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Champions Leageu Playoff; Draw on August 9th
Topic Started: Aug 4 2013, 01:37 PM (895 Views)
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KamyFC
Aug 9 2013, 12:02 AM
East German Gooner
Aug 8 2013, 10:38 PM
KamyFC
Aug 8 2013, 09:06 PM
I just dont understand this

In our draw we might face any one of these teams
Real Sociedad, Pacos de Ferreira, PSV Eindhoven, Fenerbahce or Metalist Kharkiv in the two-legged tie.

Celtic can meet any one of Austria Vienna, Legia Warsaw, Maribor, Ludogorets Razgrad or Shakhter Karagandy.

Celtic's opponents seem looks easier as compared to ours!

I wonder why we are paired with the tougher bunch and why are Celtic in a separate section. Beats me.
Celtics won their league so they are in the champions pot. Arsenal are in the non champions route.
ah! Thanx for clarifying - Dream.

Stupid rule by UEFA. This could ensure big teams could crash out in the play off stage itself. And that would not be good for the profile of the group stages.
I mean UEFA would prefer having - PSV Eindhoven, Fenerbahce, Sociadad rather than Ludogorets Razgrad or Shakhter Karagandy in the group stage

They will realize that and change the rule next year B-)
Except that they changed it TO this setup a few years back to try and give the champions of lesser leagues a fairer shake rather than making the group stage a who's who of the big 4 leagues.
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rw_mlite2
Aug 9 2013, 02:00 AM
KamyFC
Aug 9 2013, 12:02 AM
East German Gooner
Aug 8 2013, 10:38 PM
KamyFC
Aug 8 2013, 09:06 PM
I just dont understand this

In our draw we might face any one of these teams
Real Sociedad, Pacos de Ferreira, PSV Eindhoven, Fenerbahce or Metalist Kharkiv in the two-legged tie.

Celtic can meet any one of Austria Vienna, Legia Warsaw, Maribor, Ludogorets Razgrad or Shakhter Karagandy.

Celtic's opponents seem looks easier as compared to ours!

I wonder why we are paired with the tougher bunch and why are Celtic in a separate section. Beats me.
Celtics won their league so they are in the champions pot. Arsenal are in the non champions route.
ah! Thanx for clarifying - Dream.

Stupid rule by UEFA. This could ensure big teams could crash out in the play off stage itself. And that would not be good for the profile of the group stages.
I mean UEFA would prefer having - PSV Eindhoven, Fenerbahce, Sociadad rather than Ludogorets Razgrad or Shakhter Karagandy in the group stage

They will realize that and change the rule next year B-)
Except that they changed it TO this setup a few years back to try and give the champions of lesser leagues a fairer shake rather than making the group stage a who's who of the big 4 leagues.
And quite right too. The competition needs to keep a semblance of its origin as the European Cup. There's nothing stupid about treating fourth and first place finishers differently in that context.
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And it's Fenerbahce. They wouldn't have been my first choice. Or second...or third. Oh well. Finish third in the league and you don't have to worry about it.
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Per https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/365774957650784257 :

* The participation of Fenerbahçe SK and FC Metalist Kharkiv in the competition is subject to pending disciplinary and CAS proceedings.
Edited by rw_mlite2, Aug 9 2013, 05:07 AM.
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I thought Fenerbache already got the boot from the CL?
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Apparently Fenerbache are appealing their 2 year ban to the CAS. They need to come up with a ruling soon cuz we play them on the 20th. I imagine if they lose thier appeal that Bestikas who finished 3rd would take that spot.
Edited by jays712, Aug 9 2013, 06:43 AM.
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jays712
Aug 9 2013, 06:42 AM
Apparently Fenerbache are appealing their 2 year ban to the CAS. They need to come up with a ruling soon cuz we play them on the 20th. I imagine if they lose thier appeal that Bestikas who finished 3rd would take that spot.
From what I saw on Twitter, they're allowed to play with the ruling coming after the tie. I have no idea what that means if they win and are subsequently banned. Maybe Salzburg (the team they beat in the last round) moves on?
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Hmmm...what I wrote doesn't make that much sense. Don't know why Salzburg would move on in place of us. I think the most likely option would be Besiktas, as you said, Jays.
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What makes no sense is why are they waiting until after they play us to rule on this?
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ArsenalgoonerinVA

Regardless of the ruling this is a very very tricky tie for Arsenal.. Istanbul is a hostile place to play away especially for the 1st leg.. to make matters worse on top of that Koscielney and Cazorla 2 of our better players are suspended. who is Wenger suppose to start now with BFG... Sagna? this is no walk over i'll be happy with a scoring draw in Turkey coming back to London.. but seriously wenger needs to buy some CB depth...
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