| Guardiola replacing Wenger?; Matter of time says - ESPN | |
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| KamyFC | Oct 20 2015, 09:12 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-premier-league/23/blog/post/2670593/pep-guardiola-next-arsenal-boss-seems-matter-of-time "The pots of money available and relative lack of interference make the Arsenal job more attractive than most. The club's location near the heart of one of the world's great cities is a huge advantage, too." But Guardiola gets 'bored' after 4 years in 1 club. I dont think Wenger would like to handover our club to such an individual. So not happening, IMO. |
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| tallsmile28 | Oct 20 2015, 09:22 AM Post #2 |
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Never say never. There would be a lot of competition for his services in the EPL. |
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| supercollider7 | Oct 20 2015, 11:26 AM Post #3 |
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It could happen but Guardiola could end up at City before that. IT will be interesting to see which route we take with Wenger's successor. He's said he wants to play no part in picking the next guy but I don't know if anyone else in the Arsenal hierarchy is really capable of making that decision. Maybe Gazidis. Certainly not Sir Chips. I think it's very possible that we go with an internal solution. Amy Lawrence on the guardian podcast said that her personal theory (based on nothing) is that the club will want Thierry Henry to take over. He is currently getting his coaching badges with the U-19s. But he seems years away from being ready. And if his punditry is anything to go by he doesn't really have any kind special footballing insight. I would like that to happen but I was thinking more that Steve Bould will take over from Wenger when/if he is ready. But it does seem like Bould may not be the manager type. But yeah, I would prefer the internal route if we have someone capable. Also, that article is a load of crap. pure filler. Edited by supercollider7, Oct 20 2015, 11:28 AM.
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| rw_mlite2 | Oct 22 2015, 09:01 AM Post #4 |
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Still don't want that sore loser here. Pass, pass, pass, pass...pass some more. We already dealt with a version of that boring crap a few years ago... |
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| KamyFC | Oct 23 2015, 11:04 PM Post #5 |
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I'm a big fan of Tiki-Taka. That uber possesion game, the perfect weighed passes, the off the ball running, the relentless pressing to win the ball back. And the philosophy of domination by keeping the ball. What Pep, created is something unique apparently not seen in the history of the game. Many people find it boring but i find it fascinating. An if Pep comes to Arsenal, it would be a perfect match as we are the best passing team in England. Just think a bout this. EPL teams have no clue how to play against the tiki-taka. All the hammerings Barcelona and Bayern have given us, Manchester United (2 CL finals), Chel$kie over the years, show the same thing. EPL teams just get behind the ball and defend with 11 men and hope to run on the break trying to clutch at straws. In La Liga there have been many teams who have countered Barca's Tiki-Taka with their own tactical systems like Beilsa's Bilbao who played their own brand of intense passing and man marking system. Some of the Barca-Bilbao games were intense tactical affairs. Even on Tuesday, we had to be organzied for the entire 90 minutes and we were, knowing at any lapse in concentration will result in the Bayern machine cutting us open. A team can get an occasional result like that. But 8 in 10 games, you will loose with such tactics. Just imagine, if Pep gets us to play like that. We will be winning the league every year. Ofcourse its just theoretical. My only problem is Pep that he will leave us after 2-3 years. That is not good enuf. We have had an incredible legacy of continuity with Arsene Wenger and there is no point if we know Pep will leave soon. Maybe he could train someone and leave. I donno. Ah darn. He will go to Man City. I can just dream. |
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| billabog5 | Oct 24 2015, 03:12 AM Post #6 |
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I think Klopp led the way in this, Pep just had better players to keep the ball. I still don't think he has earned the plaudits he gets, in real terms he has taken Bayern backwards. He took over a team that under Heynckes dominated Germany AND Europe, now they only dominate Germany. He was lucky to take over at Barca & have the crop of players he had. The Messi's, Inista's & Xavis of this World don't come along too often & when you can supplement those with whoever you want to buy then the chances are you will be successful . I would love to see him go to a team like Spurs or Liverpool & see if he can take them to the next step . I think Mourinho & Klopp could do that. |
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| supercollider7 | Oct 24 2015, 10:53 PM Post #7 |
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Not sure why you think Mourinho could do that and not Guardiola. Mourinho out of the big managers is probably the least capable of building up a club. His whole mantra is results. That's all he does. One-off trophies are great but that's not taking the club to the next step. At Chelsea, they won titles but they were "boring boring." At Real, he didn't want to create anything good, he just wanted to try to win clasicos by kicking Barcelona off the park. At Inter the team was done by the time he left. Guardiola, like Klopp, like Wenger, has a vision of what the best way to play is and develops his teams in that way. And these guys develop their players and look for the long term instead of just trying to win from the off. Although Mourinho did leave a legacy in England. It was all about playing 4-5-1 and playing defensively, but it was something. He's had his impact on football but not really at one club. Mourinho would never take the liverpool job because it would be beneath him. In 2004, if he was Arsenal manager, he would have walked away from Arsenal after publicly deriding the owners for cutting off transfer funds. This is the man who had no qualms about publicly abusing his team doctor for simply doing her job. Klopp, he is perfect for the Liverpool job and the Liverpool job is perfect for him. He will get time to instill his style of play and build up a team. His record suggests he will stay for a while and see out his vision like he did with Mainz and Dortmund. Much of Guardiola's success is obviously owed to the incredible players he was in charge of. But he took that group of players to a completely different level. Barca were a very good team under Rijkaard. Under Guardiola they were completely dominant. And the national team copied his blueprint to then go on and win the world cup. I mean, there's more to Barca and Bayern's success than just good players. There's a clear Guardiola influence. And he wouldn't take the Liverpool job either but under him you could see Liverpool playing the incisive possession football that Brendan Rodgers pretended they did. |
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| billabog5 | Oct 24 2015, 11:39 PM Post #8 |
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Mourinho does have a track record of being successful with a minuscule budget at Porto, until Pep manages that he will always have doubters, me among them. Pep changed Bayerns style for the worse, he didn't adapt to what he had, he tries to adapt the p,ayers to him, that is also a secret of being a top coach. Bayern are nowhere near as formidable as they were under Heynckes & there have been a lot of rumblings of discontent among the Bayern supporters I never argued MoU is a good long term fix for a club, I have always said he leaves ruins behind. My point was simple, I would back MoU to do a better job at Liverpool or Spurs than I would Pep simply because I think !ous pragmatic approach & his willingness to adopt. Different tactics & styles for different games would be a better percentage than Peps possession based game which requires all the players to be very technically gifted . I am not sure teams like Spurs & Pool are good enough to play that way Yes Klopp is a great fit at Pool, he sees he has a talented squad but he does have to be careful not to overburden them. i think there were times in the Bundeslaiga when Dorymund did t have to be at their best but in the Premiership there are very few games that you can get away with not giving 100% & with the high intensity style Klopp favours I do thinkPoo, will have flat periods & especially if he intends to give the Europa League a real go. |
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