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LOL in fact no, that's completely wrong! You and I both have to look hard for where Eboué was of some use. It always seemed to me that Eboué was best when he was played at fullback, but had no defending to do. Eboué was a good crosser of the ball, he could do that with more effectiveness than a simple pass to a midfielder.

Eboué always seemed to be able to get to a ball quickly and see the space in front of him and generally get well wide. He did that for the famous RVP (<SK) goal that was scored v Charlton. In that game Eboué wasn't playing especially well, but pulled that off without a hint of lacking confidence. When he played in midfield he could not adapt to the even quicker turn-around from possession to defending. Most fullbacks are half-decent midfielders. Eboué was therefore what coaches call a front-foot player - able to assess opportunities for a pass and threats to possession in a narrow 180 degree sector of the pitch which is in front of him, but when given a 360 watch his thinking, perception and execution got exposed. I started expressing concerns that he was no replacement for Lauren when he was a right back. I thought that one-dimensional players like this had died out in the 1970s. I suppose that's why I'm such a naughty boy.
Eboue was at his best when he played FB and had no defending to do? I'm not sure how to wrap my head around that statement but I'll do my best. I'll take it to mean when he was in the offensive half. Eboue did have irrational confidence going forward in his early days. He made many a threatening run when overlapping but the final result was sorely lacking. His crossing was not great at all, in fact, none of our FB's could deliver a decent cross consistently.

We bemoaned the efforts of Eboue, Sagna, and Clichy so many times on here in that aspect. You pull out this goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTSkIJQvwg as a sign of his ability to cross? You have to be kidding me, this was a wonder strike, not a great cross. Eboue makes an simple overlapping run and then he just floats one in there on a hope and a prayer. RVP then delivers a shot that only a very few could produce. Guess that famous memory isn't doing too well on this one.

As I said earlier, as strictly a defender, Eboue was average. A backup squad player in every sense of the word. Going forward in any meaningful way was not his strong suit at all.

Well, in fairness there was this one too...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK45UmKP0pA

1:40
I recall waking people up blocks away with my screaming and running around after Henry's goal went in.
One of my favorite goals of all time.
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LOL in fact no, that's completely wrong! You and I both have to look hard for where Eboué was of some use. It always seemed to me that Eboué was best when he was played at fullback, but had no defending to do. Eboué was a good crosser of the ball, he could do that with more effectiveness than a simple pass to a midfielder.

Eboué always seemed to be able to get to a ball quickly and see the space in front of him and generally get well wide. He did that for the famous RVP (<SK) goal that was scored v Charlton. In that game Eboué wasn't playing especially well, but pulled that off without a hint of lacking confidence. When he played in midfield he could not adapt to the even quicker turn-around from possession to defending. Most fullbacks are half-decent midfielders. Eboué was therefore what coaches call a front-foot player - able to assess opportunities for a pass and threats to possession in a narrow 180 degree sector of the pitch which is in front of him, but when given a 360 watch his thinking, perception and execution got exposed. I started expressing concerns that he was no replacement for Lauren when he was a right back. I thought that one-dimensional players like this had died out in the 1970s. I suppose that's why I'm such a naughty boy.
Eboue was at his best when he played FB and had no defending to do? I'm not sure how to wrap my head around that statement but I'll do my best. I'll take it to mean when he was in the offensive half. Eboue did have irrational confidence going forward in his early days. He made many a threatening run when overlapping but the final result was sorely lacking. His crossing was not great at all, in fact, none of our FB's could deliver a decent cross consistently.

We bemoaned the efforts of Eboue, Sagna, and Clichy so many times on here in that aspect. You pull out this goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTSkIJQvwg as a sign of his ability to cross? You have to be kidding me, this was a wonder strike, not a great cross. Eboue makes an simple overlapping run and then he just floats one in there on a hope and a prayer. RVP then delivers a shot that only a very few could produce. Guess that famous memory isn't doing too well on this one.

As I said earlier, as strictly a defender, Eboue was average. A backup squad player in every sense of the word. Going forward in any meaningful way was not his strong suit at all.

Well, in fairness there was this one too...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK45UmKP0pA

1:40
I recall waking people up blocks away with my screaming and running around after Henry's goal went in.
One of my favorite goals of all time.
Sure, but how about that equalizer?
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LOL in fact no, that's completely wrong! You and I both have to look hard for where Eboué was of some use. It always seemed to me that Eboué was best when he was played at fullback, but had no defending to do. Eboué was a good crosser of the ball, he could do that with more effectiveness than a simple pass to a midfielder.

Eboué always seemed to be able to get to a ball quickly and see the space in front of him and generally get well wide. He did that for the famous RVP (<SK) goal that was scored v Charlton. In that game Eboué wasn't playing especially well, but pulled that off without a hint of lacking confidence. When he played in midfield he could not adapt to the even quicker turn-around from possession to defending. Most fullbacks are half-decent midfielders. Eboué was therefore what coaches call a front-foot player - able to assess opportunities for a pass and threats to possession in a narrow 180 degree sector of the pitch which is in front of him, but when given a 360 watch his thinking, perception and execution got exposed. I started expressing concerns that he was no replacement for Lauren when he was a right back. I thought that one-dimensional players like this had died out in the 1970s. I suppose that's why I'm such a naughty boy.
Eboue was at his best when he played FB and had no defending to do? I'm not sure how to wrap my head around that statement but I'll do my best. I'll take it to mean when he was in the offensive half. Eboue did have irrational confidence going forward in his early days. He made many a threatening run when overlapping but the final result was sorely lacking. His crossing was not great at all, in fact, none of our FB's could deliver a decent cross consistently.

We bemoaned the efforts of Eboue, Sagna, and Clichy so many times on here in that aspect. You pull out this goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTSkIJQvwg as a sign of his ability to cross? You have to be kidding me, this was a wonder strike, not a great cross. Eboue makes an simple overlapping run and then he just floats one in there on a hope and a prayer. RVP then delivers a shot that only a very few could produce. Guess that famous memory isn't doing too well on this one.

As I said earlier, as strictly a defender, Eboue was average. A backup squad player in every sense of the word. Going forward in any meaningful way was not his strong suit at all.

Well, in fairness there was this one too...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK45UmKP0pA

1:40
I recall waking people up blocks away with my screaming and running around after Henry's goal went in.
One of my favorite goals of all time.
Sure, but how about that equalizer?
I remember RvP hurting himself on a big goal like that. The injury was not immediately apparent - showed up later and he missed a bunch of games. Was this the one?

And to give a general answer to your specific question, I've never seen an Arsenal goal I didn't love!
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LOL in fact no, that's completely wrong! You and I both have to look hard for where Eboué was of some use. It always seemed to me that Eboué was best when he was played at fullback, but had no defending to do. Eboué was a good crosser of the ball, he could do that with more effectiveness than a simple pass to a midfielder.

Eboué always seemed to be able to get to a ball quickly and see the space in front of him and generally get well wide. He did that for the famous RVP (<SK) goal that was scored v Charlton. In that game Eboué wasn't playing especially well, but pulled that off without a hint of lacking confidence. When he played in midfield he could not adapt to the even quicker turn-around from possession to defending. Most fullbacks are half-decent midfielders. Eboué was therefore what coaches call a front-foot player - able to assess opportunities for a pass and threats to possession in a narrow 180 degree sector of the pitch which is in front of him, but when given a 360 watch his thinking, perception and execution got exposed. I started expressing concerns that he was no replacement for Lauren when he was a right back. I thought that one-dimensional players like this had died out in the 1970s. I suppose that's why I'm such a naughty boy.
Eboue was at his best when he played FB and had no defending to do? I'm not sure how to wrap my head around that statement but I'll do my best. I'll take it to mean when he was in the offensive half. Eboue did have irrational confidence going forward in his early days. He made many a threatening run when overlapping but the final result was sorely lacking. His crossing was not great at all, in fact, none of our FB's could deliver a decent cross consistently.

We bemoaned the efforts of Eboue, Sagna, and Clichy so many times on here in that aspect. You pull out this goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTSkIJQvwg as a sign of his ability to cross? You have to be kidding me, this was a wonder strike, not a great cross. Eboue makes an simple overlapping run and then he just floats one in there on a hope and a prayer. RVP then delivers a shot that only a very few could produce. Guess that famous memory isn't doing too well on this one.

As I said earlier, as strictly a defender, Eboue was average. A backup squad player in every sense of the word. Going forward in any meaningful way was not his strong suit at all.

Well, in fairness there was this one too...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK45UmKP0pA

1:40
I recall waking people up blocks away with my screaming and running around after Henry's goal went in.
One of my favorite goals of all time.
Sure, but how about that equalizer?
I remember RvP hurting himself on a big goal like that. The injury was not immediately apparent - showed up later and he missed a bunch of games. Was this the one?

And to give a general answer to your specific question, I've never seen an Arsenal goal I didn't love!
To answer JODB first, I don't remember who that goal scorer was...maybe some stinky, skunk striped vermin? But the little tap on by Henry was sublime.

To DSCH, it was either that goal or the one he scored against Sheffield (or Charlton...I can't remember the difference between the relegation fodder of years past).
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LOL in fact no, that's completely wrong! You and I both have to look hard for where Eboué was of some use. It always seemed to me that Eboué was best when he was played at fullback, but had no defending to do. Eboué was a good crosser of the ball, he could do that with more effectiveness than a simple pass to a midfielder.

Eboué always seemed to be able to get to a ball quickly and see the space in front of him and generally get well wide. He did that for the famous RVP (<SK) goal that was scored v Charlton. In that game Eboué wasn't playing especially well, but pulled that off without a hint of lacking confidence. When he played in midfield he could not adapt to the even quicker turn-around from possession to defending. Most fullbacks are half-decent midfielders. Eboué was therefore what coaches call a front-foot player - able to assess opportunities for a pass and threats to possession in a narrow 180 degree sector of the pitch which is in front of him, but when given a 360 watch his thinking, perception and execution got exposed. I started expressing concerns that he was no replacement for Lauren when he was a right back. I thought that one-dimensional players like this had died out in the 1970s. I suppose that's why I'm such a naughty boy.
Eboue was at his best when he played FB and had no defending to do? I'm not sure how to wrap my head around that statement but I'll do my best. I'll take it to mean when he was in the offensive half. Eboue did have irrational confidence going forward in his early days. He made many a threatening run when overlapping but the final result was sorely lacking. His crossing was not great at all, in fact, none of our FB's could deliver a decent cross consistently.

We bemoaned the efforts of Eboue, Sagna, and Clichy so many times on here in that aspect. You pull out this goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTSkIJQvwg as a sign of his ability to cross? You have to be kidding me, this was a wonder strike, not a great cross. Eboue makes an simple overlapping run and then he just floats one in there on a hope and a prayer. RVP then delivers a shot that only a very few could produce. Guess that famous memory isn't doing too well on this one.

As I said earlier, as strictly a defender, Eboue was average. A backup squad player in every sense of the word. Going forward in any meaningful way was not his strong suit at all.

Well, in fairness there was this one too...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK45UmKP0pA

1:40
I recall waking people up blocks away with my screaming and running around after Henry's goal went in.
One of my favorite goals of all time.
Sure, but how about that equalizer?
I remember RvP hurting himself on a big goal like that. The injury was not immediately apparent - showed up later and he missed a bunch of games. Was this the one?

And to give a general answer to your specific question, I've never seen an Arsenal goal I didn't love!
To answer JODB first, I don't remember who that goal scorer was...maybe some stinky, skunk striped vermin? But the little tap on by Henry was sublime.

To DSCH, it was either that goal or the one he scored against Sheffield (or Charlton...I can't remember the difference between the relegation fodder of years past).
It was that goal, DSCH:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/6285363.stm
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LOL in fact no, that's completely wrong! You and I both have to look hard for where Eboué was of some use. It always seemed to me that Eboué was best when he was played at fullback, but had no defending to do. Eboué was a good crosser of the ball, he could do that with more effectiveness than a simple pass to a midfielder.

Eboué always seemed to be able to get to a ball quickly and see the space in front of him and generally get well wide. He did that for the famous RVP (<SK) goal that was scored v Charlton. In that game Eboué wasn't playing especially well, but pulled that off without a hint of lacking confidence. When he played in midfield he could not adapt to the even quicker turn-around from possession to defending. Most fullbacks are half-decent midfielders. Eboué was therefore what coaches call a front-foot player - able to assess opportunities for a pass and threats to possession in a narrow 180 degree sector of the pitch which is in front of him, but when given a 360 watch his thinking, perception and execution got exposed. I started expressing concerns that he was no replacement for Lauren when he was a right back. I thought that one-dimensional players like this had died out in the 1970s. I suppose that's why I'm such a naughty boy.
Eboue was at his best when he played FB and had no defending to do? I'm not sure how to wrap my head around that statement but I'll do my best. I'll take it to mean when he was in the offensive half. Eboue did have irrational confidence going forward in his early days. He made many a threatening run when overlapping but the final result was sorely lacking. His crossing was not great at all, in fact, none of our FB's could deliver a decent cross consistently.

We bemoaned the efforts of Eboue, Sagna, and Clichy so many times on here in that aspect. You pull out this goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTSkIJQvwg as a sign of his ability to cross? You have to be kidding me, this was a wonder strike, not a great cross. Eboue makes an simple overlapping run and then he just floats one in there on a hope and a prayer. RVP then delivers a shot that only a very few could produce. Guess that famous memory isn't doing too well on this one.

As I said earlier, as strictly a defender, Eboue was average. A backup squad player in every sense of the word. Going forward in any meaningful way was not his strong suit at all.

Well, in fairness there was this one too...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK45UmKP0pA

1:40
I recall waking people up blocks away with my screaming and running around after Henry's goal went in.
One of my favorite goals of all time.
Sure, but how about that equalizer?
I remember RvP hurting himself on a big goal like that. The injury was not immediately apparent - showed up later and he missed a bunch of games. Was this the one?

And to give a general answer to your specific question, I've never seen an Arsenal goal I didn't love!
To answer JODB first, I don't remember who that goal scorer was...maybe some stinky, skunk striped vermin? But the little tap on by Henry was sublime.

To DSCH, it was either that goal or the one he scored against Sheffield (or Charlton...I can't remember the difference between the relegation fodder of years past).
Why don't you tell us how you really feel about that other guy?
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Why don't you tell us how you really feel about that other guy?

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