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| JustOneDennisBergkamp | Feb 7 2014, 03:59 PM Post #11 |
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With Beckham, Scholes and Giggs, dare we say "Manchester Re-United?" |
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| cruyff_turn | Feb 7 2014, 04:05 PM Post #12 |
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Boo this man. |
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| JustOneDennisBergkamp | Feb 7 2014, 04:07 PM Post #13 |
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I guess I appreciate you stopping short of a call for rotting vegetables. |
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| phatosas | Feb 7 2014, 05:23 PM Post #14 |
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I think the MLS sucks and that is the fundamental problem. The fact that you have a large Hispanic population dosent necessarily mean they would automatically adopt a sucky team in Maimi. I wouldn't go to see an MLS game if it was free let alone pay 25 dollars to see a game. However if the Red Bulls were coming to town, I wouldn't mind paying just to see Henry play even though he is a tenth of what he once was as a player. The success or failure of Beck's venture would come down to the quality of the product. |
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| jays712 | Feb 7 2014, 05:35 PM Post #15 |
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The Union have been mostly a middling team since their inception and they sell out almost every home game. It's all about having a strong fan base and you have that here in the Philly area for the sport. In Miami, I'm not so sure you could say the same thing for a middling team. I agree, the MLS isn't great soccer by a mile. I would call it lower Championship level but improving slowly. |
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| santry_gooner | Feb 8 2014, 02:44 AM Post #16 |
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I think there's some great points here. Given past history of segregation and poor fan support Beckham is looking at: (A) one of the ethnic groups being the fans, with that further subdivided socio-economically into who can afford to attend. (B) making such a big impact that all sections of the segregated City unify behind it. I wish him luck, and he's going to need a lot of money to do this if the "product" is to be the draw it needs to be. |
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| rw_mlite2 | Feb 8 2014, 12:49 PM Post #17 |
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You're being a snob here, phato. While it will never be confused with any top Euro league, MLS has improved quite a bit over the last 5 years, or so. Some teams actually try to play now and individually skilled players are becoming more numerous. |
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| rw_mlite2 | Feb 8 2014, 12:54 PM Post #18 |
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This segregation thing is overblown. It exists everywhere and makes no difference when it comes to supporting a team. People naturally congregate with those most similar to themselves (not to say there isn't urban white flight in many U.S. cities). Anyway, the point is, MLS teams are well supported throughout the league (mostly), and it makes no difference what the racial layout of the city looks like. |
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| jays712 | Feb 8 2014, 01:16 PM Post #19 |
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Reading some of this, you would think Miami is seperated by the Berlin Wall. What large metro city doesn't have a wide ranging mix of people from various ethnic and socio-economic backgrounds? I stand by what I stated, the entire Florida area has been mostly a wasteland for pro sports teams. As a whole, much of the South care more about the SEC and the ACC than the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, or the MLS. |
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| phatosas | Feb 8 2014, 05:26 PM Post #20 |
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Jays there are aspect of what you say that is true, I lived in Boston for 3 years now and I know that the people are more passionate about their support. I also see ticket prizes for various sports and I am blown away. Even now that the Celtics suck, their tickets are still high. If you charge those prizes in Miami, you would struggle to feel the arena. However I also think the idea that Florida is a wasteland for sports is a bit of an overstatement. I think it is somewhere in the middle, fans are a bit lackadaisical but not completely disengaged as you think. It is almost like fans are too cool to be crazy but attendance numbers for NFL and the NBA in Miami are pretty decent. rw_mlite, my comment about the MLS isnt an attempt to be a snob, as somebody that grew up watching the Premier League, LaLiga, Seria A and the Champions League, it is hard to get engaged in the MLS. I root for the MLS because if Americans embrace the sports, it would benefit those of us that live here. I remember when I first got to the US, i was lucky to watch one premier league game every week with Spanish commentary on Fox Sports en espanol. We used to congregate to watch CL games at a sports bar at my school. Today I have a chance to watch every premier league game weekly on local cable. However I think the MLS cannot be like other sports in the country, they have to copy the European system. Things like the draft, Salary cap, restriction on the number of big signings you can make might have kept the league afloat but it is time the league allow teams a bit more freedom to expand and be more ambitious. |
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