack more. And I think that the danger presented by the attackers that I have selected (throw Rosicky into the mix as well) is a form of defense in and of itself.
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Feb 8 2014, 01:41 AM
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Our back four is quality but not without their weaknesses. Arteta and Flamini should certainly be given some of the credit for the fine defensive performances. At this point I don't really think we can afford to go without either of them. The first game against Villa we were absolutely shredded by Agbonlahor strolling through our midfield when Jack and Ramsey were partnered in the double pivot. Against City too we struggled with fast dribbling from the MF. Per's obvious weakness is people running at him. Kosc has a tendency to go for dangerous, last ditch tackles in those situations.
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santry_gooner
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Feb 8 2014, 02:50 AM
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Our back four is quality but not without their weaknesses. Arteta and Flamini should certainly be given some of the credit for the fine defensive performances. At this point I don't really think we can afford to go without either of them. The first game against Villa we were absolutely shredded by Agbonlahor strolling through our midfield when Jack and Ramsey were partnered in the double pivot. Against City too we struggled with fast dribbling from the MF. Per's obvious weakness is people running at him. Kosc has a tendency to go for dangerous, last ditch tackles in those situations.
The main weakness is the ball in behind them. Per mostly doesn't recover ground, while Kos does get there slightly too strongly. Why they have held out against a lot of attackers is that midfield clicked last January and so the ball in behind that harms us has to come from 30m further away. That gives us an extra couple of seconds. And to their credit both of them are excellent at reading and muscling their way to snuffing out those balls.thats why we do well against long-ball teams, while short passing teams (like Southampton) are able to score more often.
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