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East German Gooner

I'm really scratching my head on the recent poor results considering how deep our squad depth is and yes rotation is key for success when you have multiple competitions to participate. Look at our squad A and B and I'm leaving Wilshere out the 2 squads:

Team A: Cech Hector BFG Kos Nacho Coq Rambo Ox Ozil Alexis Theo
Team B: Ospina Debuchy Chambers Gabriel Gibbs Flamster Arteta Welbeck Penguin Campbell Giroud
Arguably Team B is good enough to beat 60% of the EPL team and on paper teams like Zagreb and Galatasaray. Arguably Wenger does have the luxury of rotating up to 7 players from match to match.
Is it imbalance? Is it complacency? Is it arrogance? I'm just at a loss.....
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Team B alone btw cost 93 million quids to put together.
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Team B is very decent. We have a good squad after a long time and no euro vultures are after our players.
And still we are struggling and are inconsistent.

We will have a run of wins against sh!te teams and again the manager will be called a God by the Wenger fanboys.

Unless we see changes, we will stay irrelevant or get mocked at - both at home and in Europe.
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Sep 30 2015, 11:25 PM
Team B is very decent. We have a good squad after a long time and no euro vultures are after our players.
And still we are struggling and are inconsistent.

We will have a run of wins against sh!te teams and again the manager will be called a God by the Wenger fanboys.

Unless we see changes, we will stay irrelevant or get mocked at - both at home and in Europe.
Yes, likely the same "shite teams" that have beaten or will have beaten other top sides in one of the most balanced leagues in Europe.

Thanks for the keen insight.
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East German Gooner
Sep 30 2015, 05:50 PM
I'm really scratching my head on the recent poor results considering how deep our squad depth is and yes rotation is key for success when you have multiple competitions to participate. Look at our squad A and B and I'm leaving Wilshere out the 2 squads:

Team A: Cech Hector BFG Kos Nacho Coq Rambo Ox Ozil Alexis Theo
Team B: Ospina Debuchy Chambers Gabriel Gibbs Flamster Arteta Welbeck Penguin Campbell Giroud
Arguably Team B is good enough to beat 60% of the EPL team and on paper teams like Zagreb and Galatasaray. Arguably Wenger does have the luxury of rotating up to 7 players from match to match.
Is it imbalance? Is it complacency? Is it arrogance? I'm just at a loss.....
You don't even find room for Wilshire in Team B ?

I get your point though. I do feel Arsenal have the best depth in quality of all the teams if not the best 1st eleven .
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Sep 30 2015, 05:50 PM
I'm really scratching my head on the recent poor results considering how deep our squad depth is and yes rotation is key for success when you have multiple competitions to participate. Look at our squad A and B and I'm leaving Wilshere out the 2 squads:

Team A: Cech Hector BFG Kos Nacho Coq Rambo Ox Ozil Alexis Theo
Team B: Ospina Debuchy Chambers Gabriel Gibbs Flamster Arteta Welbeck Penguin Campbell Giroud
Arguably Team B is good enough to beat 60% of the EPL team and on paper teams like Zagreb and Galatasaray. Arguably Wenger does have the luxury of rotating up to 7 players from match to match.
Is it imbalance? Is it complacency? Is it arrogance? I'm just at a loss.....
Well, at least it isn't lack of ambition, right? You put together a roster with this sort of strength in order to win things. The fact we've somehow managed to do no better so far can be blamed on many things but not - based on this assembly of talent - on the cheerful willingness to settle for fourth that some would accuse us of.

While I will continue to decry the club's failure to beef up the DM position, the fact is we're not operating as we were several years ago.

Now, what that implies about whether or not we have the right manager...
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Ok let's get this absolutely straight, we only added Cech this summer, yet last year BEFORE man city shopping spree this summer, I said Arsenal had the best SQUAD in the league, hence Wenger is underachieving , apparently I was talking nonsense.

So now when we basically did nothing in the transfer window, people are all of a sudden now just seeing we have the best squad in the country and we should be winning the league, KMT.
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dsch15
Oct 1 2015, 10:55 AM
East German Gooner
Sep 30 2015, 05:50 PM
I'm really scratching my head on the recent poor results considering how deep our squad depth is and yes rotation is key for success when you have multiple competitions to participate. Look at our squad A and B and I'm leaving Wilshere out the 2 squads:

Team A: Cech Hector BFG Kos Nacho Coq Rambo Ox Ozil Alexis Theo
Team B: Ospina Debuchy Chambers Gabriel Gibbs Flamster Arteta Welbeck Penguin Campbell Giroud
Arguably Team B is good enough to beat 60% of the EPL team and on paper teams like Zagreb and Galatasaray. Arguably Wenger does have the luxury of rotating up to 7 players from match to match.
Is it imbalance? Is it complacency? Is it arrogance? I'm just at a loss.....
Well, at least it isn't lack of ambition, right? You put together a roster with this sort of strength in order to win things. The fact we've somehow managed to do no better so far can be blamed on many things but not - based on this assembly of talent - on the cheerful willingness to settle for fourth that some would accuse us of.

While I will continue to decry the club's failure to beef up the DM position, the fact is we're not operating as we were several years ago.

Now, what that implies about whether or not we have the right manager...
Just say the word, you and I know Wenger is underachieving and only idiots will still be talking about "no money to compete" blah blah blah, minimum Wenger should be achieving with this squad is winning the league title and getting at least to the semis of the champions league.

We may not have the best starting 11, and some players in our starting 11 won't make it into the Man utd, Man city,Chelsea or even suprisingly the Liverpool team (only CF position though), but we no doubt have the best squad. starting 11 don't win you league titles , a squad does....
Edited by dream_team, Oct 1 2015, 11:05 AM.
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Oct 1 2015, 11:01 AM
Ok let's get this absolutely straight, we only added Cech this summer, yet last year BEFORE man city shopping spree this summer, I said Arsenal had the best SQUAD in the league, hence Wenger is underachieving , apparently I was talking nonsense.

So now when we basically did nothing in the transfer window, people are all of a sudden now just seeing we have the best squad in the country and we should be winning the league, KMT.
Where did that conclusion come from?
Edited by dsch15, Oct 1 2015, 11:06 AM.
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Oct 1 2015, 11:04 AM
dsch15
Oct 1 2015, 10:55 AM
East German Gooner
Sep 30 2015, 05:50 PM
I'm really scratching my head on the recent poor results considering how deep our squad depth is and yes rotation is key for success when you have multiple competitions to participate. Look at our squad A and B and I'm leaving Wilshere out the 2 squads:

Team A: Cech Hector BFG Kos Nacho Coq Rambo Ox Ozil Alexis Theo
Team B: Ospina Debuchy Chambers Gabriel Gibbs Flamster Arteta Welbeck Penguin Campbell Giroud
Arguably Team B is good enough to beat 60% of the EPL team and on paper teams like Zagreb and Galatasaray. Arguably Wenger does have the luxury of rotating up to 7 players from match to match.
Is it imbalance? Is it complacency? Is it arrogance? I'm just at a loss.....
Well, at least it isn't lack of ambition, right? You put together a roster with this sort of strength in order to win things. The fact we've somehow managed to do no better so far can be blamed on many things but not - based on this assembly of talent - on the cheerful willingness to settle for fourth that some would accuse us of.

While I will continue to decry the club's failure to beef up the DM position, the fact is we're not operating as we were several years ago.

Now, what that implies about whether or not we have the right manager...
Just say the word, you and I know Wenger is underachieving and only idiots will still be talking about "no money to compete" blah blah blah, minimum Wenger should be achieving with this squad is winning the league title and getting at least to the semis of the champions league.

We may not have the best starting 11, and some players in our starting 11 won't make it into the Man utd, Man city,Chelsea or even suprisingly the Liverpool team (only CF position though), but we no doubt have the best squad. starting 11 don't win you league titles , a squad does....
Another straw man mercilessly ripped to shreds. Who is saying we now have no money?

And it's a combination of squad strength, starting eleven, injuries, morale and management that produces titles. The simplistic reduction you're trying to impose here doesn't wash.
Edited by dsch15, Oct 1 2015, 11:09 AM.
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