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Oct 13 2015, 02:11 PM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
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Oct 14 2015, 03:58 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
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Oct 14 2015, 04:43 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread? tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ?
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Oct 14 2015, 04:47 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ? Hope you're not suffering from loss of memory? I said better fit to the team...
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Oct 14 2015, 04:49 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ?
Hope you're not suffering from loss of memory? I said better fit to the team... So explain the difference in styles & the tell me why a far superior footballer in every sense is a poorer option than the lesser player . tell me what Ox brings to the table that Alexis doesn't
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Oct 14 2015, 06:28 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ?
Hope you're not suffering from loss of memory? I said better fit to the team...
So explain the difference in styles & the tell me why a far superior footballer in every sense is a poorer option than the lesser player . tell me what Ox brings to the table that Alexis doesn't Loses the ball less, releases the ball on time more than Alexis, more direct, more influential in big games than Alexis, doesn't roll on the floor like he's been shot like Alexis etc. Notice I didn't say Ox doesn't lose the ball or doesn't release the ball at the wrong time, he just does this less than the "3rd best player in the world"....
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Ox more direct than Sanchez ? More influential in big games ? Maybe the FA cup final 2014/2015 is a small game after all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZ6RoKkPLE
So against Man United, it's a small game too. Since it's so easy to score 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRAkuyYT-Kc
Play keep ball and score no goals and draw or lose the game, the manager and team gets slaughtered. Be a little more adventurous and lose the ball but score goals and the team wins, the player is criticized.
Maybe without Alexis's horror show in the early part of the 2014/2015 season and we play the Ox as CF or WF instead, we would have been Champions !
What is Wenger thinking in the 2014/2015 FA up final . Keeping the Ox till the 90min. He should unleash him from the 1st min and we win the match 10 - 0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuF1Fi5gUtk
Alexis what a bloody waste of money. Not sure whose head needs a shake.
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Oct 14 2015, 08:53 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mg
A horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24.
Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point.
Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball.
And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit.
This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts !
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck.
"And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals
The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score??
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