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Maureen again proves a lack of class
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Topic Started: Aug 12 2015, 08:16 PM (1,408 Views)
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Sep 27 2015, 10:39 PM
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Somebody else's opinion:  Major applause. Good thing there are no Chelsea supporters on this forum to object to or argue with this.
Fug all dem Blues!
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KamyFC
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Sep 28 2015, 12:07 AM
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Looks like someone is a voyeur. Always talking about other managers and other teams.
If Gabriel had acted the way Costa did and cost them the match, he would have wished Gabriel died on the pitch (yes he has wished that on a player before).
But anyway, Wenger has his job security because he has earned it. Simple as that. He needs to focus on spending Abramovich's money a little better and less on what Arsenal are up to. Might help him keep his job past Christmas.
But he didn't earn it by winning silverware. He earned it by turning profits. That's the problem that a lot of people have. It's not about the football that he produces. It's the dividends... Well for me actually turning profits is not the problem. Clubs have to be profitable to survive and they have done so for 100 years+, else we would not be having clubs. They can say its for the community blah blah. Ultimately its a business and you have to run responsibly.
Wenger has great qualities that i admire *** is a great manager who has the remarkable consistency to dispatch mid table and lower table teams *** is a great man manager. He never ever blames players in front of media like LVG does. I respect him for that *** develops young players and gives them a chance *** Running the club responsibly
Here are the issues, i have currently or over the last 5 years *** Not answering to anyone and no yearly targets of improvement. Which leads to stagnation and sometimes even questions of lack of ambition. *** Not being proactive in the transfer market. Always reactive. Example - Giroud got injured last year and he got Welbeck. *** Not taking that extra step in strengthening the squad. This summer was great example of that. It again ties down to first point (Not answering to anyone and no yearly targets of improvement) *** We always mentally collapse, when the pressure is on. This has happened across generations. not just 1 team. *** Limited tactical flexibility, where he is ultimately found out against the Elite managers.
I can add another point in his issues list - Lack of emphasis in defense and defending as a team. But for the first time in 10+ years , i'm seeing an Arsenal team defend as a team. Which is a pleasant surprise. It is not easy to beat us now. Am sure Bayern will see a different Arsenal to what they saw 2-3 years back. Credit to Wenger for atlast realizing defensive organization is most important aspect.
Anyway i still think we have a very good chance of 'competing'. But again due to our manager's gambling, we are totally dependent on Le Coq's fitness and Theo stepping up to score goals.
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billabog5
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Sep 28 2015, 12:17 AM
Post #103
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- JustOneDennisBergkamp
- Sep 25 2015, 10:24 PM
- KamyFC
- Sep 25 2015, 10:18 PM
- JustOneDennisBergkamp
- Sep 25 2015, 02:50 PM
Mourinho, along with many of the Sack Wenger Brigade, thinks apples and oranges taste alike. There is no comparing the clubs and tenures of these two managers. One is a mercenary, the other, an architect.
Architect for what? Failing every year? We are winning jack shit this year. Again. What excuse will u give now, Mr JODB? Gawd! the lengths to which Wenger fanboys defend our manager.
Just tuned in, and here you are getting a bit too big for your britches. You have neither the capacity nor the tenacity for cyber combat with me, klown, so bugger off if you want to talk smack like this. Typical dumb arse shite from another history challenged SLG. I yawn at your perspectiveless taunting, and stand 100% by my post and my manager.
Have you been watching " A few Good Men " again ? Your Jack Nicholson impersonation doesn't wash over the fact that your claiming Wenger as an architect is way off the mark. If he is an architect either the investors or Wenger doesn't trust himself to stump up the money to build his dream . His building has never gotten past the foundations. You can no longer hide behind the argument [ not that it was ever valid] that you had no money to spend on players, there is a 200 million cash reserve , probably the biggest in football, just sat there. SAF did have several lean years spending wise, like the year they sold CR7 & lost Tevez, but he still competed for [won] the title. Don't get me wrong, I think Wenger is an excellent football manager & I think Arsenal are the 2nd best attacking team in the league & he is also finally, in the twilight of his career, learning that defence is every bit as important as attack . You could say he has finally learnt how to design a foundation. I have noticed a definite swing over the past couple or 3 seasons from you on Wenger. I am not sure if its genuine support for Wenger or simply an excuse to don those cyber gloves of yours, but you were as critical of Wenger as anybody here [ with a few notable exceptions] & yet 3 seasons on, no real progress despite masses of money sitting in the bank & quite a bit spent & you are now a self proclaimed Wengerite Kamy has never insulted you, or anyone that I can remember , so when this thread goes South don't come on here apologising for other posters causing the fights & then pathetically setting up fight threads as some kind of fake appeasement when you are THE most guilty of starting the fights.
Yawn. And pay attention more often. Kamy ain't no angel, especially with me in the past. You apparently read through this forum as selectively as he does if you think otherwise. Of course, had you ben called out in a similar fashion, you would have responded with respect and kindness and never would have gone straight to insults. Right. Spare me your admonishment, hypocrite. Compared to a mercenary twat like Jose, Wenger is both architect and builder at The Arsenal. Cheers.
As usual you don't deal with any of the points I raise, you just don those gloves [not that you are that handy with them] Explain how Wenger is an architect & builder when Arsenal have not progressed at all in a decade since the defence he inherited disappeared .
Still here? Stupid hypocrites like you get no real conversation from me. How many first strike "fuckwits" have you launched? Shall we use the search feature here to find out just how big of a stinkin' hypocrite you are?
Question too tough for you dummy ?
If you want to talk footy with me, then drop the standard hypocritical refrain about me being the one who disrupts threads. You're just as bad as I am when it comes to throwing insults, and if you're ready to move on from there, no problema. Otherwise, you continue to act like a silly hypocrite, and there is absolutely no reason for me to take you seriously. No insults, question remains the same
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billabog5
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Sep 28 2015, 12:32 AM
Post #104
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Somebody else's opinion: 
Major applause. Good thing there are no Chelsea supporters on this forum to object to or argue with this. Fug all dem Blues! & Alisher Usmanov is of course a fine upstanding citizen right ?
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Sep 28 2015, 05:34 AM
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Somebody else's opinion: 
Major applause. Good thing there are no Chelsea supporters on this forum to object to or argue with this. Fug all dem Blues!
& Alisher Usmanov is of course a fine upstanding citizen right ? LOL I'm sure JODB and his lapdog Joe will try to avoid this one. So JODB and Joe why will a club of "class" allow a murderer and rapist like Usmanov anywhere near the club?
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jays712
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Sep 28 2015, 08:04 AM
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Dein alone is responsible for Usmanov getting into Arsenal. Not the entire club. The guy sold out to him and how could that have been stopped back then? Maybe if was vetted more than the club could've went into lock down mode earlier to stop Dein. They did it to prevent Usmanov from getting to 30% ownership.
My view is that Dein saw what was happening at Chelsea and figured that was the way to go with another super rich owner. Background be damned. What percent of Chelsea fan boys care about Roman's past exploits? Most sins are forgiven if their club is winning. It's not right but that's a fact.
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jays712
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Sep 28 2015, 08:08 AM
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As for Jose, this is how he operates. He sees AW as an easy target to wind up and fires away at him. He loves the attention ito brings and it deflects attention from his underperforming squad right now.
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Joe Bobs Fine Foods
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Sep 28 2015, 08:11 AM
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Somebody else's opinion: 
Major applause. Good thing there are no Chelsea supporters on this forum to object to or argue with this. Fug all dem Blues!
& Alisher Usmanov is of course a fine upstanding citizen right ? Hey don't blame the messenger. I was just posting a quote.
However: in addition to what Jays said, I might add that once he got his shares Arsenal as an organization seems to have willfully tried to avoid granting him more power.
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Joe Bobs Fine Foods
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Sep 28 2015, 08:12 AM
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As for Jose, this is how he operates. He sees AW as an easy target to wind up and fires away at him. He loves the attention ito brings and it deflects attention from his underperforming squad right now. I just like the fact that the wind up artist, for some odd reason, is clearly wound up.
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jays712
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Sep 28 2015, 08:59 AM
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Wasn't it Dein that also got Kroenke on board?
Details are foggy and I'm not into searching around. My recollection is Dein left cuz he wanted to go the rich guy route and the board didn't want that. Dein then sold to Usmanov and was made chairman of that group. Board then locked down selling shares to keep Usmanov and Dein from getting control. They even kept Usmanov out of the board and he couldn't go to their meetings.
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