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A Mourinho Masterclass
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Feb 4 2014, 09:42 AM
I find it astonishing that some people still won't give Mourinho any credit and still refer to him as a 'myth' despite him doing what no other mangers in the EPL could do.
What Mourinho once again showed yesterday is that despite our impressive season so far, he's still Wenger's master. And believe it or not(I know this would make some people blood boil) but Wenger has actually imitated Mourinho's system this season, well he started it from last season.
Watch out! The Wenger rites will come rushing now!
Are you now the fourth member of the SLG's? If so, I hope that they gave you a nice welcome gift.

I credited Juse for his cagey approach to yesterday's game. I doubt Pellegrinin had any idea that Chelsea would press so high with that alignment.

Credit to the Special Cunt, and thanks from Goonerland. But I refuse to bob on his knob or flog Wenger. To the rest of you, though, "Bon appetit."
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Feb 4 2014, 12:13 PM
If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
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This is the thing. Chelsea deserve HUGE credit for showing how to defeat man city in midfield. Defeat their midfield and cut off the ammunition to a wonderful strike force. Play it cagey, but occasionally break forward and find nervous defenders who are out of position.

So let's say midfield master class by Chelsea. The rest of it, like their final ball or their finishing lacks something. Their defence is good, but not great. Chelsea will struggle against lesser teams in their remaining fixtures, unless they score early on they play nervously themselves (when expected to win).
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
Good reminder of the amount of time and space we had ourselves against City. Problem was, we gave the ball away so often and so needlessly we couldn't take advantage of it.

That is something we will fix in the rematch, but another concern is our relative lack of physical strength. Chelsea was able to match power with power in a way we can't duplicate. Despite being encouraged by yesterday's result, I still see City as our most formidable opponent.
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
First of all we didn't get two goals which were 'wrongly' disallowed, I only remember one which was close you keep insisting they got away with one how? what did we do with the amount of space we had though? we just simply gave it back to them? when Chelsea got the ball yesterday they break away in numbers, we do not do that at Arsenal.
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
First of all we didn't get two goals which were 'wrongly' disallowed, I only remember one which was close you keep insisting they got away with one how? what did we do with the amount of space we had though? we just simply gave it back to them? when Chelsea got the ball yesterday they break away in numbers, we do not do that at Arsenal.
Then piss off and support Chelsea. Pathetic SLG.
Edited by JustOneDennisBergkamp, Feb 4 2014, 02:54 PM.
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
First of all we didn't get two goals which were 'wrongly' disallowed, I only remember one which was close you keep insisting they got away with one how? what did we do with the amount of space we had though? we just simply gave it back to them? when Chelsea got the ball yesterday they break away in numbers, we do not do that at Arsenal.
Giroud had the ball in the back of the net as well as Bendtner. Zabelata used his hand to block a brilliant through pass towards Walcott that should have been a stonewall penalty. On the other end they got a penalty that was dubious with Milner dragging his leg. In any case Arsenal scored 2 more goals than Chelsea and so I would say we actually did more with the amount of time and space we had. It is at the other end that we completely collapsed in our worst defensive display in over a year. I don't think Chelsea did anything special going forward, Theo Walcott had as good a game as Hazard against City. What was impressive was Chelsea's ability to stop City. They also didn't have to play a difficult game away in Italy with 10 men for at least half an hour and then go on the road to City 3 days later. I am sure that helps.
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
First of all we didn't get two goals which were 'wrongly' disallowed, I only remember one which was close you keep insisting they got away with one how? what did we do with the amount of space we had though? we just simply gave it back to them? when Chelsea got the ball yesterday they break away in numbers, we do not do that at Arsenal.
Giroud had the ball in the back of the net as well as Bendtner. Zabelata used his hand to block a brilliant through pass towards Walcott that should have been a stonewall penalty. On the other end they got a penalty that was dubious with Milner dragging his leg. In any case Arsenal scored 2 more goals than Chelsea and so I would say we actually did more with the amount of time and space we had. It is at the other end that we completely collapsed in our worst defensive display in over a year. I don't think Chelsea did anything special going forward, Theo Walcott had as good a game as Hazard against City. What was impressive was Chelsea's ability to stop City. They also didn't have to play a difficult game away in Italy with 10 men for at least half an hour and then go on the road to City 3 days later. I am sure that helps.
First of all let's dismiss that excuse of the 'difficult' away game we played in Napoli (Arteta was dismissed in the 77th minute by the way), every team can give excuses for a loss, City certainly could have given a lot of excuses for yesterday game, including having key players out and playing a lot of games in January. Anyway City shouldn't give an excuse and we shouldn't give an excuse for our loss at the Etihad.
I don't know which game you watched but that penalty was anything but dubious, do you have a video of the Giroud goal?, because I can't recall him scoring a legitimate goal in that game. City were deserved winners that day, and can't even understand how anyone would dispute that.
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
First of all we didn't get two goals which were 'wrongly' disallowed, I only remember one which was close you keep insisting they got away with one how? what did we do with the amount of space we had though? we just simply gave it back to them? when Chelsea got the ball yesterday they break away in numbers, we do not do that at Arsenal.
Giroud had the ball in the back of the net as well as Bendtner. Zabelata used his hand to block a brilliant through pass towards Walcott that should have been a stonewall penalty. On the other end they got a penalty that was dubious with Milner dragging his leg. In any case Arsenal scored 2 more goals than Chelsea and so I would say we actually did more with the amount of time and space we had. It is at the other end that we completely collapsed in our worst defensive display in over a year. I don't think Chelsea did anything special going forward, Theo Walcott had as good a game as Hazard against City. What was impressive was Chelsea's ability to stop City. They also didn't have to play a difficult game away in Italy with 10 men for at least half an hour and then go on the road to City 3 days later. I am sure that helps.
First of all let's dismiss that excuse of the 'difficult' away game we played in Napoli (Arteta was dismissed in the 77th minute by the way), every team can give excuses for a loss, City certainly could have given a lot of excuses for yesterday game, including having key players out and playing a lot of games in January. Anyway City shouldn't give an excuse and we shouldn't give an excuse for our loss at the Etihad.
I don't know which game you watched but that penalty was anything but dubious, do you have a video of the Giroud goal?, because I can't recall him scoring a legitimate goal in that game. City were deserved winners that day, and can't even understand how anyone would dispute that.
That was exactly the excuse the City coach gave after the game that they had injuries. He also said he didnt believe the best team won today. In any case there is no need debating about the past, what has happened has happened. I felt like yesterday's game was what I have been saying about City for a while and finally somebody exploited their weaknesses. Arsenal would have their own chance too to do City when they come to the Emirates. I hope then you wouldnt say that Mourinho taught Wenger how to beat City if Arsenal win.
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If I relied only on reports here I'd think Chelsea won by four or five goals yesterday and that City's season is now in tatters. Chelsea could well have had more than the one they got, but City had good chances themselves, especially in the early going, and the match was close throughout.

Credit to Mourinho and his men for going into the lion's den and coming out winners. But the piling on here about how Chelsea exposed City's weaknesses ignores the fact that in many ways, City is an ideal opponent for Chelsea. Mourinho is accustomed (and prefers) to sit back with a strong and disciplined defense and exploit openings and City is only too happy to bomb forward in numbers, thereby leaving those openings. They're an irresistible force against a lesser (or less well organized) defense, but Chelsea have both the mental and physical strength to slow them down and the speed and guile to open them up on the counter. I'm not at all surprised at the result.

Great game, but it was only one game. City are still one result from the top and will be in the hunt for the duration.
I dont think it is without reason. When you hit the post 3 times, you are more than right to feel you could have won by more. Man City also looked completely in tatters whenever Chelsea broke with the ball. When Arsenal played City, I was blown away by the amount of space and time we had on the ball when we broke forward and we did have the ball in the back of the net 5 times even though we had goals unfairly disallowed a couple of times. I feel like City got away with one when they faced Arsenal and this game gives me the confidence that we can do them. If we can do a better job like Chelsea defensively, we could really exploit the time and space we have at the other end. In any case until we meet at the Emirates, then we can put things right. In the mean time I am sure other coaches in the League must be looking at what Chelsea did and think, well we could replicate this...
First of all we didn't get two goals which were 'wrongly' disallowed, I only remember one which was close you keep insisting they got away with one how? what did we do with the amount of space we had though? we just simply gave it back to them? when Chelsea got the ball yesterday they break away in numbers, we do not do that at Arsenal.
Then piss off and support Chelsea. Pathetic SLG.
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