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John Stones and the team that ran away with the title 3 months ago!
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Sep 13 2015, 04:31 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 03:09 PM
BTW Pizzy, you were Chelsea's biggest cheerleader last season . The problem isn't a lack of ability, but a lack of the hunger they showed last season. So by your logic Chelsea need a massive clear out ?
read the OP and you'll see the word "hunger" in there...
Chelsea are suffering from a team lacking hunger and some players who are declining fast basically SAME thing that happened to United the season after fergie left...
Utd had replacements for the players 'declining fast" apart from at LB. You were saying the team needed a major overhaul.So clearly you feel the same way about Chelsea now.
Name them!
Replacement for Carrick?
Replacement for Giggs?
Replacement for Evra?
Replacements for BOTH Ferdinand and Vidic?

and also you might want to consider where those players you refer to as "replacements" are now...
Are you serious ? This is what you come back with ? I expect more from you Pizzy. Sadler covered that rubbish & I actually did say Utd needed a replacement for Evra.

Question for you, who do youngster higher, Stones or Luiz ?
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Sep 14 2015, 05:19 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 04:31 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 03:14 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 03:09 PM
BTW Pizzy, you were Chelsea's biggest cheerleader last season . The problem isn't a lack of ability, but a lack of the hunger they showed last season. So by your logic Chelsea need a massive clear out ?
read the OP and you'll see the word "hunger" in there...
Chelsea are suffering from a team lacking hunger and some players who are declining fast basically SAME thing that happened to United the season after fergie left...
Utd had replacements for the players 'declining fast" apart from at LB. You were saying the team needed a major overhaul.So clearly you feel the same way about Chelsea now.
Name them!
Replacement for Carrick?
Replacement for Giggs?
Replacement for Evra?
Replacements for BOTH Ferdinand and Vidic?

and also you might want to consider where those players you refer to as "replacements" are now...
Are you serious ? This is what you come back with ? I expect more from you Pizzy. Sadler covered that rubbish & I actually did say Utd needed a replacement for Evra.

Question for you, who do youngster higher, Stones or Luiz ?
you're trying really hard here , this thread is about john Stones vs Hummels and the team that ran away with the title 3 months ago.
You've made several posts on this thread and have tried on several occasions to change the topic away from Stones vs Hummels.
So I ask are you still LOLing at the fact that I said Stones was better than Hummels?
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I don't understand how anyone could defend Moyes. I saw the match where he had United cross the ball 82 times against the bottom club Fulham with my mate who's a United fan, it was a joke. If I had been at Old Trafford I would've walked out at halftime. Then I think they played us at the Emirates, a few days after we had just been smashed by Liverpool and rather than get at us, Moyes had them parking the bus and playing some of the safest, slowest football I've seen from a Utd team. The last game I watched of them under Moyes was the 0-3 loss they had to City. There was absolutely nothing to his team. No tactical cohesion, no defensive solidity, no creativity, nothing. At that point the manager has to take the blame, even if United had an aging squad there's no excuse for what Moyes had them doing.

Secondly, during the run United had set season where they beat Spurs, Liverpool, and City, the players LvG used were all there the previous season, except Blind and Herrera. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think Blind and Herrera are the sole reason for transforming a 7th place side that loses 0-3 to one that comprehensively wins 4-2. You have to give credit to LvG there.
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Sep 14 2015, 06:17 AM
I don't understand how anyone could defend Moyes. I saw the match where he had United cross the ball 82 times against the bottom club Fulham with my mate who's a United fan, it was a joke. If I had been at Old Trafford I would've walked out at halftime. Then I think they played us at the Emirates, a few days after we had just been smashed by Liverpool and rather than get at us, Moyes had them parking the bus and playing some of the safest, slowest football I've seen from a Utd team. The last game I watched of them under Moyes was the 0-3 loss they had to City. There was absolutely nothing to his team. No tactical cohesion, no defensive solidity, no creativity, nothing. At that point the manager has to take the blame, even if United had an aging squad there's no excuse for what Moyes had them doing.

Secondly, during the run United had set season where they beat Spurs, Liverpool, and City, the players LvG used were all there the previous season, except Blind and Herrera. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think Blind and Herrera are the sole reason for transforming a 7th place side that loses 0-3 to one that comprehensively wins 4-2. You have to give credit to LvG there.
except that Liverpool and City were A FAR worse team than they were the previous here, if LVG had played the Liverpool team that had suarez plus fit sturridge the previous year, they'll get smashed 3-0. And LVG ain't beating the title winning man city team in a month of sundays. The man city team was shocking last season!!
Now the point I've been making(unlike Santry) is that LVG is just as bad as Moyes, I'm not saying either of the two is any good...
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Sep 14 2015, 07:24 AM
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Sep 14 2015, 06:17 AM
I don't understand how anyone could defend Moyes. I saw the match where he had United cross the ball 82 times against the bottom club Fulham with my mate who's a United fan, it was a joke. If I had been at Old Trafford I would've walked out at halftime. Then I think they played us at the Emirates, a few days after we had just been smashed by Liverpool and rather than get at us, Moyes had them parking the bus and playing some of the safest, slowest football I've seen from a Utd team. The last game I watched of them under Moyes was the 0-3 loss they had to City. There was absolutely nothing to his team. No tactical cohesion, no defensive solidity, no creativity, nothing. At that point the manager has to take the blame, even if United had an aging squad there's no excuse for what Moyes had them doing.

Secondly, during the run United had set season where they beat Spurs, Liverpool, and City, the players LvG used were all there the previous season, except Blind and Herrera. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think Blind and Herrera are the sole reason for transforming a 7th place side that loses 0-3 to one that comprehensively wins 4-2. You have to give credit to LvG there.
except that Liverpool and City were A FAR worse team than they were the previous here, if LVG had played the Liverpool team that had suarez plus fit sturridge the previous year, they'll get smashed 3-0. And LVG ain't beating the title winning man city team in a month of sundays. The man city team was shocking last season!!
Now the point I've been making(unlike Santry) is that LVG is just as bad as Moyes, I'm not saying either of the two is any good...
I didnt realizr saurez and sturridge were so good defensively
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Sep 14 2015, 07:58 AM
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Sep 14 2015, 07:24 AM
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Sep 14 2015, 06:17 AM
I don't understand how anyone could defend Moyes. I saw the match where he had United cross the ball 82 times against the bottom club Fulham with my mate who's a United fan, it was a joke. If I had been at Old Trafford I would've walked out at halftime. Then I think they played us at the Emirates, a few days after we had just been smashed by Liverpool and rather than get at us, Moyes had them parking the bus and playing some of the safest, slowest football I've seen from a Utd team. The last game I watched of them under Moyes was the 0-3 loss they had to City. There was absolutely nothing to his team. No tactical cohesion, no defensive solidity, no creativity, nothing. At that point the manager has to take the blame, even if United had an aging squad there's no excuse for what Moyes had them doing.

Secondly, during the run United had set season where they beat Spurs, Liverpool, and City, the players LvG used were all there the previous season, except Blind and Herrera. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think Blind and Herrera are the sole reason for transforming a 7th place side that loses 0-3 to one that comprehensively wins 4-2. You have to give credit to LvG there.
except that Liverpool and City were A FAR worse team than they were the previous here, if LVG had played the Liverpool team that had suarez plus fit sturridge the previous year, they'll get smashed 3-0. And LVG ain't beating the title winning man city team in a month of sundays. The man city team was shocking last season!!
Now the point I've been making(unlike Santry) is that LVG is just as bad as Moyes, I'm not saying either of the two is any good...
I didnt realizr saurez and sturridge were so good defensively
Because when Suarez left and Sturbridge was injured for life, it was their defence which got worse and not their aattack, give your head a shake...
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Sep 13 2015, 11:44 PM
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Sep 13 2015, 04:27 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 09:41 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 09:26 PM
Just like Pizzy, to indignantly call people out on the basis of one result but somehow miss the opportunity to acknowledge that one of his bĂȘte noirs [Martinez] is playing a blinder.

John Stones is one of the most exciting prospects I have seen. How does a centre half do a cruyff turn?

Huh???
I'm struggling to understand that one too lol, perhaps Santry can speak in a language that we all understand :D
Sometimes he just tried way to hard to be witty. Just say what you fucking mean Santry. We get it. You're smarter than everyone here. Not stop being such a fucking idiot and speak in English lol
I think he just means that Stones tried a cruyff turn during a match.
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Sep 14 2015, 07:24 AM
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Sep 14 2015, 06:17 AM
I don't understand how anyone could defend Moyes. I saw the match where he had United cross the ball 82 times against the bottom club Fulham with my mate who's a United fan, it was a joke. If I had been at Old Trafford I would've walked out at halftime. Then I think they played us at the Emirates, a few days after we had just been smashed by Liverpool and rather than get at us, Moyes had them parking the bus and playing some of the safest, slowest football I've seen from a Utd team. The last game I watched of them under Moyes was the 0-3 loss they had to City. There was absolutely nothing to his team. No tactical cohesion, no defensive solidity, no creativity, nothing. At that point the manager has to take the blame, even if United had an aging squad there's no excuse for what Moyes had them doing.

Secondly, during the run United had set season where they beat Spurs, Liverpool, and City, the players LvG used were all there the previous season, except Blind and Herrera. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think Blind and Herrera are the sole reason for transforming a 7th place side that loses 0-3 to one that comprehensively wins 4-2. You have to give credit to LvG there.
except that Liverpool and City were A FAR worse team than they were the previous here, if LVG had played the Liverpool team that had suarez plus fit sturridge the previous year, they'll get smashed 3-0. And LVG ain't beating the title winning man city team in a month of sundays. The man city team was shocking last season!!
Now the point I've been making(unlike Santry) is that LVG is just as bad as Moyes, I'm not saying either of the two is any good...
Utd did beat that title winning City team, 4=1 last season . As you pointed out yourself, they kept the same team, & have played with the same team this year as well, apart from signing that overrated kid who is no better than Gnabry or Welbeck
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Sep 14 2015, 01:25 PM
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Sep 14 2015, 07:58 AM
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Sep 14 2015, 07:24 AM
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Sep 14 2015, 06:17 AM
I don't understand how anyone could defend Moyes. I saw the match where he had United cross the ball 82 times against the bottom club Fulham with my mate who's a United fan, it was a joke. If I had been at Old Trafford I would've walked out at halftime. Then I think they played us at the Emirates, a few days after we had just been smashed by Liverpool and rather than get at us, Moyes had them parking the bus and playing some of the safest, slowest football I've seen from a Utd team. The last game I watched of them under Moyes was the 0-3 loss they had to City. There was absolutely nothing to his team. No tactical cohesion, no defensive solidity, no creativity, nothing. At that point the manager has to take the blame, even if United had an aging squad there's no excuse for what Moyes had them doing.

Secondly, during the run United had set season where they beat Spurs, Liverpool, and City, the players LvG used were all there the previous season, except Blind and Herrera. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think Blind and Herrera are the sole reason for transforming a 7th place side that loses 0-3 to one that comprehensively wins 4-2. You have to give credit to LvG there.
except that Liverpool and City were A FAR worse team than they were the previous here, if LVG had played the Liverpool team that had suarez plus fit sturridge the previous year, they'll get smashed 3-0. And LVG ain't beating the title winning man city team in a month of sundays. The man city team was shocking last season!!
Now the point I've been making(unlike Santry) is that LVG is just as bad as Moyes, I'm not saying either of the two is any good...
I didnt realizr saurez and sturridge were so good defensively
Because when Suarez left and Sturbridge was injured for life, it was their defence which got worse and not their aattack, give your head a shake...
But you said that if those two were there it would have been 3-0. Considering we won 4-2 (I tihnk) then that would mean that with Suarez and Sturridge 4 goals would have been wiped out, meaning that they help the defense. I'm shaking my head really hard but I still don't get it. How would it have been 3-0 instead of 4-2 if those two were there???
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