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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ?
Hope you're not suffering from loss of memory? I said better fit to the team...
So explain the difference in styles & the tell me why a far superior footballer in every sense is a poorer option than the lesser player . tell me what Ox brings to the table that Alexis doesn't
Loses the ball less, releases the ball on time more than Alexis, more direct, more influential in big games than Alexis, doesn't roll on the floor like he's been shot like Alexis etc. Notice I didn't say Ox doesn't lose the ball or doesn't release the ball at the wrong time, he just does this less than the "3rd best player in the world".... What you have done here is accept that they play similar styles & therefore your post confirms what you have denied, that you think Ox is better than Alexis. You have exposed yourself as a 1st class idiot Pizzy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck. "And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score?? But his goals per gam ratio is worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot, whats Wenger supposed to do ? Drop the the player with more than double the goals per game ratio for him ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck. "And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score??
But his goals per gam ratio is worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot, whats Wenger supposed to do ? Drop the the player with more than double the goals per game ratio for him ? When stats suits him, he uses goals only as a gauge for a striker. When stats doesn't suit him, he takes out the goals and use a better fit (midfielder) to bash the team.
We all know who is that.
And Wenger should always give a spot to one who blows hot and cold, and his defensive lapses resulted in crucial goals conceded. At Olympiacos and at Monaco. The own goal at Zagreb and the diving save at Chelski. Wenger should field AOC and lose more ground so that the someone can have more ammunition for the shit he spews. Just brilliant.
AOC is still not really ready for the big time consistently. And someone can actually argue that he is not given chances ??? AOC ? Really ? Someone got to shake whatever shit out of his head. If he says Campbell, maybe. If he says Park Chu Yong , I can't help but agree.AOC ??? Not given chances ???
AOC > Sanchez.
Maybe we should reopen the debate on
Salmon Kalou > RVP
Yeah. Maybe Kalou wins , he is less of a cunt than RVP.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck. "And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score??
But his goals per gam ratio is worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot, whats Wenger supposed to do ? Drop the the player with more than double the goals per game ratio for him ? "worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot",....you left out the part that Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester utd were queuing for his signature, LMAO they must be kicking their self for missing out on a top class special player LOL. Guardiola must have wished he signed sterling instead of Douglas costa, Benitez must have wished he signed Sterling to bench Bale, Rodriguez or Benzema! Ox has never gotten a fair chance from day 1, and that has nothing to do with Alexis or his goals to game ratio. I believe Ramsey went an Entire season scoring only 3 goals, and having bad game after bad game, yet he was one of the first name on his team sheet. Wenger is bias towards certain players, Arsenal fans know this idiots like you who think there's NO WAY a team who "ran away with the title" last season can be struggling certainly won't know this. And lastly it's more difficult to break into the Arsenal team especially for an attcking player than Liverpool, only a stupid person will say otherwise.
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ?
Hope you're not suffering from loss of memory? I said better fit to the team...
So explain the difference in styles & the tell me why a far superior footballer in every sense is a poorer option than the lesser player . tell me what Ox brings to the table that Alexis doesn't
Loses the ball less, releases the ball on time more than Alexis, more direct, more influential in big games than Alexis, doesn't roll on the floor like he's been shot like Alexis etc. Notice I didn't say Ox doesn't lose the ball or doesn't release the ball at the wrong time, he just does this less than the "3rd best player in the world"....
What you have done here is accept that they play similar styles & therefore your post confirms what you have denied, that you think Ox is better than Alexis. You have exposed yourself as a 1st class idiot Pizzy are you that stupid? "similar style" is subjective, one could say Willian and Cuadrado have similar styles,but the way cuadrado perform in the EPL would suggest otherwise, and going by cuadrado reputation from Italy you certainly can't say Willian is a better player.
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Yeah, it's hard to understand why van Persie and Welbeck were sold. Zaha, I don't know. Not sure he had the quality to make a difference right now. Yanuzaj, though, seems to have fallen out of favor pretty fast.
The new signings, they look like they will come good but they are not finished articles.
If I were a United fan I would be worried because so far even Liverpool and Southampton have created more chances per game than you. And if Chelsea can get back to their best then top 4 could become a real danger.
But we'll see. The season is still very young and I think young players like Depay can improve very quickly. If you manage to stay solid at the back then the team probably has enough goals to have a good league season. It will take time even for LvG to create a good team. Aim for top 3 this season and then with the right additions you can go for the title next season.
There's the January window, too. And I'm hoping Arsenal can also make a signing or two. Zaha has the talent, he just needed game time & faith just like so many young players. Did you see the way he destroyed WBA last game? A team who had barely conceded a goal away from home.Maybe Depay is trying too hard but with another winger like Zaha on the other flank Utd would so much better balanced & have the speed to trouble defences a lot more than they are doing. Januzaj got a load more opportunities than Zaha & he is on loan so can be brought back I have been critical of the lack of opportunities created since last season. I argued this with Sadler who cited Carricks injury for the poor run of results toward the end of the season & I argued back then that creating & scoring was the problem, & Carrick really didn't add much to either of those areas I am not sure if Rooneys poor form is down to the system, because RVP, Falcao & every other striker seems to struggle playing this way. Martial has bucked that trend so far, but I am not ready to go rating him as the new Henry or the best young player since Messi based on 5 or so games, thats the territory of fools. Lets wait until he has played at least a full season before giving those kind of accolades
I can understand making a case for someone like Hernandez or even Welbeck, but Zaha??? how exactly do you rate players, is it as long as you show "energy" and "buzz" you're good enough. Are you really judging Zaha because he apparently destroyed a team who will finish 12th at best. The Zaha that I know lacks composure, he's a poor crosser, makes too many bad decisions, and has little end product. Maybe he should have been loaned not sold YET to see if he can't improve but so far selling (albeit at a really cheap price) looks like the right decision he doesn't look like a player for a team with aspiration to win league titles. He's never gonna reach the level of a Ryan Giggs, Beckham, Overmas, Pires, Robben, Ljunberg, Hazard etc
What's the point trying to explain anything to a guy who steadfastly refuses to accept what a great player Alexis is
or a guy who thinks Sterling is the best thing since slice bread?
tell you what you lying little fuckwit, you post me one quote where I say Sterling is the best thing since sliced bread . You still standing by your AOC > Alexis lunacy ?
Hope you're not suffering from loss of memory? I said better fit to the team...
So explain the difference in styles & the tell me why a far superior footballer in every sense is a poorer option than the lesser player . tell me what Ox brings to the table that Alexis doesn't
Loses the ball less, releases the ball on time more than Alexis, more direct, more influential in big games than Alexis, doesn't roll on the floor like he's been shot like Alexis etc. Notice I didn't say Ox doesn't lose the ball or doesn't release the ball at the wrong time, he just does this less than the "3rd best player in the world"....
What you have done here is accept that they play similar styles & therefore your post confirms what you have denied, that you think Ox is better than Alexis. You have exposed yourself as a 1st class idiot Pizzy
are you that stupid? "similar style" is subjective, one could say Willian and Cuadrado have similar styles,but the way cuadrado perform in the EPL would suggest otherwise, and going by cuadrado reputation from Italy you certainly can't say Willian is a better player. ? WTF
Cuadrado failed, simple as that, it has nothing to do with whether he plays similar to Willian , he just didn't make it. again, you explain the differences in playing styles . All you did was say Alexis isn't as good as Ox
Only one stupid prick here & I would say it's the one who thinks AOC is better for Arsenal than Alexis Sanchez
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck. "And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score??
But his goals per gam ratio is worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot, whats Wenger supposed to do ? Drop the the player with more than double the goals per game ratio for him ? "worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot",....you left out the part that Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester utd were queuing for his signature, LMAO they must be kicking their self for missing out on a top class special player LOL. Guardiola must have wished he signed sterling instead of Douglas costa, Benitez must have wished he signed Sterling to bench Bale, Rodriguez or Benzema! Ox has never gotten a fair chance from day 1, and that has nothing to do with Alexis or his goals to game ratio. I believe Ramsey went an Entire season scoring only 3 goals, and having bad game after bad game, yet he was one of the first name on his team sheet. Wenger is bias towards certain players, Arsenal fans know this idiots like you who think there's NO WAY a team who "ran away with the title" last season can be struggling certainly won't know this. And lastly it's more difficult to break into the Arsenal team especially for an attcking player than Liverpool, only a stupid person will say otherwise. Of course it's more difficult to get into a team which has a World class player ahead of you dumbarse
I stand by my original post on here & every bit of garbage you have spewed out since verifies it, that you were every bit as gutted as I was about the way Alexis dismantled Utd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck. "And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score??
But his goals per gam ratio is worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot, whats Wenger supposed to do ? Drop the the player with more than double the goals per game ratio for him ? "worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot",....you left out the part that Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester utd were queuing for his signature, LMAO they must be kicking their self for missing out on a top class special player LOL. Guardiola must have wished he signed sterling instead of Douglas costa, Benitez must have wished he signed Sterling to bench Bale, Rodriguez or Benzema! Ox has never gotten a fair chance from day 1, and that has nothing to do with Alexis or his goals to game ratio. I believe Ramsey went an Entire season scoring only 3 goals, and having bad game after bad game, yet he was one of the first name on his team sheet. Wenger is bias towards certain players, Arsenal fans know this idiots like you who think there's NO WAY a team who "ran away with the title" last season can be struggling certainly won't know this. And lastly it's more difficult to break into the Arsenal team especially for an attcking player than Liverpool, only a stupid person will say otherwise.
Of course it's more difficult to get into a team which has a World class player ahead of you dumbarse I stand by my original post on here & every bit of garbage you have spewed out since verifies it, that you were every bit as gutted as I was about the way Alexis dismantled Utd Lol he's acting like Alexis is the one keeping Ox out of the team , give your head a shake you moron, he's never been given a fair chance from day 1, and if you open your eyes you'll actually see Ramsey is the one keeping him out of the team, of course unless Ramsey is the guy you were referring to as World class...
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- Oct 14 2015, 08:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZkwT586mgA horrible first year at Arsenal. Should have hit 48 goals instead of 24. Intersting by the Pizzmeister. He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud. He takes the goal stats , just to prove his point. Now we got a striker who not only score goals ,runs himself to the ground and became our top scorer in his first year. Then he decides to take away goals as a gauge of a striker. And added things such being a little careless on the ball. And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals and cannot even nail a place down in the first 11 is a better fit. This really blows the mind. E= mc3 ! Einstein eat his shorts ! "He lauds a striker only scores goals and does nothing else , to beat up Welback and Giroud" Who's that BTW and if I were you I won't be defending 8 goal a season Thierry Welbeck. "And suddenly a midfielder who is struggling for goals The last time I check you have to be on the field to score goals, the kid doesn't get given a fair chance like the others by Wenger so how can he score??
But his goals per gam ratio is worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot, whats Wenger supposed to do ? Drop the the player with more than double the goals per game ratio for him ? "worse than the most over rated player around who cant even shoot",....you left out the part that Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester utd were queuing for his signature, LMAO they must be kicking their self for missing out on a top class special player LOL. Guardiola must have wished he signed sterling instead of Douglas costa, Benitez must have wished he signed Sterling to bench Bale, Rodriguez or Benzema! Ox has never gotten a fair chance from day 1, and that has nothing to do with Alexis or his goals to game ratio. I believe Ramsey went an Entire season scoring only 3 goals, and having bad game after bad game, yet he was one of the first name on his team sheet. Wenger is bias towards certain players, Arsenal fans know this idiots like you who think there's NO WAY a team who "ran away with the title" last season can be struggling certainly won't know this. And lastly it's more difficult to break into the Arsenal team especially for an attcking player than Liverpool, only a stupid person will say otherwise.
Of course it's more difficult to get into a team which has a World class player ahead of you dumbarse I stand by my original post on here & every bit of garbage you have spewed out since verifies it, that you were every bit as gutted as I was about the way Alexis dismantled Utd
Lol he's acting like Alexis is the one keeping Ox out of the team , give your head a shake you moron, he's never been given a fair chance from day 1, and if you open your eyes you'll actually see Ramsey is the one keeping him out of the team, of course unless Ramsey is the guy you were referring to as World class... You are literally the only person in the world who would try to make this argument.
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