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Topic Started: Aug 6 2013, 04:07 AM (1,074 Views)
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santry_gooner
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Aug 6 2013, 03:11 PM
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Michu has a slightly better goal return for a similar number of minutes, but much fewer opportunities than Giroud. Michu looks like a slightly better player, but honestly Giroud isn't miles behind him.
I would ask the Hitman to explain why he thinks his style suits Arsenal better. Their movement and positioning is very similar. Giroud looks better in the air.
The only issue I would have is that Michu isn't a 30 million pound player.
I already did. Whilst you say movements & positioning are similar, its what you do in those positions that counts. Michu is far more comfortable on the ball, he is quicker of both mind & feet than Giroud & his silkier touch would bring Arsenals midfield into the game more Being slightly better can be, & is often the difference between winning & not winning games. Being slightly better and heading into your second season. The difference could be that Michu is a quick adapter, while Giroud doubles his goal tally at every club he plays for in his second season. I don't believe he will double his goal tally, but with the number of chances he got you would have to expect a higher return.
In any case my question was to the Hitman.
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santry_gooner
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Aug 6 2013, 03:24 PM
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http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/michu/mwverlaufgraph/spieler_70789.html
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Aug 6 2013, 03:37 PM
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One thing I'm 100% sure of is that we need a striker better than Michu if we have serious ambition to win the title.
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billabog5
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Aug 7 2013, 01:55 AM
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Michu has a slightly better goal return for a similar number of minutes, but much fewer opportunities than Giroud. Michu looks like a slightly better player, but honestly Giroud isn't miles behind him.
I would ask the Hitman to explain why he thinks his style suits Arsenal better. Their movement and positioning is very similar. Giroud looks better in the air.
The only issue I would have is that Michu isn't a 30 million pound player.
I already did. Whilst you say movements & positioning are similar, its what you do in those positions that counts. Michu is far more comfortable on the ball, he is quicker of both mind & feet than Giroud & his silkier touch would bring Arsenals midfield into the game more Being slightly better can be, & is often the difference between winning & not winning games.
Being slightly better and heading into your second season. The difference could be that Michu is a quick adapter, while Giroud doubles his goal tally at every club he plays for in his second season. I don't believe he will double his goal tally, but with the number of chances he got you would have to expect a higher return. In any case my question was to the Hitman. your question may have been addressed to hitman but as I had also said that I think Michu would be a better fit at Arsenal & seeing as you obviously didn't see how that conclusion could be reached, I thought I should explain it for you
What is your sample size for Giroud " doubling his goal tally in every second season at a club" because that is one desperate retort right there & if you don'y believe he will do that, why evcen post such garbage
Surely it must be a concern if he is missing that many chances
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WX_Hitman
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Aug 7 2013, 11:32 AM
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I am no soccer coach on tactics , or will know how to use terms like the false 9 or false 10 . I can only comment on what i see with my own eyes.
Michu , movement is smart. He is big and strong and got better vision to bring others into play. He can spring the offside trap better than FBH. He got a turn of pace to get a few steps in front of the defender. His finishing is calm cool and collected, unhurried. Compared to FBH.......... he panicks in front of goal . Makes a wrong decision , and I don't trust him with an open goal much less 1v 1 situation.
If it's a 1 v 1 situation . i know who I rather be on the end of it . Michu . FBH has a higher chance of cocking it all up. A video is worth a million words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_MQpR1GfSM
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dsch15
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Aug 7 2013, 11:45 AM
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I am no soccer coach on tactics , or will know how to use terms like the false 9 or false 10 . I can only comment on what i see with my own eyes. Michu , movement is smart. He is big and strong and got better vision to bring others into play. He can spring the offside trap better than FBH. He got a turn of pace to get a few steps in front of the defender. His finishing is calm cool and collected, unhurried. Compared to FBH.......... he panicks in front of goal . Makes a wrong decision , and I don't trust him with an open goal much less 1v 1 situation. If it's a 1 v 1 situation . i know who I rather be on the end of it . Michu . FBH has a higher chance of cocking it all up. A video is worth a million words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_MQpR1GfSM All a video proves is the power of selective editing. You could put one of these together for any front man in the league. And none of Giroud's misses was as bad as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8q0oPBK0s.
Those who would consider him only an incremental improvement over Giroud have it about right.
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rasjamaican
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Aug 7 2013, 11:54 AM
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Agree with Hitman here. Michu is a much better finisher and he is also a much cleverer player in and around the box. I would say the only thing Giroud has over the Spaniard is power and physique. However, although Michu is a bit quicker than Giroud, I also believe that both players lack that deadly pace that is needed to lead the Arsenal attack.
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Aug 7 2013, 12:22 PM
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Michu doesn't have Theo's place, but anticipation he has, that gives him a few step a front of the defender to take the shot. And when he takes the shot usually he is pretty deadly.
If we get Suarez good. If not get Michu . Having 2 FBH is better than 1.
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santry_gooner
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Aug 7 2013, 01:58 PM
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Michu has a slightly better goal return for a similar number of minutes, but much fewer opportunities than Giroud. Michu looks like a slightly better player, but honestly Giroud isn't miles behind him.
I would ask the Hitman to explain why he thinks his style suits Arsenal better. Their movement and positioning is very similar. Giroud looks better in the air.
The only issue I would have is that Michu isn't a 30 million pound player.
I already did. Whilst you say movements & positioning are similar, its what you do in those positions that counts. Michu is far more comfortable on the ball, he is quicker of both mind & feet than Giroud & his silkier touch would bring Arsenals midfield into the game more Being slightly better can be, & is often the difference between winning & not winning games.
Being slightly better and heading into your second season. The difference could be that Michu is a quick adapter, while Giroud doubles his goal tally at every club he plays for in his second season. I don't believe he will double his goal tally, but with the number of chances he got you would have to expect a higher return. In any case my question was to the Hitman.
your question may have been addressed to hitman but as I had also said that I think Michu would be a better fit at Arsenal & seeing as you obviously didn't see how that conclusion could be reached, I thought I should explain it for you What is your sample size for Giroud " doubling his goal tally in every second season at a club" because that is one desperate retort right there & if you don'y believe he will do that, why evcen post such garbage Surely it must be a concern if he is missing that many chances Hold up a second. I didn't "obviously not see how that conclusion could be reached". I am asking [Hitman] what he thinks makes Michu such a vast improvement in Giroud. I am saying Michu had a better maiden season, and certainly a better goal tally. But the gap between the two does not constitute a vast improvement in our playing staff. Now I am repeating myself.
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billabog5
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Aug 7 2013, 02:30 PM
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Michu has a slightly better goal return for a similar number of minutes, but much fewer opportunities than Giroud. Michu looks like a slightly better player, but honestly Giroud isn't miles behind him.
I would ask the Hitman to explain why he thinks his style suits Arsenal better. Their movement and positioning is very similar. Giroud looks better in the air.
The only issue I would have is that Michu isn't a 30 million pound player.
I already did. Whilst you say movements & positioning are similar, its what you do in those positions that counts. Michu is far more comfortable on the ball, he is quicker of both mind & feet than Giroud & his silkier touch would bring Arsenals midfield into the game more Being slightly better can be, & is often the difference between winning & not winning games.
Being slightly better and heading into your second season. The difference could be that Michu is a quick adapter, while Giroud doubles his goal tally at every club he plays for in his second season. I don't believe he will double his goal tally, but with the number of chances he got you would have to expect a higher return. In any case my question was to the Hitman.
your question may have been addressed to hitman but as I had also said that I think Michu would be a better fit at Arsenal & seeing as you obviously didn't see how that conclusion could be reached, I thought I should explain it for you What is your sample size for Giroud " doubling his goal tally in every second season at a club" because that is one desperate retort right there & if you don'y believe he will do that, why evcen post such garbage Surely it must be a concern if he is missing that many chances
Hold up a second. I didn't "obviously not see how that conclusion could be reached". I am asking [Hitman] what he thinks makes Michu such a vast improvement in Giroud. I am saying Michu had a better maiden season, and certainly a better goal tally. But the gap between the two does not constitute a vast improvement in our playing staff. Now I am repeating myself. & as I said [ sometimes I have to repeat myself], it doesn't need a quantum leap in ability to reap rewards Countless times on the old forum comparisons have been drawn between Utd & Arsenal players & often even I don't think there is that much difference in quality & yet Utd have been finishing 209 points ahead & winning trophies galore whilst Arsenal.......... you know the rest
Michu, even by your own assertion, is slightly better than Giroud, so just how poor do you think Giroud is that other strikers could make a huge difference whilst a slightly better omne wouldn't make a difference
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